Egyptian President asking government to step down - Off-Topic

#1 Edited by skywing (1152 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

President Mubarak just announced that he intends to ask tomorrow for the current Egyptian government to step down. Furthermore, he claims that he himself will remain in his position.

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Update: To anyone interested in keeping up with ongoing developments. Thanks Ryanwho.

#2 Posted by MysteriousBob (6201 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Right, so now he's just a flat out dictator.

What a dick.

Yeah, I don't really have much to contribute to this discussion.

#3 Edited by DaManGB (377 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap.

What I meant by this is that I'm in America and I don't care what Egypt is doing because they pose no threat to me. I probably should have removed the "I'm American" part, my bad.

Jeez, Giantbomb needs to step up it's sarcasm awareness.

#4 Edited by blueduck (964 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm a stupid American I don't give a crap. "

I fixed it for you!

#5 Posted by Daiphyer (1202 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Really? HA, Ha, ha, HA, Ha, ha.

What an asshole.

#6 Posted by Pessh (2406 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "

The idiocy and ignorance of some people never ceases to amaze me.

#7 Edited by MysteriousBob (6201 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "

The "I don't give a crap" was implied in the first half of your sentence.

#8 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Pessh said:

" @DaManGB said:
" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "
The idiocy and ignorance of some people never ceases to amaze me. "

If you're going to call others ignorant, at least understand what the word means. Because nothing he said fits that bill.

#9 Posted by DaManGB (377 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@blueduck said:

" @DaManGB said:
" Meh, I'm a stupid American I don't give a crap. "
I fixed it for you! "

Well I don't care I guess that makes me stupid. :/

#10 Posted by beej (1660 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Pinworm45: Well the argument could be made that given the nature of our global world+a belief in democracy/human rights only an ignorant person wouldn't give a crap about something like this.

#11 Posted by Daiphyer (1202 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "

Or in better words: "I'm American, there is no world besides the American border."

#12 Posted by Skald (4366 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Ah yes, the high road. Blaming the civil unrest on everyone except himself.

#13 Posted by Zimbo (874 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I think he might of missed the point of the protests. He is just going to elect a new government but retain all the power because, "Ultimately in Egypt, the power lies with the president,"

Get rid of him now before he turns into Arab Mugabe.

#14 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@beej said:

" @Pinworm45: Well the argument could be made that given the nature of our global world+a belief in democracy/human rights only an ignorant person wouldn't give a crap about something like this. "

Not really. Ignorance would mean he isn't aware of what's going on. He's clearly aware, he just also doesn't care.

The best you could do is maybe say he's ignorant to how this situation effects him, but that still doesn't work in the context of the post I quoted, and again, is still wrong, as he does know: he just doesn't care.

You can call him a dick if you'd like but it grinds my gears when people call others ignorant in a manner that the word is not suited for. I mean calling someone ignorant while being ignorant of what ignorant means? It's just too stupid to let pass.

#15 Posted by ch13696 (4582 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

So would this mean there is no more Government control? If that's the case, then why doesn't everyone just leave Egypt or just kill him?

#16 Posted by Fenrisulfr (127 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I always like hearing when a group of citizens ban together to stand against dictators. It's especially more satisfying when the government are showing signs that they're afraid, and dissolve. Too bad the person that the people are after hasn't gotten the hint.

#17 Posted by KaosAngel (13766 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

this dude for real?

#18 Posted by BraveToaster (12588 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "

Shit like this is the reason why so many people hate the US.

#19 Posted by KaosAngel (13766 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Could you imagine if Bush did that during 2007? People would flip shit.

"Oh you guys don't like the government? It's cool, let me stay and try to fix it."

#20 Posted by Animasta (12785 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

haha that's like the silliest thing I've ever heard, is this dude for real?

#21 Posted by IBurningStar (2003 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

He will tell them to step down, and they will respond like so.

#22 Posted by Rattle618 (1402 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

They should just fucking get him killed, Im sure it can be arranged...

#23 Edited by Matiaz_Tapia (233 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Reading the rest of the article, it doesn't actually sound as bad:

"The Egyptian president has dismissed his government, saying that he will replace it with a new one on Saturday.

"We will not backtrack on reforms. We will continue with new steps which will ensure the independence of the judiciary and its rulings, and more freedom for citizens," Mubarak said.

He said new steps will be taken "to contain unemployment, raise living standards, improve services and stand by the poor.""

#24 Posted by Aronman789 (2610 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Axxol said:

" @DaManGB said:
" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "
Shit like this is the reason why so many people hate the US. "

Sure there are these people around, but guess what world? You guys have these people too, some places even have more that us, so stop acting high and mighty.

Anyway on topic, dude's an ass.

#25 Posted by Famov (768 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@MysteriousBob said:

"@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "
The "I don't give a crap" was implied in the first half of your sentence. "

Your aforementioned lack of anything to contribute is implied by the whole of this sentence.

Anyhow, the fact that this guy has essentially been the only Egyptian leader after crazy man Sadat 'retired' pretty much says everything. He's part of an old political establishment and he doesn't have long left.

#26 Posted by skywing (1152 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Matiaz_Tapia said:

"
Reading the rest of the article, it doesn't actually sound as bad:

"The Egyptian president has dismissed his government, saying that he will replace it with a new one on Saturday.
"We will not backtrack on reforms. We will continue with new steps which will ensure the independence of the judiciary and its rulings, and more freedom for citizens," Mubarak said.
He said new steps will be taken "to contain unemployment, raise living standards, improve services and stand by the poor.""
"

Are you serious? I can't tell.
Whatever words he has to say on the matter are irreverent, any man who claims to have his hand on the pulse of their country alone is a dictator. One person cannot rule and adequetly represent the needs and desires of his people. The very idea of removing an entire government under the guise of, it's best, is absurd. I say remove the government and the president, start fresh and anew.

#27 Posted by BraveToaster (12588 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Aronman789 said:

" @Axxol said:
" @DaManGB said:
" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "
Shit like this is the reason why so many people hate the US. "
Sure there are these people around, but guess what world? You guys have these people too, some places even have more that us, so stop acting high and mighty.

You guys? I'm American too.

I'm not acting "high and mighty", simply making a statement.

#28 Posted by MysteriousBob (6201 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Famov said:

" @MysteriousBob said:

"@DaManGB said:

" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "
The "I don't give a crap" was implied in the first half of your sentence. "

Your aforementioned lack of anything to contribute is implied by the whole of this sentence..
"

I 'contributed' a link between his statement and the fact that hes American. From your reaction, it obviously made an impact. Shame.

#29 Edited by ryanwho (12083 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Could you children take your "fuck America" scapegoating to some other thread so the big boys can talk about serious issues? Thanks.
If you're curious in the minute to minute coverage without the bullshit pundits:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

#30 Posted by Aronman789 (2610 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Axxol: It wasn't directed at you, it was directed towards the annoying people that think all americans are dipshits, its extremely annoying, and I'm not even an american myself, but I've been living here for some years and have met my fair share of intellectuals.
Sorry if my post was confusing, I guess I have to work on my english, my posts seem to confuse people a bit now for some reason, must be getting rusty since I've been spending time with the non-english speaking part of the family.

#31 Posted by mordukai (7004 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@blueduck said:

" @DaManGB said:
" Meh, I'm a stupid American I don't give a crap. "
I fixed it for you! "

LMFAO! Good one.

#32 Posted by Dany (7877 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@ryanwho

Could you children take your "fuck America" scapegoating to some other thread so the big boys can talk about serious issues? Thanks.
If you're curious in the minute to minute coverage without the bullshit pundits:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

I'm on my phone so I can't watch that but from what I can gather, the president is making all of the wrongs move. What are the reactions?

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#33 Posted by Meteora (5783 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Silly dictator, silly Giantbomb users.

What else is new? =/

#34 Posted by Mikemcn (6791 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Mubarak is a real charmer, he's done so many good things for his country.

#35 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2112 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@ryanwho said:

" Could you children take your "fuck America" scapegoating to some other thread so the big boys can talk about serious issues? Thanks.
If you're curious in the minute to minute coverage without the bullshit pundits:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ "

Thank you. Seriously people should have just had their hate session go for like a minute, then move on to this important issue.

Still a shame it has come to this in Egypt, with the whole internet blackout and all. Also I agree that the presidential request for an entire resignation of the government besides himself is quite suss. Unfortunately I have not followed this story enough to get more of an opinion than one of disappointment of the Egyptian government, and worries for the citizens of Egypt.

#36 Posted by Hailinel (18144 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Axxol said:

" @Aronman789 said:
" @Axxol said:
" @DaManGB said:
" Meh, I'm American I don't give a crap. "
Shit like this is the reason why so many people hate the US. "
Sure there are these people around, but guess what world? You guys have these people too, some places even have more that us, so stop acting high and mighty.
You guys? I'm American too. I'm not acting "high and mighty", simply making a statement. "

Invade and help establish order = Americans are the bad guys.
Sit out the conflict and let the locals attempt to resolve things themselves = Americans are the bad guys.

What.

#37 Posted by captain_clayman (3164 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

this is fuckin lame for my friend that lives in egypt.

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#38 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8532 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Pinworm45 said:

" @beej said:
" @Pinworm45: Well the argument could be made that given the nature of our global world+a belief in democracy/human rights only an ignorant person wouldn't give a crap about something like this. "
Not really. Ignorance would mean he isn't aware of what's going on. He's clearly aware, he just also doesn't care. The best you could do is maybe say he's ignorant to how this situation effects him, but that still doesn't work in the context of the post I quoted, and again, is still wrong, as he does know: he just doesn't care. You can call him a dick if you'd like but it grinds my gears when people call others ignorant in a manner that the word is not suited for. I mean calling someone ignorant while being ignorant of what ignorant means? It's just too stupid to let pass. "

Actually you're utterly wrong duder. He is ignorant of how this affects him. It affects all of us. This political struggle in Egypt will likely to mean the border states will become involved, if not directly, but certainly more agitated. This in turn will likely incense some political manoeuvrings which directly target US influences in the region, let alone potential bloodshed. US services like Youtube and Flickr are being used to report the situation right now and historically when internal and interstate conflcts have happened the anti-US sentiment has risen in the region, with ME states often citing claims of "American Imperialism" if any US reporting or involvement can be shown, no matter how tenuous the connection. This in turn can directly affect the price of oil as it may give those who sell it to the US (and thus the world) another excuse to raise prices.

Nothing grinds my gears. However, you are acting like a smart person when you're actually being anything but.

#39 Posted by ryanwho (12083 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Dany said:

" @ryanwho
Could you children take your "fuck America" scapegoating to some other thread so the big boys can talk about serious issues? Thanks.
If you're curious in the minute to minute coverage without the bullshit pundits:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
I'm on my phone so I can't watch that but from what I can gather, the president is making all of the wrongs move. What are the reactions? "

The protesters want the president to step down and there's really nothing he can do now to change their minds. That seems to be how the average Egyptian feels. People got louder after he made the speech, they didn't celebrate. There's nothing new about a government that continues to have the same leader at its head.

#40 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18957 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

wow you guys can be fucking vicious when u talk politics

im scared of all you now !

#41 Posted by actionTACO (498 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

what eygpt needs right now is a tax break for the wealthy, which would create jobs

#42 Posted by EpicSteve (6125 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

He's asking an entire government to surrender their careers over the weekend? I applaud a political figure for getting shit done. However, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN EGYPT!? Who's decision was it to shut down the internet?

#43 Posted by Dany (7877 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Damn, not suprising. Hope the people get what they want

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#44 Posted by ryanwho (12083 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@actionTACO said:

" nothing to contribute, just stopping in to remind everyone i still hate america "

Noted.
@EpicSteve said:

" He's asking an entire government to surrender their careers over the weekend? I applaud a political figure for getting shit done. However, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN EGYPT!? Who's decision was it to shut down the internet? "

The president. Its kind of the perfect example of how out of touch he is, that he thought this would put a damper on the problem and the exact opposite happened.

#45 Posted by GunnBjorn (2907 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Impeachment Imminent.

#46 Edited by big_jon (5111 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

They shut down the internet for the whole country, that is pretty scary.

Because oppressing peoples freedom always makes things better...

#47 Posted by Fripplebubby (1027 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@actionTACO said:

" what eygpt needs right now is a tax break for the wealthy, which would create jobs "

Heh. I smiled a that.

On topic though, the Egyptian election was corrupted and heavily disputed (I understand), so more political outcry is no surprise. Personally, I think the Egyptian government has gone steadily downhill ever since the decision to stop building pyramids (that was popular with the slaves, I guess).

#48 Posted by StarFoxA (4923 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DaManGB: This affects American politics on a fairly large scale, since we have been putting about $1.2 billion into Mubarak's pocket for quite a while. This money isn't for the repression of free speech or anything like that, but rather to help the stability of the Middle East. Now, the implications of this are pretty massive though, because if this revolt is successful, it means that a new leader of Egypt would be decidedly anti-American.

#49 Edited by Grilledcheez (3732 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

He already did ask them to do so, what he fails to realize is they want him gone too

Edit: Actually he does realize, but you know how head political figures are

#50 Posted by DaManGB (377 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@StarFoxA: Thank you for not flaming me and actually giving me some insight on the situation. I didn't mean for my comment to cause such a stir. Your right though the last thing we need is another Middle Eastern country hating us.