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#1 Edited by Redsox44 (482 posts) -

    

    I know alot of people here don't like rap. But this guy just doesn't get enough respect compared to lil wayne and other people that aren't even close to as good.   
   
These two show that he has amazing talent. Especially since the first is just him freestyling.  
 
Though i might sound like im making a ridiculous claim in the title don't take it seriously i just said it to show my respect for him.
#2 Posted by JB16 (745 posts) -

Eminem is definitely a monster, he's easily one of the best rappers of all time.

#3 Posted by Bam_D_Leprechaun (795 posts) -

lol rap

#4 Posted by Yummylee (21470 posts) -

Meh. Still don't like much of his music.

#5 Edited by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@Andrela said:

" Too bad he's left all this behind him. His last album was so disappointing. This is the kind of stuff I love though. "

Edit: Yeah dude, his last album was pretty "meh".  I only liked two tracks off of it.   I was afraid he had fallen off, but these two songs prove he has not. 

He's extremely talented, and definitely one of my favorite rappers of all time.  I was astounded when I listened to Despicable on the aftermathmusic.com site when I saw it was a freestyle, that was pretty amazing.
#6 Posted by Andrela (621 posts) -

Too bad he's left all this behind him. His last album was so disappointing. This is the kind of stuff I love though.

#7 Posted by eclipsesis (1242 posts) -

Yeah i agree at least he can take the time to come with lyrics with meaning and relevance, other than the standard of rap Money, Drugs, Women violence. 

#8 Posted by CornontheCobbe (2645 posts) -

He's talented, but don't kid yourself.
 

We all know Styles P. is the best rapper alive.

#9 Posted by labam89 (311 posts) -

I enjoy his music, although whether hes the best rapper alive is subjective, and I've not listened to enough rap music to make that assertion.

#10 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
"  That freestyle was pretty beastly - angrier, more energy closer to his older stuff. After the Mathers LP he kinda lost it - too many slow songs, too much self production, probably too many drugs. If he can keep up this kinda stuff I could go back to listening too him (and I don't mean to sound like a dick but let's just skip the songs about your kid ok? No one wants to hear it).   Not Afraid - this is exactly the kind of the song that's the problem - this dude hasn't even been doing anything lately and he's doing a fucking persecution song - I don't wanna hear him sing or act like he's on some higher level, I liked his music cause he'd rap about crazy shit and it was funny. He took his personal stories and added a lot of humorous and over the top stuff to it - I just don't care to hear him all serious and sullen. "
I gotta disagree, I really like those songs.  I really like both types you mentioned.
#11 Posted by artofwar420 (6276 posts) -

He's alright, I kinda wish he'd go back to his Slim Shady persona.

#12 Posted by JB16 (745 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
"  That freestyle was pretty beastly - angrier, more energy closer to his older stuff. After the Mathers LP he kinda lost it - too many slow songs, too much self production, probably too many drugs. If he can keep up this kinda stuff I could go back to listening too him (and I don't mean to sound like a dick but let's just skip the songs about your kid ok? No one wants to hear it).   Not Afraid - this is exactly the kind of the song that's the problem - this dude hasn't even been doing anything lately and he's doing a fucking persecution song - I don't wanna hear him sing or act like he's on some higher level, I liked his music cause he'd rap about crazy shit and it was funny. He took his personal stories and added a lot of humorous and over the top stuff to it - I just don't care to hear him all serious and sullen. "
I think his best songs are when he's serious rather than when he's satiracally funny. I mean he's no philosipher or anything but he definitely does a good job at getting his views acroos ehen it comes to serious issues.
#13 Posted by McSmunions (582 posts) -

i wouldn't say the best rapper alive, but he's definitely sick. i actually went back and picked up the slim shady lp not too long ago and man what an awesome album. 
 
 

#14 Posted by nanikore (2740 posts) -

As long as Ice Cube is still alive, no.

#15 Posted by Patters666 (12 posts) -

Is Chuck D dead?

#16 Posted by sopranosfan (1935 posts) -

Tupac is the greatest rapper alive.

#17 Posted by Redsox44 (482 posts) -
@xobballox said:
" @Andrela said:

" Too bad he's left all this behind him. His last album was so disappointing. This is the kind of stuff I love though. "

Edit: Yeah dude, his last album was pretty "meh".  I only liked two tracks off of it.  
Yea his last cd wasn't that great but i loved Beautiful. And it's funny cuz he admits himself that Relapse was pretty "meh" and he says he's not going back to that in-Not Afraid.
#18 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@Redsox44: Yep, it's nice to see a "celebrity" able to see fault in their own work.   
 
@SteamPunkJin said:
" @xobballox said: I think that there are a few decent ones - didn't meant to outright declare all of them terrible. Whatever the last CD I got of his, I think Encore? It was just too much, and that shitty faux-protest song about voting, it felt forced. I think he just reach that point where everyone around him just said 'Yea yea, that'll be cool' and no one told him no.   Just looked on Wiki and it seems like I missed Relapse and Recovery - so really I've got no idea what his more recent stuff sounds like. Encore was the one that lost me so if they're like that I doubt I'd be interested. "
Relapse wasn't very good other than Deja Vu and Beautiful if you ask me, and Recovery isn't out yet, Not Afraid is a teaser song (I guess you could call it that) that will be on Recovery as far as I know.  Despicable might be on there too (it definitely should be, it's great.)
#19 Posted by Skytylz (4031 posts) -

He's probably my favorite.

#20 Posted by JB16 (745 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
" @nanikore said:
" As long as Ice Cube is still alive, no. "

 R.I.P Ice Cube.
"

LOLOL oh my god I'm dieing
#21 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
" @nanikore said:
" As long as Ice Cube is still alive, no. "

 R.I.P Ice Cube.
"
Bahahaha, that's pretty good :P  He did have some pretty alright songs on his '08 album though.
#22 Posted by zombie2011 (4972 posts) -

Is voice is so fucking annoying.

#23 Posted by TripMasterMunky (2402 posts) -

Redman is.
 
And that Ice Cube photo is pretty funny lol.
 
But yeah Eminem is pretty overrated imo.

#24 Posted by Meteora (5787 posts) -

He's probably one of the best mainstream rappers, but I can't really comment much on rapping or music in general. I like what I like, I don't care if its shit or not.

#25 Posted by Joeybagad0nutz (1438 posts) -

He is definitly one of my favorite rappers. Biggie is higher than him in my book because I grew up with biggie.
#26 Posted by TripMasterMunky (2402 posts) -
@Bam_D_Leprechaun said:
" lol rap "
lol rock
#27 Posted by Redsox44 (482 posts) -

From 1:25 to the end of Despicable is great. It's okay if he's not the best rapper alive but he destroys the shit out of other rappers that have even more popularity than him. On the track Forever he outshines Drake, Lil Wayne. and Kanye West. Also on Airplanes part 2 wit B.o.B he adds a layer to that song that makes it better. And right here wit Despicable he takes Drakes beat and shows him up.

#28 Posted by jkz (4008 posts) -

He's the best mainstream rapper, but I still contend that the best rapper(s) currently producing music are Aesop Rock or JMT (though they're on the decline, not a huge AOTP fan). It's all an opinion, but KIH/SIH was great, as was None Shall Pass.

#29 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -

definitely agree. he is lightyears better than weezy

#30 Posted by Synthballs (2193 posts) -

Eminem is pretty high up there in my list of favourite rappers. It's a pretty small list though cause I don't listen to a lot of rap. 
 
I listened to Relapse and thought it was horrible. I pretty much don't like much (anything) from Encore forwards.  
 
Although, you guys here Stan live with Elton John? That shit was dope.
#31 Posted by Bruce (5264 posts) -

Eminem's new stuff is only good rap relative to what's around him. He fell off SO MUCH since the Marshall Mathers LP (Eminem Show was the beginning of this) that whatever he is now is no longer relevant; just as the title, "Best Rapper Alive," is meaningless.

#32 Posted by kishan6 (1914 posts) -

dude his last album was still rpetty good 
it wasnt quite the same but it had some pretty awesome songs on it

#33 Posted by TheHBK (5471 posts) -

For all you bitches saying shit about rap, me and Jeff got one thing to say. 
 
EAT A DICK. 
 
Anyway, Eminem is pretty damn sick and today, I don't know who is better with lyrics than he is.  Lil Wayne and pieces of shit like him and Jay Z cant hold a candle to Eminem.  Tupac is the other that comes to mind with just how good they were with words.

#34 Posted by ProfessorEss (7308 posts) -
@TripMasterMunky said:
" Redman is.
Hells yeah he is.

#35 Posted by MrMoonlight (9 posts) -

I like Enminem and all, but best rapper? Biggie's already got that spot covered

#36 Posted by Cube (4366 posts) -

Best Mainstream Rapper***

#37 Edited by natural_deadhead (272 posts) -

 
Rap is awful.  
It's just a bunch of dudes yappin about their dick's, bitches, money, cars, guns, and platinum teeth.

#38 Posted by Redsox44 (482 posts) -
@Cube:
Fine I'll settle for that. 
#39 Posted by jakob187 (21662 posts) -

I LOL'D! 
 
Seriously, Eminem hasn't been good since Marshall Mathers LP.  This is not only my opinion, but it's also a factual statement in and of its own right. 
 
And with that said, I'm just going to leave this here: 
 
  

   
...and maybe I should also point out how well his music mixes with other styles, like this: 
 
  
   
...and I don't think I need to link a video of The Grey Album's material. 
 
As it stands, Jay-Z has transcended what rap and hip-hop has been since it was born:  a battle for who the best M.C. is.  Frankly, no one has still touched Jay-Z's quality.
#40 Posted by Kombat (2205 posts) -

You can be as good at taking a dump as you want.  It's still shit.

#41 Posted by RobotHamster (4171 posts) -

He's ok but not the best.

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#42 Posted by emkeighcameron (1876 posts) -
@sopranosfan said:
" Tupac is the greatest rapper alive. "
I see what you did there
#43 Posted by i69edUrGpa (586 posts) -

Eminem and Ice Cube are the two best rappers alive, even if Ice Cube is in family movies and stuff, it doesn't change the way he raps

#44 Posted by Redsox44 (482 posts) -

Does anyone else here like B.o.B?

#45 Posted by McSmunions (582 posts) -

  rap is shit? i think ghostface has something to say...
 

#46 Posted by TripMasterMunky (2402 posts) -

Some good -ish people posting in here. I like rap that's hip-hop. Most rap now is too much like techno.

#47 Posted by JonathanMoore (1858 posts) -

Wagwan, Eminem's best lyrical work is Infinite, so it's been a long time, and he has never surpassed that song. Although man, when he was dope, he was fucking dope.

#48 Posted by Blair (2502 posts) -

You're wrong.  There are about ten living rappers better than Eminem.

#49 Posted by GoldenExplosion (86 posts) -

Eminem is definitely one of the best rappers of this age and any. I still enjoy a little Jay-Z and Wale, even Lil Wayne on occasion, or T.I.
 
But Eminem's lyrics have power and meaning, they tell a story that no one else has been able to for quite some time, and he's going in the books as one of the greatest of all time.

#50 Posted by ShadowKing7 (753 posts) -

Talking about the best rapper alive is usually kinda messy since it's all subjective.  Anyway, Eminem can definitely still run circles lyrically around most of the mainstream rappers out now, though Encore and Relapse aren't the same quality as earlier stuff.  Even then, those two CDs still have some decent songs in them. 
 
As far as other rappers, 2Pac is by and far my favorite, and Ice Cube still knows how to spit some lyrics.