#1 Posted by BirthWild (257 posts) -

I don't know whats up with that book.

I remember kid got scratched across the face and Bean is a cool kid.

that's all. I don't remember if I even finished it.

anybody else not know the twists and turns and ending of this well known book?

#2 Edited by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

I know nothing about it. There is a kid named ender and I think he has a jet pack? It in space, right?

#3 Edited by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

I know nothing about it. There is a kid named Ender and I think he has a jet pack? It in space, right?

#4 Edited by DarkShaper (1322 posts) -

Ender was the name of the sled.

But seriously, I haven't read that book in about 10 years and I remember most of the plot which is kind of strange since I normaly have a really hard time recalling the plot of books.

#5 Edited by BeachThunder (11728 posts) -

I don't; really, I wish people would not be so casual about spoiling all sorts of things =\

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#6 Posted by BeachThunder (11728 posts) -

I don't; really, I wish people would not be so casual about spoiling all sorts of things =\

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#7 Edited by Bocam (3683 posts) -

Does the big plot twist have something to due with the fact that the game they're playing is actually preparing them to fight a war?

#8 Edited by BlatantNinja23 (930 posts) -

@bocam: close, but it's actually that the game, or simulation they thought they were going through was actually the real deal. It wasn't fake, the war is actually going on and they they were sending real people out to die. They felt that Ender would make better tactical decisions if he thought it was just a simulation. I think there was also something about him not wanting to go to war at all, so that might have also had something to do with why they tricked him.

#10 Posted by Apparatus_Unearth (3112 posts) -

I kind of want to read it.

#11 Edited by LTSmash (604 posts) -

Another element of the twist is that:

In addition to sacrificing many of his own forces, Ender essentially committed genocide, wiping out the entire enemy population.

As twists go, I remember it being pretty great. It kind of makes you put the book down for a minute.

#12 Posted by Dethfish (3631 posts) -

I read it for the first time just a few months ago. Before that I had never heard anything relating to the story in that book.

#13 Edited by HerbieBug (4212 posts) -

I managed to go into this one fresh and spoiler free about ten years ago.Really enjoyed it.

#14 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4585 posts) -

Why is Ender's Game really popular all of a sudden? I read it as a kid waay back when, didn't know anyone else who'd read it, and now all of a sudden everyone's talking about it like it's the best thing since sliced bread. I thought it was a great book, sure, but the sudden shift into hype mode is a little weird.

#15 Posted by Skytylz (4031 posts) -

Why is Ender's Game really popular all of a sudden? I read it as a kid waay back when, didn't know anyone else who'd read it, and now all of a sudden everyone's talking about it like it's the best thing since sliced bread. I thought it was a great book, sure, but the sudden shift into hype mode is a little weird.

They're making a movie. It's suppose to come out this year or next year I think. I really don't think it's going to translate very well to the big screen unfortunately.

#16 Posted by Jimi (1126 posts) -

For the love of god anybody who is tempted by the spoilers do not read them. The twist pretty much makes that book what it is, not saying it would be bad without it but you should really try as hard as you can to go in blind.

#17 Posted by Railer (101 posts) -

If you haven't read the book yet and are planning to you should really try to avoid spoilers. When I first read the book it was quite a revalation and like Jimi said, It's a big part of what makes the book what it is.

#18 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4585 posts) -
@skytylz said:

@markwahlberg

said:

Why is Ender's Game really popular all of a sudden? I read it as a kid waay back when, didn't know anyone else who'd read it, and now all of a sudden everyone's talking about it like it's the best thing since sliced bread. I thought it was a great book, sure, but the sudden shift into hype mode is a little weird.

They're making a movie. It's suppose to come out this year or next year I think. I really don't think it's going to translate very well to the big screen unfortunately.

... I mean, whenever I think a movie is guaranteed to turn out terrible, I remember how everyone said that about the first Pirates of the Caribbean. But yeah, don't see that going well at all.

#19 Posted by Ducksworth (659 posts) -

I know nothing about it, but all this recent talk has me interested.

#20 Posted by BisonHero (6256 posts) -
@ltsmash said:

Another element of the twist is that:

In addition to sacrificing many of his own forces, Ender essentially committed genocide, wiping out the entire enemy population.

As twists go, I remember it being pretty great. It kind of makes you put the book down for a minute.

Ironically, it seems like Card wasn't very interested in writing books like Ender's Game. My understanding is that he wrote the original Ender's Game short story in some sci-fi magazine in the late 70s, I think. Years later, he reworked it into a full novel, but apparently the entire purpose of doing so was because he wanted to write the sequels to Ender's Game, but first he needed to establish the origin of Ender as a character, and how that twist came to happen and how it affected him emotionally, philosophically, etc.

Ironically, even though he wrote Ender's Game to facilitate all the sequels, Ender's Game is far more popular and frankly a better book than everything that comes after. I think the sequels are kind of self-indulgent exercises in fictional space politics, and philosophical and religious themes that are handled in really weird ways. Xenocide and Children of the Mind are especially bad; Speaker for the Dead is readable, but at least 50% of it is this weird family drama revolving around two generations of this random Brazilian family, which comes as a surprise to most people after they read Ender's Game, which is primarily about 7-12-year-olds being badass motherfuckers on a space station.

#21 Posted by Animasta (14651 posts) -
@jimi said:

For the love of god anybody who is tempted by the spoilers do not read them. The twist pretty much makes that book what it is, not saying it would be bad without it but you should really try as hard as you can to go in blind.

actually you shouldn't go in at all considering orson scott card is a terrible human being

#22 Edited by HerbieBug (4212 posts) -
@animasta said:

@jimi

said:

For the love of god anybody who is tempted by the spoilers do not read them. The twist pretty much makes that book what it is, not saying it would be bad without it but you should really try as hard as you can to go in blind.

actually you shouldn't go in at all considering orson scott card is a terrible human being

Those who avoid any form of art for this purpose do themselves a great disservice.