#1 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5797 posts) -

The other day I was looking for something to read, and I found my dad's copy of Rolling Stone in the living room so I started looking through some of the articles. One of them in particular, regarding hazing in college stood out. (the article can be found here). 
 
Now, this isn't the first time I've heard about some of crazy things frats do, but some of the things in that article are really fucked up. It's difficult to believe that anyone could actually do such crazy and disgusting things and actually enjoy it too. Here are some of my personal favorite quotes from that article, for those of you that don't feel like reading the whole thing: 

  • " I was a member of a fraternity that asked pledges, in order to become a brother, to: swim in a kiddie pool of vomit, urine, fecal matter, semen and rotten food products"
  • " fraternity reportedly beat their pledges; another was said to place them in dog crates while the brothers vomited on them."
  • " One student tells me that during his pledge term, the brothers in his house set up a tarp in the fraternity basement, covered it in vomit, and made the pledges do a "slip and slide." He loved it. "Everyone peed on it and threw in their chaw," he says. "I thought it was great. I did it 10 times. But I was getting kind of cut up, so the pledge trainer told me I really should stop so I wouldn't get too many infections."
Honestly, to me it sounds like some of those kids were just fucking with the reporter, but obviously I can't know for sure. The reason why I made this thread is because I want to know if any GB'ers have heard rumors about these kinds of things happening in their colleges or have actually participated in such things themselves. I haven't heard of anything like that happening at my school but I don't live on campus and I'm not the most sociable person to begin with.
#2 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

Yeah, I doubt anyone would to this willingly, and enjoy it? I call bullshit.

#3 Posted by alternate (2679 posts) -

Used to happen. Most of the serious stuff got shut down. There were a couple of incidents that cause a change in policy. I think one was an accidental death and one was when a prostitute brought charges of gang rape. I can't remember enough details to google the actual cases.

#4 Posted by ShadowSkill11 (1783 posts) -

With the number of schools with zero tolerance policies on hazing I'm pretty sure that's bullshit or they are interviewing people from the '80's. All it takes is one failed pledge to get half the frat thrown out of school.

#5 Posted by Spoonman671 (4527 posts) -

Did you just out your dad as a Rolling Stone reader?  Not cool.

#6 Posted by S0ndor (2715 posts) -

Gross, but not as retarded or outright dangerous as other forms of hazing. For example, here in The Netherlands we had a pledge die after frat boys forced him to drink several litres of milk. After that they switched to water the next year. Again, one of the pledges died. I'm sure there are more extreme examples out there.

That being said, these are certainly the most disgusting initiations I've ever heard of.

#7 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4674 posts) -

Gross, why would anyone willing do that. I would not want to be part of a group that wanted me to go through that to join.

#8 Edited by Mesoian (1572 posts) -

It all still happens. The only reason why people are hearing about it in spades now is because they're stories being told almost decades after the event originally happened. Fraternities and Sororities are constantly put on probation for hazing violations across the country, but very few actual instances can be reported on because the people involved almost never report the act. The acts, while hienious, are seen as initiation rights. If you complete the act, you're in, and then you're under this veil of "protection" and "camaraderie" from the rest of the frat. There'd be no reason to report it, you've already done what you need to in order to be "one of the guys".

That being said, from a purely fiscal and social angle, I don't understand why fraternities or sororities exist anymore. They seem like organizations created solely for the purpose of acting as a comprehensive protection plan for kids in stupid situations. Beyond normal networking, their use in the real world is paltry at best and they certain don't allow you to get in doors that would otherwise be closed to you. They just seem like a massive waste of time unless you know you will actively be behaving in a way befitting of a major institution.

@S0ndor said:

Gross, but not as retarded or outright dangerous as other forms of hazing. For example, here in The Netherlands we had a pledge die after frat boys forced him to drink several litres of milk. After that they switched to water the next year. Again, one of the pledges died. I'm sure there are more extreme examples out there.

That being said, these are certainly the most disgusting initiations I've ever heard of.

This happens in the states quite often as well. At the sister school to where I went to college, there were quite a few cases of people dying due to alcohol poisoning from having cheap beers with low alcohol content funnelled into pledges bodies. The idea was that it was it's less alcoholic, so it's okay. They had never heard of water poisoning before.

Of course, some radio show did that as well, seeing how much water people could drink in an hour and the prize was a Wii back when they were still in short supply. The woman who won ended up dying shortly after. It's not really about frats or pledges as it is putting stupid / impressionable people in bad situations with no one to tell them to stop or slow down.

#9 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5797 posts) -
@ShadowSkill11 said:

With the number of schools with zero tolerance policies on hazing I'm pretty sure that's bullshit or they are interviewing people from the '80's. All it takes is one failed pledge to get half the frat thrown out of school.

Well like I said it sounds implausible but you never know with some people.
#10 Posted by BaneFireLord (2908 posts) -

And that, ladies and gentleman, is why I specifically applied to a college without frats.

#11 Posted by innacces14 (735 posts) -

I like how my friend puts it; "Frats/sororities are just clubs used by tree-stumps to justify paying to have friends. You're always spending on something; beer, gas money for road trips you won't even remember as a result of beer being in the process, but pride most of all. Who the hell pays to have friends?"

#12 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

Dirty bastards.

#13 Posted by artgarcrunkle (970 posts) -

I played Haze once and my experience felt similar.

#14 Posted by crusader8463 (14411 posts) -

Any group of people that require you to hurt and degrade yourself to become a part of them is a group of scum not worth being in.

#15 Posted by SlasherMan (1725 posts) -

@Mesoian said:

Of course, some radio show did that as well, seeing how much water people could drink in an hour and the prize was a Wii back when they were still in short supply. The woman who won ended up dying shortly after.

Wasn't that the same radio show where a nurse actually called in to warn them about what they were doing and the host just ridiculed her?

#16 Posted by Yummylee (21208 posts) -

So hazing is another term for vomit-fetish?

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#17 Posted by Example1013 (4833 posts) -

One camping trip we sent a few of the new guys out to get a left-handed smokeshifter from another group, since we didn't have one. The funniest part was, a lot of the other groups actually played along and forwarded them to the next site.

#18 Edited by stryker1121 (1326 posts) -
#19 Posted by LastNinja (281 posts) -

You should check out that Todd Phillips directed documentary Frat House

#20 Posted by Schromium (22 posts) -

@TheDudeOfGaming said:

Yeah, I doubt anyone would to this willingly, and enjoy it? I call bullshit.

Some people are disgusting.

#21 Posted by Hizang (8534 posts) -

I've seen a few videos on a certain homosexual porn site that have a few of these videos..

#22 Edited by Flawed_System (388 posts) -

Not sure if you want to be telling people about that...^

Sounds messed up. No clue if my college has fraternities. I just go there, go to class, and leave as soon as possible.

#23 Posted by MikkaQ (10263 posts) -

I don't know why anyone would willingly subject themselves to this, there are better ways of making friends then by being that gross guy who will do anything for a little attention. Those people aren't really going to respect you anyway, if that's how your relationship gets initialized. Frats are a pretty stupid concept.

#24 Posted by CookieMonster (2414 posts) -

At my uni for the rugby team initiation, they make newbies eat a live goldfish. The idea is they feel it moving around in their stomach for a bit, then they vomit profusely for a while, which isn't really that funny.

Thats my two cents. Seems like most of these pledge/initiations always involve vomit in some way.

#25 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

@CookieMonster: ....Your uni rugby team sounds messed up.

#26 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

@artgarcrunkle said:

I played Haze once and my experience felt similar.

boom

#27 Posted by Demoskinos (14520 posts) -
@rebgav Hahaha that was my immediate thought when I saw this.
#28 Edited by Wrighteous86 (3719 posts) -

I was in a frat. Aside from being blindfolded in one or two initiation thingys for a short period of time to add "mystery" to the preceedings, there was no hazing at all in my fraternity. I know that plenty of others (including ones on my campus) did, though. Nothing like what you wrote about though. Mostly just "clean up after this party" or "do this weird 'improv anywhere' type thing on campus at night". I wouldn't stand for that sick shit you mentioned though.

None of the sports teams I was on (baseball, basketball, football) had any hazing whatsoever. The closest thing was that bullshit where a coach makes a whole team run because one person fucked up, but the players never took it out on that guy later.

#29 Posted by Questionable (619 posts) -

For a while here in the Netherlands the army saw a trend of a hazing ritual if that's what you want to call it, where people would hit iron nails in each others bare chests (with the fist)