#1 Edited by Krullban (1036 posts) -

The new Xbox TV quick look was driving me nuts. Do all Californians pronounce channel like Jeff? He kept saying "Chennel" like Kennel but with a Ch.

#2 Posted by TyCobb (1972 posts) -

He was saying with a soft CH, but yes, it did sound like Chennel. I have never heard anyone pronounce it like that I am from California and formerly the Bay Area.

#3 Edited by DemiGodRaven (270 posts) -

We adapt our accent specifically to get on other people's nerves.

also; channel on this end, not chennel.

#4 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4798 posts) -

Probably. Regional accents are funny that way.

Example: I grew up in Toronto. Having grown up in Toronto surrounded by native Toronto people, I pronounce Toronto as "Cha-ron-no". That's how most people said the city's name. You got the occasional person who insisted on "tor-on-to" but those were assholes who needed to be shunned from society. Didn't mind it from visitors or recent immigrants, but a person who has lived in the city for a period of time and still refers to it as "tor-on-to"? Massive douchebag.

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#5 Posted by crithon (3192 posts) -

I've been living in the bay area for 3 months, I came from Jersey, so I think no. I haven't noticed a change in accents, jeff pronounces it same as I do.

#6 Posted by TruthTellah (9029 posts) -

Some Californians pronounce it "chan-ell".

The good ones.

#7 Posted by golguin (3923 posts) -

It must be a Northern California thing. Everyone I know (I live in Southern California) says it like a normal person.

#8 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@tycobb said:

He was saying with a soft CH, but yes, it did sound like Chennel.

You mean SH?

#9 Posted by TyCobb (1972 posts) -

@video_game_king: I guess a normal CH then? It wasn't a K sound and it wasn't SH. It sounded like Chen-nel.

#10 Edited by Jams (2960 posts) -

God damn it. I didn't even notice it the first time. Now I can't stop hearing it. He really is saying chennel. I'm born and raised in California and I only ever heard and called it channel (Or I guess the way @truthtellah said it "Chan-ell"). Maybe that comes out sometimes sounding like chennel?

#11 Edited by BIGJEFFREY (5020 posts) -

hello a Californian here, II give it a little bit of cshh in the beginning but i

#12 Posted by PandaBear (1371 posts) -

Shan-ell

#13 Edited by development (2315 posts) -

Did he? Didn't even notice it. The proper way is "Chan (Norman Chan)" - "Ull (Full)."

#14 Posted by Captain_Felafel (1573 posts) -

@golguin said:

It must be a Northern California thing. Everyone I know (I live in Southern California) says it like a normal person.

Southern Californian here, can confirm.

#15 Posted by Chtasm (449 posts) -

Bay Area-ian here:

Jackie Channel

#16 Posted by insane_shadowblade85 (1453 posts) -

I'm glad someone else brought this up, I've noticed this for years but didn't want to say anything.

#17 Posted by Blackout62 (1340 posts) -

@golguin said:

It must be a Northern California thing. Everyone I know (I live in Southern California) says it like a normal person.

Southern Californian here, can confirm.

Northern Californian here, can confirm Jeff Gerstmann as outlier.

#18 Edited by DeadpanCakes (891 posts) -

Live in Southern California, like, right next to the Californian/Mexican border and we say it like normal human beings

(Chan Ell)

#19 Posted by certmcgurt (26 posts) -

Grew up about 20 mins from Petaluma, never heard anyone pronounce channel like Jeff did.

#20 Posted by Hamst3r (4482 posts) -

Shovel. As in Check out my Youtube Shovel. I'm from the center of the Earth, so my pronuncidation is surely the most corvette of everyperson.

#21 Posted by andrew2696 (314 posts) -

@oldirtybearon: I didn't notice the Toronto thing until I watched Argo. I'm not that conscious of my accent.

Fun Fact, in the non fiction account of Argo, it wasn't Toronto they had to learn it was Scarborough.Or some other less famous city.

#22 Posted by Hunter5024 (5669 posts) -

We adapt our accent specifically to get on other people's nerves.

This explains so much.

#23 Posted by razzdrazz (65 posts) -

@krullban: As a lifelong Californian, I've always said "chan-ull."

#24 Posted by StarvingGamer (8229 posts) -

I'm from California, and, now that I've read this thread and said the word aloud to myself a hundred times, I have no fucking clue. I probably do say it somewhat closer to "kennel" when I'm speaking casually. I tend to speak super fast and do not have time to properly form vowels.

#25 Posted by ArtisanBreads (3833 posts) -

It's not a California thing.

#26 Posted by kcin (127 posts) -

I am from the Bay Area and have lived in southern California for the last eight years. Everyone says "channel" like a normal person ("chann-uhl" or "chann-ill"). He does too, he's just saying it quickly.

There is an awful lot of focus on how the staff says things here. Imagine if you could do this with your friends: defer to a group of thousands of others who also know that friend, and deconstruct their cadence, timbre, rhythm, and vocabulary over the course of days, months, years, without their knowledge, consent, or say. Just reduce them to little Lego bits, where each piece is a unit of their language. This one is the way Jeff says "chennel". This one is the way he says "theoretically". This one is the way he says "rotten". This one is the questioning lift he applies at the end of a response. This one is the way he raises his eyebrows. Then, once you have completely exposed all of his speech nuances like an exploded diagram through the assistance of the collective Giant Bomb unconscious, you could watch as he forms a response to the question, "what do you think of the Xbox One television interface?" and, much like Neo in The Matrix, see the beautiful code of the words as they leave his lips in apparent slow motion. "I know now. I can see," you would say in awe, the intricacies of every syllable singing - screaming - to you in vivid colorblind-friendly color and clarity. Calmly, and with utter certainty, you turn your head away from his face. "No? It's pretty rotten," you intone, and, turning back, you gaze upon his mouth as it returns exactly those words. You have done it. You have assimilated with the language centers of the Giant Bomb staff.

But to what end? Your social skills, once liquid and adaptable, have become the calculating machinations of a computer. You are no longer a human, engaging and articulating uniquely depending on the circumstance; you now stand outside the warmth of human interconnectivity, in the cold vacuum removed from that world, looking in and examining the beings who were once your peers as a scientist examines a Petri dish. You find that with the knowledge you sought regarding why Jeff says "channel" the way he does comes loneliness unparalleled. It's alright, though. You have your knowledge. And if you can learn the speech patterns of an individual you observed but never met, imagine what you can learn through first-hand experience? You turn away from your monitor, from Jeff's face as he finishes speaking the words you knew before he knew them himself, and you gaze out your window, to the stars. Yes, the stars...That is where I will go. Stepping up and away from your computer, you walk to your window and open it up. Your self-defenestration sends you skyward, and your robot feet shutter and shift into thrusters, propelling you into the stratosphere. You think about looking down, but don't. There is nothing more for you there. But up there? Worlds of possibilities.

#27 Edited by pekoe212 (448 posts) -

I'm not even from California, but after saying it to myself a few times now I can't even tell which way I'm pronouncing it. What else am I possibly saying wrong? This door's never gonna close now. THANKS.

#28 Posted by _Zombie_ (1462 posts) -

The only weird thing about it to me is the e sound instead of an a sound. Like, most people I know pronounce it chah-nnel, not chennel.

#29 Posted by Vuud (1991 posts) -

I didn't notice it the first time Jeff said it, but after mentioning it, it's all I can hear now and its driving me nuts. Thanks a lot!

#30 Posted by chilibean_3 (1639 posts) -

With an unmistakable flourish.

#31 Posted by SirOptimusPrime (2007 posts) -

I have noticed this every single time he says the word "channel" and it's the only thing that any of the Bombcrew says that gets to me.

#32 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -

Carefully.

#33 Posted by CaLe (3982 posts) -

First they pronounce the ch like cheetah, then we have the an for antelope and finally the nel for Nelly, as in the rapper. Just remember Nelly riding on an antelope as it is being chased by a cheetah and you can't go wrong.

#34 Posted by chiablo (929 posts) -

XBox:

#35 Edited by RazielCuts (2953 posts) -

@chiablo:

Ha, I came here to say something 'Chanel' related too.

#36 Posted by Donkeycow (556 posts) -

Probably. Regional accents are funny that way.

Example: I grew up in Toronto. Having grown up in Toronto surrounded by native Toronto people, I pronounce Toronto as "Cha-ron-no". That's how most people said the city's name. You got the occasional person who insisted on "tor-on-to" but those were assholes who needed to be shunned from society. Didn't mind it from visitors or recent immigrants, but a person who has lived in the city for a period of time and still refers to it as "tor-on-to"? Massive douchebag.

I too am a Torontonian born and raised and I have to say you are wrong sir. I find most people say something closer to "Ta-ron-to" allowing that "t" sound to remain. Also i have no issue with "Tor-on-to," whatever way you cut it our city has a silly sounding name though.

#37 Edited by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -

To those who got emotional and salty because people dared to discuss this.. people are interested in each other's differences and are capable of discussing them like adults. I know it might shake you, but it's possible. People can talk about their differences without being victimized.

Regional accents exist. By discussing them with others, you increase your knowledge of them, and introduce others to knowledge they did not have. The assumption that drawing any attention whatsoever to someone's difference is automatic victimization of that person only results in differences being seen as inherently negative, as burdens, as unhappy problems rather than those aspects with which we understand ourselves as unique personalities with unique features.

I'm a Western Canadian, but I'm a reader and I have a certain affinity for Britishisms and Chicagoisms. So "You want I should wash the dead bugs off the windscreen?" is a sentence only I would say, and if people notice it and have enough knowledge about accents that they can place my grammar, my vocabulary, my 'schwa', they'll have a better understanding of me and my cultural references.

There is no 'normal' way to pronounce things. In any language. You might pronounce them correctly in the manner you were taught, but that doesn't make it 'normal'. The 'normal' way to speak French in Tours is not the normal way in Laval. This is one of those little solipsisms that prevent people from building knowledge and empathy of others. I remember how Ryan would pronounce wash as 'warsh' when he felt like it; noticing that, being able to place _why_ he says it like that actually helps people understand who Ryan Davis is, where he's coming from. It is not a condemnation of Ryan.

Man, I preferred my previous post. It was relaxed and fun.

#38 Posted by Kidavenger (3546 posts) -

"Cha-ron-no"

nobody does this...

no one would even know what you were talking about if you said that.

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#40 Posted by Iodine (547 posts) -

It was amazing to hear, but nothing can really phase me after going to college in Philly and learning that Milk is Melk and Water is Wodder

#41 Edited by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -

@kidavenger: Plenty of Canadians say Toronto as "Churanna", especially the working class. If you need proof, go to your closest gas station and ask what team lost last night.

#42 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4798 posts) -

@brodehouse said:

@kidavenger: If you need proof, go to your closest gas station and ask what team lost last night.

Ow. Low blow.

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#43 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -