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#1 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3204 posts) -

No seriously I really want to know. This guy has been through the ringer with all the dirty deeds, gone through the ringer publicly through the press, and doesn't seem quite popular with his peers and the people of Toronto. Why is this guy still mayor? Maybe GB users from Toronto or probably people who know more about the situation can shed some light on what the heck is going on up north. Seriously thought smoking crack with drug dealers while on the job would be the death bed for peoples political careers but it sounds like his career keeps on ticking.

#2 Posted by Sinusoidal (1421 posts) -

I was under the impression that he was mayor in title only now and has had his power stripped away? I dunno. Crap like this is part of the reason I left Canada.

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#3 Edited by Quid_Pro_Bono (257 posts) -

He totally had his power stripped. The reason he's still in office is bureaucratic bullshit, as expected. It's unreasonably difficult to remove a mayor in Canada, as I understand it (american here). They don't exactly have crack cocaine clauses, although after this clusterfuck I'm sure they'll enact some.

This article may help: http://globalnews.ca/news/588275/toronto-mayor-difficult-to-remove-legal-expert/

#4 Posted by SharkEthic (1043 posts) -

They recently passed a motion transferring his power to the deputy major. The guy is a fucking joke.

#5 Posted by Intro (1206 posts) -

I thought we already got past this? He said he was in a drunken stupor at the time, all is forgiven.

#6 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3204 posts) -

@intro said:

I thought we already got past this? He said he was in a drunken stupor at the time, all is forgiven.

Oh if its just booze, I guess all his past regression can be forgiven. Seriously this dude is like Chris Farley but a dick.

#7 Edited by chrisphil1724 (62 posts) -

After living in Detroit during Kwame Kilpatrick's term as mayor, Rob Ford's antics seem tame and cute too me. Can't wait to be in Toronto this weekend!

#8 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3204 posts) -

After living in Detroit during Kwame Kilpatrick term as major, Rob Ford's antics seem tame and cute too me. Can't wait to be in Toronto this weekend!

I mean its Detroit so its kinda expected.

#9 Posted by Spoonman671 (4597 posts) -

Canadians are very forgiving?

#10 Edited by Doctorchimp (4074 posts) -

After living in Detroit during Kwame Kilpatrick's term as mayor, Rob Ford's antics seem tame and cute too me. Can't wait to be in Toronto this weekend!

You could have stopped at "After living in Detroit"

#11 Edited by ArtisanBreads (3802 posts) -

Marion Barry was re elected as mayor of DC after it was found out he smoked crack. And he still works in the government there. Just saying, precedent!

#12 Posted by OneKillWonder_ (1728 posts) -

Because he's fucking awesome, that's why. Seriously, I love this dude and his brutal honesty, even if he is out of his fucking mind. He's hilarious to watch.

#13 Posted by Kidavenger (3532 posts) -

Crap like this is part of the reason I left Canada.

Crap like this is everywhere, it's certainly not a Canadian thing...

#14 Posted by wjb (1656 posts) -
#15 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1565 posts) -

There's no way for city council or the citizens of Toronto to remove the mayor. Only the provincial (rough equivalent of US state) government could do so through explicit legislation, and it would be dicey political territory for a sitting Liberal premier to make that kind of move without the support of every party in the Legislature. The PCs (basically the modern-day Conservatives/Republicans of Ontario) still don't seem like they're willing to throw Ford entirely under the bus, probably because he's managed to get elected in Toronto, and the PCs have been shut out of Toronto for the last few elections.

The other unfortunate reality here is that the next election season starts on January 1st, and not much of real political import tends to happen after that. Ford's just a vote on council at this point, and for all we know he'll end up behind bars before too long. The crack isn't really problem here -- it's his (alleged) connections to organized crime, attempts to destroy evidence, spousal abuse, drunk driving, etc. The police appear to have been investigating him for some time, and I imagine they're putting together a case now.

#16 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3204 posts) -
#17 Posted by Abendlaender (2788 posts) -

Crap like this is part of the reason I left Canada.

Yeah? Don't come to Austria then. It's probably worse here. Although we are such an insignifiant country that luckily it doesn't matter. Just to give you an idea, our former home minister accepted a bribe from some british journalists (he obviously didn't knew that, he thought they were lobbyists). His excuse? He said he thought they were Secret Agents and he was uncovering some sort of conspiracy. I'm not shitting you, he is still claiming that. Obviously he didn't tell ANYBODY about it because, according to his words, you can't trust the police. Just a quick reminder: Former home minister. Urgh.

#18 Posted by wchue (71 posts) -

I did not vote for ford, i live on jarvis

he managed to take the bike lanes away .... it made jarvis a freeway again

i don't like him at all...

Canadians are very forgiving?

yes we are, just don't close our lcbo's =)

#19 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3204 posts) -

@onekillwonder_: You're right, dudes funny as shit. He's wearing a CFL jersey while at the hearing! So sorry Toronto.

#20 Posted by mosespippy (4121 posts) -

@i_stay_puft: In Canada our Mayors have official titles. Could you please refer to him with the proper title of The Right Honourable Mayor of Toronto Rob Ford?

Even before this cocaine thing a judge ordered him out of office for corruption and he still managed to keep the job. Dude's connected. His brother is also a city counselor so he's got at least some support.

#21 Posted by Lukeweizer (2654 posts) -

@sinusoidal: Where did you end up going? I'm thinking about bailing too.

#22 Posted by Sammo21 (3261 posts) -

What do you mean? The former mayor of DC was re-elected after being caught with prostitutes and crack cocaine and he's not the only one.

#23 Posted by MarkM (289 posts) -

He was elected so he can't just be removed from office, he has to finish his term or whatever.

He's now a big fat crack smoking celeb. Putting Etobicoke on the map. what what

#24 Posted by superkebabi (27 posts) -

On a side note it's nice to see so many GB users from Toronto/Ontario/Canada.

#25 Edited by RonGalaxy (3125 posts) -

Politics

#26 Posted by Rebel_Scum (686 posts) -

So he smoked a little crack....so what. I'd rather have someone in power that has had a bit of alternative life experience. Just a shame he chose such a gutter drug.

On the record, I don't know that much about this guy or what the situation is so don't flame me for it. :)

#27 Edited by Sammo21 (3261 posts) -

@rebel_scum: The difference is he is doing all this crap while in office. Also, it is not just drug use its inappropriate behavior, corruption charges, drinking while driving, and possibly sexual harassment. I wish we demanded more of public officials and civil servants.

#28 Posted by ProfessorEss (7323 posts) -

Cuz government.

#29 Posted by Korwin (2847 posts) -

So he smoked a little crack....so what. I'd rather have someone in power that has had a bit of alternative life experience. Just a shame he chose such a gutter drug.

On the record, I don't know that much about this guy or what the situation is so don't flame me for it. :)

Really I mean the least he could have done is just done regular old blow like a normal politician instead of smoking it in rock form.

#30 Edited by Vinny_Says (5700 posts) -

I heard he was still popular popular amongst Torontonians because of his policies such as cutting down on car taxes and such. Anyone have any insight into this?

#31 Posted by Sinusoidal (1421 posts) -

@sinusoidal: Where did you end up going? I'm thinking about bailing too.

Korea. Things are probably worse here, but at least I can't understand a word of it!

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#32 Edited by Entus (253 posts) -

@vinny_says said:

I heard he was still popular popular amongst Torontonians because of his policies such as cutting down on car taxes and such. Anyone have any insight into this?

Yes, they're lower than expected atm, but whether or not that's actually Ford's doing is up to debate.

He's still 'in power' because most in Toronto don't really care. Even with Ford, Toronto is still relatively well-run compared to other cities of a similar size in US.

#33 Posted by chrisphil1724 (62 posts) -

@chrisphil1724 said:

After living in Detroit during Kwame Kilpatrick's term as mayor, Rob Ford's antics seem tame and cute too me. Can't wait to be in Toronto this weekend!

You could have stopped at "After living in Detroit"

HA! Fair point.

#34 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3228 posts) -

Why wouldn't he be mayor anymore? Never heard of Ralph "Why don't you homeless drunks get jobs?" Klein, have you?

Ford not only saves the T dot lots of money, but he isn't guilty of anything. So he made some off-colour/accidental remarks about eating his wife's pussy and was videotaped smoking something - remember - no one has proved he smoked crack. Plus he already told everyone he was super drunk that night and barely remembers it, so no harm, no foul.

All in all he's just a regular canuck.

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#36 Posted by LethalKi11ler (1406 posts) -

@intro said:

I thought we already got past this? He said he was in a drunken stupor at the time, all is forgiven.

#37 Edited by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

First off, because he's great with the money. Second, because he's like a reality tv celebrity. I'd be shocked if he wasn't re-elected

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#39 Posted by TruthTellah (8803 posts) -

#40 Posted by Cube (4366 posts) -

Why wouldn't he be mayor anymore? Never heard of Ralph "Why don't you homeless drunks get jobs?" Klein, have you?

Ford not only saves the T dot lots of money, but he isn't guilty of anything. So he made some off-colour/accidental remarks about eating his wife's pussy and was videotaped smoking something - remember - no one has proved he smoked crack. Plus he already told everyone he was super drunk that night and barely remembers it, so no harm, no foul.

All in all he's just a regular canuck.

Ralph Klein was awesome, though.

#41 Edited by Oldirtybearon (4719 posts) -

I can't help but cheer for the guy who throws a wrench into the system. The fact that he's so affable about everything only helps. It's hilarious to watch everyone try to shame him and he doesn't have any fucks to give. It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

#42 Edited by Animasta (14673 posts) -

It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

what the fuck does that even mean?

#43 Edited by Oldirtybearon (4719 posts) -

@animasta said:

@oldirtybearon said:

It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

what the fuck does that even mean?

You know the kind. The ones who get caught with their dicks in another man's ass and choose to humiliate their families while they stand there with their eyes low and mutter about forgiveness and how ashamed they are and blah blah blah. Nobody ever buys the remorse even if it were sincere, so why bother with that shit at all?

Ford at least shrugs and says "Meh, shit happens." That kind of honesty is refreshing.

#44 Posted by Animasta (14673 posts) -

@animasta said:

@oldirtybearon said:

It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

what the fuck does that even mean?

You know the kind. The ones who get caught with their dicks in another man's ass and choose to humiliate their families while they stand there with their eyes low and mutter about forgiveness and how ashamed they are and blah blah blah. Nobody ever buys the remorse even if it were sincere, so why bother with that shit at all?

Ford at least shrugs and says "Meh, shit happens." That kind of honesty is refreshing.

I'm pretty sure the people of toronto would prefer one that isn't so scandalous at all? Ford's shit happens tract might've worked if he did something once and then stopped, but it's not like he's stopping.

#45 Edited by Stonyman65 (2677 posts) -

@animasta said:

@oldirtybearon said:

It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

what the fuck does that even mean?

Meaning there is no political double speak bullshit, no blaming others, no trying to weasel your way out of everything like 99.9% of politicians do...

As much as Ford seems like a shitbag, I have have to give him serious props for being so blunt and honest - even to a fault.

and on an unrelated note, Chrome wants me to correct the word "shitbag" to Toshiba. Oh, Google....
Seriously. Try it out.

#46 Posted by Animasta (14673 posts) -

@animasta said:

@oldirtybearon said:

It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

what the fuck does that even mean?

Meaning there is no political double speak bullshit, no blaming others, no trying to weasel your way out of everything like 99.9% of politicians do...

As much as Ford seems like a shitbag, I have have to give him serious props for being so blunt and honest - even to a fault.

I'd rather have a dishonest politican that does good rather than a bad politician that's honest.

Hell, the best mayors are the ones you don't hear about very often. I lived in Eugene for 4 years and the only reason I remember that mayor was because she had a funny name (Kitty Piercy).

#47 Posted by Lydian_Sel (2483 posts) -

@chrisphil1724 said:

After living in Detroit during Kwame Kilpatrick's term as mayor, Rob Ford's antics seem tame and cute too me. Can't wait to be in Toronto this weekend!

After seeing your comment, I lost an hour reading about Kwame Kilpatrick's adventures in politics. Thanks, it was wildly entertaining!

#48 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3204 posts) -

@lydian_sel said:

@chrisphil1724 said:

After living in Detroit during Kwame Kilpatrick's term as mayor, Rob Ford's antics seem tame and cute too me. Can't wait to be in Toronto this weekend!

After seeing your comment, I lost an hour reading about Kwame Kilpatrick's adventures in politics. Thanks, it was wildly entertaining!

Meh, Kwame Kilpatrick did things that you kinda expect from a Detroit mayor. Only thing that didn't happen was robocop appearing and kick him in the arse. Toronto on the other hand, you need a guy who can flap his head here and there not some John Candy wannabe. You need the real John Candy for this position.

#49 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

@animasta said:

@stonyman65 said:

@animasta said:

@oldirtybearon said:

It's refreshing to see a politician who is blunt and not oscar-baiting over a scandal.

what the fuck does that even mean?

Meaning there is no political double speak bullshit, no blaming others, no trying to weasel your way out of everything like 99.9% of politicians do...

As much as Ford seems like a shitbag, I have have to give him serious props for being so blunt and honest - even to a fault.

I'd rather have a dishonest politican that does good rather than a bad politician that's honest.

Hell, the best mayors are the ones you don't hear about very often. I lived in Eugene for 4 years and the only reason I remember that mayor was because she had a funny name (Kitty Piercy).

Yes and I want to find a leprechaun and his pot of gold.

#50 Edited by spraynardtatum (2818 posts) -

Rob Ford reminds me of Lindsey Lohan.