I had a gun held to my face last night

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#1  Edited By DrPockets000

I was held up a gunpoint last night at work.  I'm going to see a counselor tomorrow but I don't know how I'm supposed to deal with it.   
 
Has anyone ever had some kind of traumatic experience?  What happened and how did you deal with it?

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#2  Edited By BraveToaster

 
I'm glad you're safe!
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#3  Edited By Yummylee

You shouda initiated the quick time event! 
 
Anywhoo sucks you had to go through with that. Fortunately I've never experienced anything I'd categorise as traumatising, so all I got for you is a wishing you well. X)

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#4  Edited By perilator666

i was shot in the leg three years ago. drive-by shooting. wrong place, wrong time. 
 
hope you can cope duder. *brohug*

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#5  Edited By FunExplosions

Damn, man. My roommate (white boy like me) recently had a gun pointed at his face, as well. The circumstances may have been slightly different, though. The girl was crazy and he was really drunk at the time. I would have pissed all over the place if it was me. I gotta ask, though, for my own selfish curiosity, how old are you?

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#6  Edited By HitmanAgent47

I can teach you have to disarm a gun to get over it. It's definently possible and it might help you get over it at the very least. That's my advice, learn how to disarm guns and if they only want your money, you did the right thing by giving it to them.

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#7  Edited By LiquidPrince

Glad you're alright.

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#8  Edited By BraveToaster
@HitmanAgent47 said:
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I can teach you have to disarm one, oh wait, your a hater, i'm not going to help you. 

Wow
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#9  Edited By DrPockets000
@FunExplosions: I'm 21.   WHich means I can legally buy hard alcohol and get drunk, which I did.
 
@HitmanAgent47: It's easy to talk about disarming someone until you have a gun shoved in your face and you're right in the middle of the situation.  Get back to me when it's happened to you and tell me you were able to disarm the guy.
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#10  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@DrPockets000: Keep talking, I disarm guns throughout the year in my training and I can do it automatically from almost any angle. I have disarmed guns hundreds of times pointed at my face in training. I even am trained in 3rd party protection of others like a bodyguard. I wouldn't be surprised if axxol can do it too, I mean he's trained in the military. Maybe the only way you can get over that situation is to learn it yourself too. You get a bit less scared that way and sometimes giving up your wallet, they will still shoot you so it's good to know something. (not trying to brag, but exposure to it might help him get over it)
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#11  Edited By YoThatLimp
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @DrPockets000: Keep talking, I disarm guns throughout the year in my training and I can do it automatically from almost any angle. I have disarmed guns hundreds of times pointed at my face in training. I even am trained in 3rd party protection of others like a bodyguard. I wouldn't be surprised if axxol can do it too, I mean he's trained in the military. Maybe the only way you can get over that situation is to learn it yourself too. "
I'm going to go ahead and say that "training" is a lot different than a real life scenario. 
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#12  Edited By DrPockets000
@HitmanAgent47: training is fucking different than real fucking life.  I've been trained in breaking someone's bones in twelve different places but in real life with a real handgun with real bullets and a guy who isn't part of an act and ready to shoot you for a few hundred dollars is really fucking different than training! Get off your pedestal, you spend all of your time here making yourself seem cool.
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#13  Edited By DeShawn2ks
@DrPockets000:  Honestly I got a gun of my own. Was at a club with a buddy of mine when it got shot up at closing time. Then one time 2 guys tried to run up in my apartment. You seriously need to see about getting some protection for yourself. Glad you are safe though man sorry you had to go through that. You can look into some self defense training if you want also but I don't see how much that can help unless it is only one guy and he is close enough to where maybe you can get his gun. Even then you have to think about the fear factor. A lot of people think they are ready for anything until they are put into a situation like yours.
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#14  Edited By time allen
@HitmanAgent47 said:
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I can teach you have to disarm one, oh wait, your a hater, i'm not going to help you. It's definently possible and it might help you get over it at the very least. That's my advice, learn how to disarm guns and if they only want your money, you did the right thing by giving it to them.

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can you teach me how to disarm demons
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#15  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@DrPockets000: You suffered from post tramatic stress disorder now, I can tell you which psychologist can help you with what techniques, but I don't want to help you. I'm telling you it's totally possible to disarm the gun, it takes like a second for them to fire, they have to tell their brain to actually pull the trigger so you do have time. Training under stress gets you used to this type of situation and yes I train with others yelling at me pointing the gun in my face, but it's not loaded. You did the right thing by giving them the wallet at least. But I am not as scared as you are, most civilians are afraid of firearms and it's understanble. But i'm so used to it, I was offering to help you get over your fear, but over the years, you treated me like crap and pretended you were better than me in terms of relationships advice so good luck with your therapy.
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#16  Edited By time allen
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @DrPockets000:, I was offering to help you get over your fear, but over the years, you treated me like crap and pretended you were better than me in terms of relationships advice so good luck with your therapy. "
i had my suspicions but i think at this point we can officially call it. 
 
troll.
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There's no way he's serious.

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#18  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Metalideth: Having no training and no means of self defense in real life is taking a chance and having no means to defend yourself. In militaries, you don't always fight hand to hand with no weapon of your own so not alot of ppl been in that situation, but it's about as close as you can get. I'm trained in krav maga, isreali military and various military, FBI and other law enforment training uses this, so I am using the same thing they are. If they use it, then so do I and obviously they won't invest in training that doesn't work.
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#19  Edited By Solarus

That's really harsh man, I'm sorry to hear that. I can't say I'd be able to understand your situation, because I have no clue how I'd react myself, but it would definitely be traumatizing. The only advice I can really offer is kind of cheesy: Find the silver lining with the trauma and just try to appreciate life all that much more.

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#20  Edited By DrPockets000
@HitmanAgent47: I've never acted like I was better than you, I've always been sick of your 'holier than thou' attitude so I reacted.  
 
@DeShawn2ks: I was working.  He stuck the gun in my face and told me to open the register.  
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#21  Edited By TheDudeOfGaming

Glad you're alive dude,get a gun,level the playing field for the future man...i know it might seem crazy,but we live in a crazy world,obviously.

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#22  Edited By DrPockets000
@Solarus: I definitely enjoy life more, no doubt about that.  The world seems more colorful, and everything tastes better.  I thought that only happened in the movies. 
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#23  Edited By zeforgotten

I've had a gun pointed at my face back when I was 14. 
I was down at the gas station close to where I lived at the time, buying cigarets and a coke when some guy decided to rob the gas station while I was in there. 
My and the girl behind the counter were the only people in there when he came in and he came from behind and threw me to the ground and then pointed his gun at men while odering the girl to give him all the money they had. He got the money and left again right after that. So I had to sit around and wait for the police to show up so I could describe how the guy looked under the ski mask. 
 
Yeah, the police thing I have see-through-fabric vision. 

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#24  Edited By BraveToaster
@DrPockets000: You're right, training with rubber weapons is different from the real deal. Most of the time, you don't even see it coming. 
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#25  Edited By JJWeatherman
@HitmanAgent47: Stop being a dick. The things you post on Giant Bomb are unbelievable sometimes... if not all of the time. 
 
@DrPockets000: Good luck putting this all behind you. I'm sure you'll be able to do it sooner than you think. It'll make for an interesting story one day.
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#26  Edited By krisgebis

@hitmanagent47: The standard human reaction time is 215ms. That is 0.215 sec and NOT 1 sec. Gambling your life trying to be cool in a back allay is NOT adviceable.

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#27  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@Axxol: you know how to disarm guns too right? I use metal guns but we can't load them with stuff but we can still fire it at least. No one uses rubber guns these days because it doesn't feel like a real gun. However sure you don't see it comming is assassinations. You see it comming because they are demanding something from you, whether for money, information or to take you to another place before they even consider killing you. At this point, you have a chance if you know what to do because most ppl takes a full second and a half, meaning you have just enough time to do a technique if it's good. If you think training doesn't help ppl, then they really shouldn't train at all in militaries to disarm by your logic.
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#28  Edited By beej
@DeShawn2ks: Well I wouldn't take that as comforting. What's the number on people getting hurt when they have a gun for self defense in an assault? Something like 4.5 times more likely.  
@HitmanAgent47: It's thinking like that that get's people shot. For your own god damned safety don't do that. Fuck, even if you think you could disarm him, consider the risk to reward ratio for one damn second. 
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#29  Edited By FirePrince

Glad you are safe.Must've sucked. 
Next time, bring a shotgun to work, drill a hole in your desk, and position it so that when you pull the trigger, the guy's balls decorate the room. 

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@Krisgebis: Not to mention if they're smart enough to stay a foot or two out of reach
 
Edit:  And good luck putting this behind you, hope you can do it quickly and painlessly.
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#31  Edited By eric_buck
@HitmanAgent47: *you're 
 
Sorry but I'm trying to change the world.
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#32  Edited By Nasos100
@HitmanAgent47 said:
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I can teach you have to disarm one, oh wait, your a hater, i'm not going to help you. It's definently possible and it might help you get over it at the very least. That's my advice, learn how to disarm guns and if they only want your money, you did the right thing by giving it to them.

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Obviously trying to disarm a dude holding a gun in your face is the best course of action. Even more if they are drug addicts. Whats the worst that could happen?
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#33  Edited By zeforgotten
@beej said:
"@HitmanAgent47: It's thinking like that that get's people shot. For your own god damned safety don't do that. Fuck, even if you think you could disarm him, consider the risk to reward ratio for one damn second.  "
If he's  able to do it I think he at least should give it a try. 
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#34  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@beej: I only mean that if you give them the money and they still want to shoot you then you have to go for the disarm. Obviously i've trained to give them the money first, most of the time they will go away. But sometimes they will still shoot you because they don't want to be indetified or bring you somewhere else to kill you. This didn't happen to the op and he's safe. At this point, the danger is over. Knowing alot about psychology, he is suffering from post tramatic stress and there are ways to get rid of it, it's good he is talking about it right now, that's healthy. There are alot of techniques a soilder will use after they finish a trip to iraq that helps.        Give him the money first, if it doesn't work, you have to disarm. Not everyone is going to take your money then go away, they might shoot you because they don't want to be indentifed. Obviously you give them the money first, I should of mentioned that. The op did the right thing and he's safe. But some ppl really will shoot you even if you give them your money, it happens all the time. (this bit of info is true)
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#35  Edited By DrPockets000
@HitmanAgent47:  you are truly an asshole.  Before I thought you were just a prick.  Now I can see that there is nothing redeemable at all in you.  
  
@ZeForgotten:  In the days following this, how did you respond?  How did you cope?
 
This guy just came around the corner with his handgun.  It all happened so fast and it keeps replaying in my head.
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#36  Edited By EvilTwin
@DrPockets000:  That's terrifying man.  Props to you for just doing what you're told and making it out alive.   
 
What time did it happen?
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#37  Edited By BraveToaster
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @Axxol: you know how to disarm guns too right? I use metal guns but we can't load them with stuff but we can still fire it at least. No one uses rubber guns these days because it doesn't feel like a real gun. However sure you don't see it comming is assassinations. You see it comming because they are demanding something from you, whether for money, information or to take you to another place before they even consider killing you. At this point, you have a chance if you know what to do because most ppl takes a full second and a half, meaning you have just enough time to do a technique if it's good. If you think training doesn't help ppl, then they really shouldn't train at all in militaries to disarm by your logic. "
I never said that training never helped. I'm not going to get into a debate over this.
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#38  Edited By DrPockets000
@EvilTwin: around 10:30ish mountain time in the evening.  We were getting ready to close.
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#39  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@DrPockets000: i'll do something nice for you then, it will be my only act of kindness towards you. If you find a psychologist who specialises is something called EMDR, you can get over the situation, or it will replay in your head forever. Google that and it should actually help you get over the adrenline. I can go into the whole science of it, but that's the hint. I don't have to help you but go google that and find someone who knows how to do that. Since soilders comming back from wars also uses this. Good luck. (I mean this with the best of intentions, maybe we didn't get along, however I do want to help)
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#41  Edited By Matfei90
@Eric_Buck said:
" @HitmanAgent47: *you're  Sorry but I'm trying to change the world. "
Not sure about changing the world, but we could change the forum for the better if we got rid of him.
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#42  Edited By beej
@Matfei90 said:
" @Eric_Buck said:
" @HitmanAgent47: *you're  Sorry but I'm trying to change the world. "
Not sure about changing the world, but we could change the forum for the better if we got rid of him. "
Never say that! He's a god damned national treasure. 
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#43  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@dudeglove: yeah your right, it's possible, but it's risky. I do know a move, but they have to get the gun over the counter close to your head for it to work. Most of the time you have to be in range or it won't work. Imo the op did exactly the right thing, he survived.
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#44  Edited By canucks23
@ZeForgotten said:
" I've had a gun pointed at my face back when I was 14. I was down at the gas station close to where I lived at the time, buying cigarets and a coke when some guy decided to rob the gas station while I was in there. My and the girl behind the counter were the only people in there when he came in and he came from behind and threw me to the ground and then pointed his gun at men while odering the girl to give him all the money they had. He got the money and left again right after that. So I had to sit around and wait for the police to show up so I could describe how the guy looked under the ski mask.  Yeah, the police thing I have see-through-fabric vision.  "
Wait, you were buying cigarettes when you were 14?
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#45  Edited By shadyspace
@canucks23: Me along with everyone I knew in high school was buying cigarettes at 14. There's always somewhere that'll sell.
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#46  Edited By Jambones
@Axxol said:
"  I'm glad you're safe! "
Definitely. Talking to a counselor is a good first move and I hope you get through it quickly. 
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#47  Edited By DrPockets000
@HitmanAgent47: You're a fucking badass.  Is that what you wanted to hear?  I'm a psychologist in training, with significant emphasis is neurology/physiology.  I know about this shit.  Stop trying to lord you knowledge over everyone.  It makes me fucking sick.   
 
@dudeglove: We do not have one of those.  As you hypothesize, there was indeed a counter between us that would have made cool martial arts very ineffective.
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#48  Edited By zeforgotten
@DrPockets000: I kept going over it again and again and my mind was just set on thinking about what could have gone wrong. 
It was like that for some time but I already had help from the start since the police(i guess) set me up with someone I could talk to. It took a little over 3 month to get over it enough so that I now can actually put on foot inside a gas station without freaking out. Sure there's stille something in the back of my mind poking at me whenever I have to go in that same gas station but it's been years since it happened and nothing has happened since then. But having one to talk to about it did help a lot.  
 
You're gonna go over it a lot of times still but eventually with the right amount of help you'll getter better. 
Sorry to hear about your story but I'm just glad that you're ok and that nobody else got hurt 
 
@canucks23: Yup, then minimum age for buying cigarets didn't excist when I was 14. 
It only showed up a couple of years ago so now you have to be 18 to buy cigarets.  
 
16 for alchol.  
 
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#49  Edited By canucks23
@shadyspace: Yea i guess i didn't think about that, there are gas stations around here that do that too.
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#50  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@DrPockets000: wow there is that attitude again, you should already know how to heal yourself then. You don't even need a psychologist to help you. You can probally figure out the techniques yourself, good luck. I mean you were going to go to a councellor, which probally does CBT, cognitive behavior therapy which wouldn't help at all in your situation. Besides they don't teach EMDR and it's not reconised yet in universities for psychology, even though it probally works. (I felt insulted, but I still want him to realise that he might spend time and money for something that might take years to get over, when my advice can have him fixed in a few weeks)