I think im good enough to be in Coldplays's band!!!!

Correction. Music used to be an expression from the soul. Now its more of an expression from someones ass."

yet again you were awful just stop .

"Jayge said:

"Austin said:

"Here it is my Tpain one! Its called "Buy you Drank"
I admit I tried a little harder on this one so u can be critical.

  

"

You sound like you're straining your voice too hard. Is your natural range lower than that?"

Yeah, I did, I had to make my voice very high pitched like a woman's voice since my normal voice is kinda deep. I noticed that autotune doesn't work well with deep voices."

"ParanoidFreak said:

"Austin said:

Not being able to sing didn't stop Bob Dylan, Tom Waits or that prick from AC/DC so why would it stop T-Pain and the amazingly talented Kanye West? To me, Autotune is a good sound which has just been overused. Particularly on 808s and Heartbreaks where it gets tiring by the midpoint of the album."

Not being able to sing didn't stop Bob Dylan, Tom Waits or that prick from AC/DC so why would it stop T-Pain and the amazingly talented Kanye West? 

not quite

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The singers of old put a lot of passion into it. Bob Dylan is a great example. You could tell he was feeling what he was singing.

We don't get people like Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin or Ozzy anymore, people with subpar voices that really feel the music and go all out when they perform. There's people with natural talent raping the ears with copious amounts of malisma, and then there's people who can't sing that make it sound like they can.

I have absolutely no problem with people "without talent" like Kanye West or T-Pain or whatever singing and making music, but I just feel that disguising yourself behind a program seems like a copout. Pouring your soul into something and making a terrific song with pitch correction over extreme effort on the performer's part seems lame to me.

Another thing: With pitch correction, we lose some of that really cool trivia that we always get from albums of old. In the song Aqualung by Jethro Tull, for example, there is a really feedbacky, somewhat offpitch note held in the solo. This note occured when the guitarist for Jethro Tull was waving to Jimmy Page (guitarist for Zeppelin, HandsomeDead) who had stepped in to watch him record. That kind of stuff is really, really interesting to me because it helps make the music, as I said before, more real. My music theacher once brought up a great point when it comes to music, or at least choral music. You will never perform a song the same way twice. Whether you change something or change your dynamics, someone sings louder, a person that usually sings loud backs off, etc. That is also really intriguing to me. The errors of music are just as fascinating to me as the things they did right, and there's people out there that disagree with me, I'm sure, but that's just how my development as a musician and listener has gone.

I guess there's no point in complaining, so I'll leave it at that. I think I've said all I want to on the subject, and I did it all without insulting Austin, I think!

That T-Pain thing isn't you, though. Sing low without an autotuner, and see what happens. Sing some old Frogman tunes or something.

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I hate auto tuning with Viva La Vida

First of all, I do think his singing was alright. He did have the balls to do it, and for the style you're going for you performed quite well. I don't think it fits in as well with Viva la Vida as with Buy you a Drank, but its applaudable nonetheless. 

Bono hates you.

"Kanye West is far from talented, he does covers for all of his music!"

"HandsomeDead said:

Not being able to sing didn't stop Bob Dylan, Tom Waits or that prick from AC/DC so why would it stop T-Pain and the amazingly talented Kanye West? 

The singers of old put a lot of passion into it. Bob Dylan is a great example. You could tell he was feeling what he was singing.

We don't get people like Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin or Ozzy anymore, people with subpar voices that really feel the music and go all out when they perform. There's people with natural talent raping the ears with copious amounts of malisma, and then there's people who can't sing that make it sound like they can.

I have absolutely no problem with people "without talent" like Kanye West or T-Pain or whatever singing and making music, but I just feel that disguising yourself behind a program seems like a copout. Pouring your soul into something and making a terrific song with pitch correction over extreme effort on the performer's part seems lame to me.

Another thing: With pitch correction, we lose some of that really cool trivia that we always get from albums of old. In the song Aqualung by Jethro Tull, for example, there is a really feedbacky, somewhat offpitch note held in the solo. This note occured when the guitarist for Jethro Tull was waving to Jimmy Page (guitarist for Zeppelin, HandsomeDead) who had stepped in to watch him record. That kind of stuff is really, really interesting to me because it helps make the music, as I said before, more real. My music theacher once brought up a great point when it comes to music, or at least choral music. You will never perform a song the same way twice. Whether you change something or change your dynamics, someone sings louder, a person that usually sings loud backs off, etc. That is also really intriguing to me. The errors of music are just as fascinating to me as the things they did right, and there's people out there that disagree with me, I'm sure, but that's just how my development as a musician and listener has gone.

I guess there's no point in complaining, so I'll leave it at that. I think I've said all I want to on the subject, and I did it all without insulting Austin, I think!

That T-Pain thing isn't you, though. Sing low without an autotuner, and see what happens. Sing some old Frogman tunes or something.

"

That made me want to punch babies in the balls.

"That was so bad that it made my EYES bleed. MY EYES WEREN'T EVEN LISTENING."

So here's my weird-ass stance on AutoTune:

IMO, it's actually not all that bad. The thing is, if you can't sing, don't go anywhere near it. I've messed around with AutoTune before, and you actually need to have a decent voice for it to sound nice. Otherwise, if you're a bit too flat or sharp, AutoTune will recognize the wrong notes and make you sound even worse. IIRC, Kanye, who should stay as far away from singing as possible, had this happen in his last album a few times. For those that can sing (like T-Pain who, believe it or not, is an okay singer without AutoTune), it's a neat little effect to use. But I don't like the fact that some singers are using it as their gimmick.

EDIT: Here's an example of AutoTune being used well. She uses AutoTune for this one video only, and she's a good singer.