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#1 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -

I'm sure there is plenty of guys working at the office for whiskey media who love to play team sports games, like hockey, baseball and football.  One of those dudes could surely throw in a review or two every now and then. 
 
The site has been live for over a year, i think its about time they got somebody to review sports games.  
 
As much as many of you may like to think ,despite never actually playing them, sports games can be just as technically top-notch as uncharted 2 and batman arkham asylum. 

#2 Posted by damnboyadvance (4061 posts) -
@TwoOneFive: Does this answer your  question?

"...Giant Bomb isn't interested in the fire-hose approach to video game coverage. Our editorial team is small and experienced, and our job is to highlight the stuff that we feel is significant, either to us on a personal level, or for video games at large. That's not everything, but it's still a lot. Though, we're not real big on sports games, so don't expect too much meaningful/informed Madden coverage.     "

#3 Posted by Tuggah (1072 posts) -

I like sports and sports games, they could hire me. /sarcasm

#4 Posted by Ineedaname (4319 posts) -

Does this not fall under their original ruling though they're going to try and cover only a certain percent of games. To be reviewing sports games seems like a waste of time anyway, more times than not the following game in the series is just the same as the previous with a few changes.
 
Though having said that Coonce plays Madden, I remember reading a tournament thread he wanted in on, so if he had time maybe he could do some.

#5 Posted by ez123 (1967 posts) -

 Jeff's going to review UFC annually now, that's all you're gonna get.
 
I still play NFL 2K5 so ...... don't really give a fuck.

#6 Posted by Fripplebubby (1027 posts) -

Doesn't everyone think it's about time for people to enjoy what they already have?

#7 Edited by EpicSteve (6490 posts) -

From what they've said, they aren't qualified to review typical sports games. Here's the most coverage you'll get.
 
 

#8 Posted by Synchronatic (130 posts) -

Sports games hardly change from year to year so it's not worth losing real game reviews for that. Or site space really. Or the extra time it takes to scroll past them.

#9 Posted by DukeTogo (1504 posts) -

The site is designed to allow for user reviews, making the need for the old idea of a "sports guy", "driving guy", "sim guy", and "RPG guy" obsolete.  Besides, why review games that get yearly updates, made by the same company, bought annually by the same people?  It's not like there's a choice.  For the few games that actually have to compete, most people decided years ago whether they're a FIFA guy or a Winning Eleven guy.  There isn't much to review outside of saying what's new, and if it's broken or not.

#10 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
@DukeTogo said:
Besides, why review games that get yearly updates, made by the same company, bought annually by the same people?
Umm....* coughs, interrupts this thread*
#11 Edited by natetodamax (19212 posts) -

Difference between the Madden games each year: This guy is on that team and that guy is on this team. They would be too difficult to review, and nobody would care.

#12 Posted by Daryl (1781 posts) -
#13 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

much like what ryan said about anime 
every review would start with "well it's a sports game so it sucks"

#14 Posted by Absinthetic (172 posts) -

how much really changes from year to year?
 
i think its rather a waste of time to do a complete review of something where there are only one or two changes that were made and the rest is just tweaks

#15 Posted by SJSchmidt93 (4896 posts) -

Sports game reviews are dumb. You know what you're getting when you buy a sports game.

#16 Posted by Jadeskye (4367 posts) -

I think it would be funny to watch jeff and ryan play sports game X. But serious review? naw.

#17 Posted by Daryl (1781 posts) -

Oh and they cover the Smackdown games as well. 

#18 Posted by Delta_Ass (3282 posts) -

I think sports games are dumb, so this is a bad idea.

#19 Posted by ptc (621 posts) -

Attention Giantbomb: please DO NOT waste your time on sports game reviews. 

#20 Posted by Black_Rose (7785 posts) -

They can just review this year's Madden/NBA/Fifa/PES/NHL and not have to review the sequels for another 10 years since they're basically the same. 

#21 Posted by TheGremp (2064 posts) -

Why bother? Every review would be "Well, it's a bit better than last years. They found a new gimmick related to the right analog stick, and the rosters are updated. 3 stars."

#22 Posted by pause422 (6201 posts) -

No its not.

#23 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -
@damnboyadvance said:
" @TwoOneFive: Does this answer your  question?

"...Giant Bomb isn't interested in the fire-hose approach to video game coverage. Our editorial team is small and experienced, and our job is to highlight the stuff that we feel is significant, either to us on a personal level, or for video games at large. That's not everything, but it's still a lot. Though, we're not real big on sports games, so don't expect too much meaningful/informed Madden coverage.     "

"
dude, be real, thats bullshit if you think about it
 
these guys review a ton of games, and thats just the main four, others sometimes step in for different reviews. but yeah, they review far moer games, many of which are really under the radar type. 
 
im just saying there has got to be somebody willing to do sports games reviews for GB. @TheGremp said:
" Why bother? Every review would be "Well, it's a bit better than last years. They found a new gimmick related to the right analog stick, and the rosters are updated. 3 stars." "
and dude, its guys like you that annoy me. 
we get it, you don't like sports. 
you're being very narrow minded in that assumption. 
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year. obviously theres plenty of new content and improvements and tweaks etc to validate a full written review.
#24 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
@TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.)
#25 Posted by bonbolapti (1617 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
Maybe you need to be a better writer. 
 
TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.
But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance.
#26 Edited by Black_Rose (7785 posts) -
@TwoOneFive said:

"and dude, its guys like you that annoy me.  we get it, you don't like sports.  you're being very narrow minded in that assumption.  Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year. obviously theres plenty of new content and improvements and tweaks etc to validate a full written review. "

Have you ever actually read those reviews? They talk the same crap 90% of the time, and the other 10% is spent  talking about last year's game. 
#27 Posted by TheHBK (5506 posts) -

They aint qualified to review the games since they dont even like sports.  At most Jeff is the closest to liking any real sports.  But he doesn't play the mainstream, though I am sure we will get an NBA Jam review when the game is out.
They would need another person, or ask around the office of the engineers if they play the games and could write a review.  I mean, do none of these guys get excited for the BCS Title game or March Madness or the Super Bowl?  The NBA Finals where Kobe goes on a rampage to give everyone a facial?

#28 Posted by DanielJW (4915 posts) -
@TheGremp said:
" Why bother? Every review would be "Well, it's a bit better than last years. They found a new gimmick related to the right analog stick, and the rosters are updated. 3 stars." "
Perfect.
#29 Posted by Ramyun (664 posts) -

I think it's less to do with the innovation (or lack of) within sports games, and more to do with their lack of knowledge on sports games that they don't review them, which is a good move. I mean I cannot play RTS games competently so I don't expect my views and opinions on the quality of the product to be taken seriously.

#30 Posted by Red12b (9084 posts) -

They do review sports games, Skate2 THRide, Fight Night, Wii Sports 
 
Sports games, Whats your point?
#31 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
@bonbolapti: 
 
Or maybe it's hard to rephrase the same Mega Man review about 21 times. What am I supposed to add to that?
#32 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

i really don't think they want to because they are really all the same game over and over. madden gets a yearly new game, it's just about the same game. i think they do review some games because they don't have a new game every year.

#33 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -
@bonbolapti said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
Maybe you need to be a better writer.  TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "
i agree.  
this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED.  
With movies i think its the most obvious.  
I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database.  
To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous. 
 
I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like "  Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?"  , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003.  
#34 Edited by wrecks (2283 posts) -

Sports does not exist in this Dojo. And I'm fine with that. The staff made a decision to start a site and try to live a working life away from all the shit they HAD to do at big corporate review factories like gamespot. There are plenty, PLENTY of sites out there to cover all your sports review needs. Plus, this site lives and breathes off user content, so write more reviews or encourage your pals to review. I applaud the guys for sticking to their guns and playing exactly what they want to play, including shovel ware, and not catering to what they feel might garner more traffic.

#35 Posted by Soap (3607 posts) -

No.... no I don't think it is.

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#36 Posted by Tordah (2480 posts) -

I don't really care for sports games so I'm fine with it.
 
Ski Or Die is still the best sports game I've ever played. It was simple, fun and funny.

#37 Edited by Tordah (2480 posts) -

I don't really care for sports games so I'm fine with it.
 
Ski Or Die (PC version) is still the best sports game I've ever played. It was simple, fun and funny.

#38 Posted by cinemandrew (711 posts) -
@TwoOneFive said:
" I'm sure there is plenty of guys working at the office for whiskey media who love to play team sports games, like hockey, baseball and football.  One of those dudes could surely throw in a review or two every now and then."
They build websites, they're not writers. Yes, Dave does occasionally do reviews, but it's very rare, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he has a lot of editing help from the rest of the staff. Not to mention that "those dudes" are probably far too busy maintaining this site.
#39 Posted by Crono (2685 posts) -
@TwoOneFive said:
" @bonbolapti said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
Maybe you need to be a better writer.  TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "
i agree.  this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED.  With movies i think its the most obvious.  I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database.  To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous.  I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like "  Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?"  , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003.   "
Their existence isn't ignored.  They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database.  If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site.  Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!?  Quit ignoring Joust!
 
As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports.  Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people.  Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information).  Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content?  Because that is what you would likely get.
#40 Posted by Crono (2685 posts) -
@TwoOneFive said:
" @bonbolapti said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
Maybe you need to be a better writer.  TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "
i agree.  this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED.  With movies i think its the most obvious.  I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database.  To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous.  I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like "  Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?"  , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003.   "
Their existence isn't ignored.  They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database.  If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site.  Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!?  Quit ignoring Joust!
 
As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports.  Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people.  Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information).  Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content?  Because that is what you would likely get.
#41 Posted by CharleyTony (924 posts) -

I would like one hilarious collaborative sport game review per year... that's it ...
#42 Posted by Emandudeguyperson (2501 posts) -
@Synchronatic said:
" Sports games hardly change from year to year so it's not worth losing real game reviews for that. Or site space really. Or the extra time it takes to scroll past them. "
#43 Posted by AndrewB (7665 posts) -

Wait 'till the end of the year and lump them all into one giant review.

#44 Posted by Grimace (376 posts) -

When it comes out this year I think it would be fun to see them do a quick look of the AFL (Australian Football) game.

#45 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -
@Crono said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
" @bonbolapti said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
Maybe you need to be a better writer.  TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "
i agree.  this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED.  With movies i think its the most obvious.  I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database.  To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous.  I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like "  Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?"  , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003.   "
Their existence isn't ignored.  They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database.  If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site.  Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!?  Quit ignoring Joust!  As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports.  Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people.  Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information).  Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content?  Because that is what you would likely get. "
i meant ignore as in, GB staff swearing to cover only the biggest and best game releases and all the rest that people care about. sports games are incredibly popular. 
#46 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -

No go to a different site for sports games reviews and coverage.

#47 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -
@cinemandrew said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
" I'm sure there is plenty of guys working at the office for whiskey media who love to play team sports games, like hockey, baseball and football.  One of those dudes could surely throw in a review or two every now and then."
They build websites, they're not writers. Yes, Dave does occasionally do reviews, but it's very rare, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he has a lot of editing help from the rest of the staff. Not to mention that "those dudes" are probably far too busy maintaining this site. "
so there is nobody else besides dave who would like to do the occasional review? 
#48 Edited by Frederik (377 posts) -

I play a lot of FIFA and occasionally some NBA, NFL or Madden as well, and I am very happy that they don't review those. The time it would take them to inform me about games I know are coming and I know will be pretty good, could take up the time that is now used for games like Cryostasis,Silent Hill and Fat Princess that I wouldn't have heard of otherwise.  
 
That Giantbomb has a unique editorial direction is what keeps it from being a run-of-the-mill "gamer" website (plus legendary editors, top notch videos and this)

#49 Posted by deadly_polo (471 posts) -

Giant Bomb's rating system works that really games don't get given scores which are meaningful, the scores mean how much GB recommend the game, not just what they think of it. Unless they have someone who loves sports games, there probably isn't much point in trying to say if the game is recommendable or not, since the staff don't like it. 
 
For an example, if Demon Souls were to be reviewed, on the GB system they would probably give it 3 stars, since this is what governs the ratings. That is why The Ballad of Gay Tony only got 3 stars, it isn't 60%, it is saying that " An inherent appreciation of this game's specific gameplay style, characters, subject matter, and so on may play as big a role in your enjoyment as the actual quality of the game"; and for Ryan this applied, he didn't think everyone would love it and so it was a 3. 
 
Giant Bomb isn't comparable to other games websites which give scores, since it is the written review which should influence a purchase the most. For a sports game Giant Bomb's staff (and Whiskey Media's do have other stuff to do) have no basis so can't be fair with a review, you either will like a Soccer game or not; end of.

#50 Posted by Crono (2685 posts) -
@TwoOneFive said:
" @Crono said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
" @bonbolapti said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
Gamespot, for istance, writes lengthy reviews for Madden every year.
That doesn't mean they're good reviews or informative. Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again? You just end up repeating yourself a lot. (I know this from personal experience.) "
Maybe you need to be a better writer.  TwoOneFive does have a point, I've played a fair amount of Sports games to tell differences between them all. The only problem with this thread is that a lot of you guys are jaded.But Unless somebody from the crew does actually step up, and and review sports games. I really don't think it'll happen. That crew and this demographic? It would have to be a pretty freak chance. "
i agree.  this site and most of the people i come across on the internet are JADED.  With movies i think its the most obvious.  I mean, the site is supposed to be the end-all videogame database.  To ignore the existence of some of the biggest selling games in the industry is a ridiculous.  I know that a lot of the people on here don't play sports, don't play sports games, and have a very narrow minded opinion on sports games in general. The truth is, you sound like asses when you say things like "  Do you know how hard it is to write a review about the same crap again and again?"  , because with that dumbass logic, Madden 10 is clearly the same as Madden 2003.   "
Their existence isn't ignored.  They have wiki entries and therefor they are in the end-all video game database.  If we used your logic of no review = ignoring existence then there are thousands upon thousands of games that are ignored on this site.  Where's my Joust review, Giant Bomb!?  Quit ignoring Joust!  As many have mentioned there are sports reviews here but you seem to mean the "mainstream, national TV" sports.  Well, I remember hearing Jeff say at some point that those games are covered by so many other outlets that they just leave it to them - that, plus they aren't "sports" people.  Their lack of interest and knowledge of sports would result in a very poor review of the game (I don't mean score-wise, I mean that the review itself would not contain much useful information).  Would you really like the GB crew to review sports games and have said review have little to no useful content?  Because that is what you would likely get. "
i meant ignore as in, GB staff swearing to cover only the biggest and best game releases and all the rest that people care about. sports games are incredibly popular.  "
Please read my whole post.