What would you be doing right now?
Trying to get Shogun 2 to let me scroll right without my mouse pointer going onto my second monitor, FFS
I ques I would be falling trough earth faster than speed of light.
I'd hopefully be doing exactly what I'm doing now, unless I had to instead be fighting the hooligans from my doorstep! I'm not religious anyway and I like to think I'm a pretty good person without being told to be one! So yeah, hopefully things would remain the same.
Pretty much what I, and most other people am already doing. Laws are just a secular and more modern version of religion; both are just projections of human morality. If they were gone, our common sense and decency still remain (and probably the first thing we'd do is rebuild a legal code so we'd have a common interface to share that morality).
I'm an atheist and I don't really follow laws just because they're laws, most of the seem common sense afterall. I try to live by the one commandment of 'Try not to be a dick', and it seems to be working out so far.
I guess if anything I'd probably be driving faster than I am now, but that's probably it.
The Order of the Hand shall rule! The animals of the Zoo Guy Danny Usher will sustain us!!
Buy a hooker, try every drug, punch a chick, and shit in a brown paper bag and chuck it out the window. Wait, you say I can do all these already? Nevermind then, I'll just read a book.
Well, I suppose I would be somewhat happier. At least then I could stop hearing all of these pseudo intellectual arguments between two otherwise jaded, biased-as-all-fuck sides.
Then again, I'm a Buddhist. I strive for peace, and by peace I mean less bullshit I have to hear about in the mornings before I head off to class.
@SAC said:
All religion has already been proven wrong though....
Seems legit.
I'd be blasting Power from a boombox while moonwalking down the street with a backwards cap and some sweet shoes.
Oh wait, I already do that. /toocool4skool.
@SAC said:
All religion has already been proven wrong though....
oh look, its "that guy". overly smug atheist away!
I'd probably be doing the same thing I'm doing. Also I see this turning into a religious debate. And of course by "debate" I mean retarded shitstorm.
EDIT: Actually also I'd be preparing to defend myself from the dickheads who'd take advantage of the absence of law.
I'd be doing the same things I'm doing now...although I might be high, being able to buy drugs over the counter and all.
My faith is pretty core to who I am, and is essentially the only thing that has kept me going. To find it "proven wrong" isn't so much an exercise in thinking of "what am I free to do, now that I am released from the shackles of religious indoctrination" as it is a contemplation of what I would do (me, personally) with the information that there is no right or wrong, no purpose for my being, and the fact that I'm a cosmic accident. Some may be able to prosper and thrive in a world where that is the definition of life, but I don't think I would, or could.
Interesting question, OP.
Wait a minute the OP is actually saying what if nothing is true, and everything is permitted.
I'd touch people's shoulders as I walked through crowds.
@Geno said:
Pretty much what I, and most other people am already doing. Laws are just a secular and more modern version of religion; both are just projections of human morality. If they were gone, our common sense and decency still remain (and probably the first thing we'd do is rebuild a legal code so we'd have a common interface to share that morality).
What this guy said.
Also, I tend to veer towards nihilism w/r/t "the meaning of life" and any kind of normative morality. I think it's more or less a construct that we're constantly building around us to keep that nihilism from overwhelming one's self. So I guess I already live in the world OP is describing.
@SAC: That's correct; you silly little monkey.
Even in a "lawless" society, there are social norms and I imagine there would still be people punishing murderers, thieves and other people deemed dangerous.
As an atheist, I don't live by values that are strictly religious, so I'd be more worried about how my neighbours with completely altered realities would react and worry more about how I would live differently.
No scientific laws? It's all relative, and since there's nothing that is relative, then there is nothing. Everything would just seize to exist, I guess.
@CrossTheAtlantic said:
@Geno said:
Pretty much what I, and most other people am already doing. Laws are just a secular and more modern version of religion; both are just projections of human morality. If they were gone, our common sense and decency still remain (and probably the first thing we'd do is rebuild a legal code so we'd have a common interface to share that morality).What this guy said.
Also, I tend to veer towards nihilism w/r/t "the meaning of life" and any kind of normative morality. I think it's more or less a construct that we're constantly building around us to keep that nihilism from overwhelming one's self. So I guess I already live in the world OP is describing.
Would that be it? Would we reall rebuild a legal code, or give in to our selfishness, and make the world throughly more chaotic and violent?
Nihilism is interesting, because it is a natural thorn on a person's system of beliefs, as most of them are shallow enough, just constructs, like you said, to steer us away from nihilism and our fear of it. But i think nihilism is not the meaning of life. If you take away the concept of "meaning" from "meaning of life", you just get the idea of "life", and that to me is its true meaning. Living, as we want to live. Of course there are fears and a a whole sort of personal constructs to limit us in living and take the enjoyment out of it, but to me the main goal of living is experiencing live.
@Jeust said:
@CrossTheAtlantic said:
@Geno said:
Pretty much what I, and most other people am already doing. Laws are just a secular and more modern version of religion; both are just projections of human morality. If they were gone, our common sense and decency still remain (and probably the first thing we'd do is rebuild a legal code so we'd have a common interface to share that morality).What this guy said.
Also, I tend to veer towards nihilism w/r/t "the meaning of life" and any kind of normative morality. I think it's more or less a construct that we're constantly building around us to keep that nihilism from overwhelming one's self. So I guess I already live in the world OP is describing.
Would that be it? Would we reall rebuild a legal code, or give in to our selfishness, and make the world throughly more chaotic and violent?
Nihilism is interesting, because it is a natural thorn on a person's system of beliefs, as most of them are shallow enough, just constructs, like you said, to steer us away from nihilism and our fear of it. But i think nihilism is not the meaning of life. If you take away the concept of "meaning" from "meaning of life", you just get the idea of "life", and that to me is its true meaning. Living, as we want to live. Of course there are fears and a a whole sort of personal constructs to limit us in living and take the enjoyment out of it, but to me the main goal of living is experiencing live.
Well, I think we're probably in agreement here but saying it differently. For me, nihilism was/is an inescapable part of our own nature as humans due to the belief systems we've created (the purpose of life being something we've generated on our own and has subsequently caused such systems). I wouldn't say nihilism is the meaning of life because I don't think there is one. It's not so much that we can remain purely at nihilism either. That's always the constant threat of it, though: that when the world is pulled away and when "God is dead," we will be so unsettled existentially that we will choose to remain in the cave with His shadows. The task, then, is to push through that nihilism. To each, personally, move through the other side of that and embrace a worldview in which we are establishing our own place in life and where "at long last the horizon appears free to us again, even if it should not be bright." There is no meaning to life, there's, as you say, just life.
And that's just fine.
EDIT: Obviously, this is a crazy bracketed and short summary of a much longer and more in depth world-view I have that I don't really want to flood a video game website with. I have plenty of papers I could just copy+paste if that was the case. Ha. I will also readily admit that no such view is concrete (I don't think anyone should assume totalities), and it's something I'm still very much working through.
I'D BE GOING FUCKING CRAZY
Actually, no I wouldn't. I'd be trying to establish some sort of rule of law as I'm sure many others would be also. The religion part would be nice, but it wouldn't change my disposition as a person.
as far as I know you can't disprove a religion but...
just for the sake of answering your question: I would stay home and lock all my doors, because I'm sure the situation outside would be complete chaos.
Sounds a bit like the old West.
I'd do the same, just go everywhere with a gun now.
If I could fly and shoot lasers from my eyes...
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