Iranian elections

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#201  Edited By Aurelito
@idiot said:
" @Snipzor: You deserve a ton of praise. Great job with that write up!

@ashkanhoss29 said:
" Warning.  VERY graphicBasij kills innocent woman:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmi-LePl894http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrdRwOlmIxIShe wasn't even protesting! "
I am not personally religious. I'm just a regular guy who lives in Washington state.
This is genuine honesty here: I cried after watching that, and I am praying for you people. It's the only thing I know that I can do. I cannot even begin to think how to fathom how articulating with words, how I feel after looking at the images I've been seeing and watching from YouTube and online websites the past few days. The world is with you. This is not a matter of just vote fraud anymore. This regime has disgusted me, on a level that's not even remotely describable. "
Yeah do that. I can see you crying beside your bed. poor guy. hence, you can fuck yourself.

I was in Basij three years ago.  left because it was real frustrating. If they kill innocent people now, hell I'm gonna enlist again. Who hates killing a faggot?

Ps: this girl is mean gorgeous. they should rape him before cutting her vessel.
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#202  Edited By Verdugo

I love to read over threads like this, very enlightening.

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#203  Edited By Aurelito
@ashkanhoss29 said:
" Warning.  VERY graphicBasij kills innocent woman:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmi-LePl894http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrdRwOlmIxIShe wasn't even protesting! "

Why these"Basiji" guys are wearing jean pants? when Khatami was the pawn (and he's a friend of Mousavi, the guy who mayhems occur for him), basiji forces ferociously attacked Tehran's univercity and attacked students, mostly for wearing jeans. and now they wear jeans themeselves?
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#204  Edited By tmontana1004
@KaosAngel said:
" The city is going insane....I just saw videos.  This makes me feel sad to be an American.  Why didn't we do this when Bush stole the election? "
More like why aren't we doing it to Obama while he takes control of our country little by little. Socialism my friends. Seriously, wtf happened to American Nationalism?
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#205  Edited By Snipzor
@tmontana1004: Because Obama won? Because he is center-right and not "socialist" and fighting against a non-existant threat is pointless? Because American Nationalism was killed when Bush won again? Because there has been enough killing?

Any of these answers work.
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#207  Edited By RadixNegative2
@vidiot said:
" @Snipzor: You deserve a ton of praise. Great job with that write up!

@ashkanhoss29 said:
" Warning.  VERY graphicBasij kills innocent woman:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmi-LePl894http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrdRwOlmIxIShe wasn't even protesting! "
I am not personally religious. I'm just a regular guy who lives in Washington state.
This is genuine honesty here: I cried after watching that, and I am praying for you people. It's the only thing I know that I can do. I cannot even begin to think how to fathom how articulating with words, how I feel after looking at the images I've been seeing and watching from YouTube and online websites the past few days. The world is with you. This is not a matter of just vote fraud anymore. This regime has disgusted me, on a level that's not even remotely describable. "
You do not have to be religious to feel for human suffering.  You only have to be human.

Human beings are members of a whole,
In creation of one essence and soul.
If one member is afflicted with pain,
Other members uneasy will remain.
If you have no sympathy for human pain,
The name of human you cannot retain.”

- Saadi


@Aurelito: What jeans have to do with an innocent girl being murdered I do not know.
Vali man fekmekonam che to maris hasty. 
Either that or you are just some spoiled/rejected 12 year old fuck who has played too many shooters.
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#208  Edited By tmontana1004
@Snipzor said:
" @tmontana1004: Because Obama won? Because he is center-right and not "socialist" and fighting against a non-existant threat is pointless? Because American Nationalism was killed when Bush won again? Because there has been enough killing?

Any of these answers work.
"
I said that as a rebuttal, I don't think we should really be out in the streets killing, that's just pointless and won't get you anywhere. But you can't ignore the fact that the government has not only taken control of GM, but now wants to take control of credit card companies, and more importantly, GE. It seems like we are leaning more towards socialism, or communism, or whatever, every month. BTW, this isn't coming from a biased conservative, I support neither party, I am just a concerned American citizen who is nervous about the direction our country is going. Who knows, maybe Obama will do great things for this country, but right now, I don't like the way things are going.
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#209  Edited By Keyser_Soze

They're free to elect whoever they want. None of the west's business. Protests happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of protests and they'll sort themselves out.  Election fraud isn't as uncommon as you'd think, google 'diebold voting machines'.

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#210  Edited By Snipzor
@Keyser_Soze said:
" They're free to elect whomever they want. None of the west's business. Revolutions happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of revolution and they'll sort themselves out."
Tried to fix, but it is still broken.
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#211  Edited By RadixNegative2
@Keyser_Soze said:
" They're free to elect whoever they want. None of the west's business. Protests happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of protests and they'll sort themselves out.  Election fraud isn't as uncommon as you'd think, google 'diebold voting machines'. "
This is not just about an election.  It is about a government that has been suppressing its people for 30 years now.  This election was just the boiling point or a catalyst/excuse for people to stand up.  I agree 100% though that Iranians have to sort this out by themselves and that there should not be any foreign intervention.

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#212  Edited By Aurelito
@ashkanhoss29 said:
@Aurelito: What jeans have to do with an innocent girl being murdered I do not know. Vali man fekmekonam che to maris hasty.  Either that or you are just some spoiled/rejected 12 year old fuck who has played too many shooters. "
The word you're referring as "Maris" is actually "Mariz" and yeah I'm a ejaculated 12 years old fuck who suffers agnosticism and masturbates every night. go get a life, seriously.


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#214  Edited By RadixNegative2

Police/Basij beating students:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZ40d0E6Vo&feature=channel_page

Police beating students and elderly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS2taHIdHzA&feature=channel_page

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#215  Edited By Keyser_Soze
@Snipzor said:
" @Keyser_Soze said:
" They're free to elect whomever they want. None of the west's business. Revolutions happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of revolution and they'll sort themselves out."
Tried to fix, but it is still broken. "
@ashkanhoss29 said:
" @Keyser_Soze said:
" They're free to elect whoever they want. None of the west's business. Protests happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of protests and they'll sort themselves out.  Election fraud isn't as uncommon as you'd think, google 'diebold voting machines'. "
This is not just about an election.  It is about a government that has been suppressing its people for 30 years now.  This election was just the boiling point or a catalyst/excuse for people to stand up.  I agree 100% though that Iranians have to sort this out by themselves and that there should not be any foreign intervention. "
Do you guys remember a guy called Mohammad Mossadeq. He was a democratically elected leader of Iran. He wanted to nationalize the huge oil reserves and spread the wealth to the people. British Petroleum didn't like this, made up allegations that he was pro-communist and with America ousted him out of power, destroyed democracy in Iran and planted a puppet regime with the Iranian Shah. The Shah didn't care for his people and the Iranians revolted and kicked him out. The west complained that this was wrong. The only wrong thing was the west's interference in the first place.

As you sow, so shall you reap. Don't worry there will be protests in western countries when the people start feeling the effects of inflation and a reduced standard of living. Unemployment in America already is well above 10% and rising.
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#216  Edited By RadixNegative2
@Aurelito said:
" @ashkanhoss29 said:
@Aurelito: What jeans have to do with an innocent girl being murdered I do not know. Vali man fekmekonam che to maris hasty.  Either that or you are just some spoiled/rejected 12 year old fuck who has played too many shooters. "
The word you're referring as "Maris" is actually "Mariz" and yeah I'm a ejaculated 12 years old fuck who suffers agnosticism and masturbates every night. go get a life, seriously. "
I'm sorry I didnt know there were rules when it comes to writing farsi with english letters.  Also going by what you have written you definitely sound like "a ejaculated 12 years old fuck who suffers agnosticism and masturbates every night."
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#217  Edited By Keyser_Soze

The only reason why this is getting more coverage than other protests around the world, think anti-bank/globalist protests with people dying, anti-police rallies in Greece, running street battles etc, is simply they want to destabilise Iran and oust the government. Problem is the Iranians aren't anti-government, they want Mousavi in power, who himself is a moderate Islamist, yes folks he's an Islamist. Again the west is interfering and it is only going to come back and bite them in the ass.

Ron Paul says it best when he says the more America interferes in other nations, the bigger the rod they create for other nations to beat them with. More interference leads to more instability which inevitably hurts American interests.

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#218  Edited By RadixNegative2
@Keyser_Soze said:
" The only reason why this is getting more coverage than other protests around the world, think anti-bank/globalist protests with people dying, anti-police rallies in Greece, running street battles etc, is simply they want to destabilise Iran and oust the government. Problem is the Iranians aren't anti-government, they want Mousavi in power, who himself is a moderate Islamist, yes folks he's an Islamist. Again the west is interfering and it is only going to come back and bite them in the ass.Ron Paul says it best when he says the more America interferes in other nations, the bigger the rod they create for other nations to beat them with. More interference leads to more instability which inevitably hurts American interests. "
As an Iranian immigrant who has many friends and family in Iran I can definitely say that Iranians want a different government.  If you look at videos coming out of Iran these past couple of days you will see that Iranians are now saying "death to khamenei" not just to ahmedi.  But of course I agree that the West should not intervene as they did with in the past (mossadegh and Iran-Iraq war come to mind).  That will not only hurt them but Iran as well.  Thankfully Obama knows this and doesnt want to get involved.  Lets hope he continues with this attitude.
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#219  Edited By Keyser_Soze
@ashkanhoss29: I agree with you, imagine if Obama was ousted of power by the Chinese and China planted a pro-communist, atheist puppet in place who made sure he only worked for Chinese economic interests. The American people wouldn't stand for it, there'd be an armed uprising within days, and probably rightfully so.
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#220  Edited By darkspirit138
@Keyser_Soze said:
" They're free to elect whoever they want. None of the west's business. Protests happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of protests and they'll sort themselves out.  Election fraud isn't as uncommon as you'd think, google 'diebold voting machines'. "
I'm sorry, but WHAT? Outta interest, have you seen Hotel Rwanda?
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#221  Edited By darkspirit138

Also, people using Youtube videos-DONT. The videos there will be bias, therefore unreliable sources.

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#222  Edited By Keyser_Soze
@darkspirit138 said:
" @Keyser_Soze said:
" They're free to elect whoever they want. None of the west's business. Protests happen all the time around the world in many countries. Let them sort their own shit out. A few weeks of protests and they'll sort themselves out.  Election fraud isn't as uncommon as you'd think, google 'diebold voting machines'. "
I'm sorry, but WHAT? Outta interest, have you seen Hotel Rwanda? "
I haven't seen Hotel Rwanda, but I know a little thing or two about political history. Whatever happens in Iran should be for the Iranians to sort out, I guarantee you that in a few weeks time this shit will almost certainly blow over, the young generation in Iran is just a little pissed off right now.

Interference lead to the Vietnam war, Iraq war, Mossadeq being ousted and as a direct result the Iranian Revolution. I could go on and on, with many other forms of interference. What would you like another war where all Iranians will hate you? Right now there are enough problems in America, and Obama should be concentrating on those, although I'm mighty disappointed he's shoving his head up banker asses.

P.S. I'd just like to qualify that what happened in Rwanda should have been dealt with internationally, with UN peacekeeping forces stationed there temporarily and other nations should have shown more effort to quell the fighting which was being committed. Having a few people dead in protests is not the same as having over a million dead during ethnic fighting. Rwanda was a failure of the international community. I suppose there was no money to be made from Rwanda's non existent oil resources. But even then the Rwandans have sorted themselves out and picked themselves up without much support from any other nation.
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#223  Edited By vidiot
@ashkanhoss29: Thanks dude. When you see such graphic injustice, It's difficult to really not exhibit some type of emotion.

@Aurelito said:
" @idiot said:
" @Snipzor: You deserve a ton of praise. Great job with that write up!

@ashkanhoss29 said:
" Warning.  VERY graphicBasij kills innocent woman:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmi-LePl894http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrdRwOlmIxIShe wasn't even protesting! "
I am not personally religious. I'm just a regular guy who lives in Washington state.
This is genuine honesty here: I cried after watching that, and I am praying for you people. It's the only thing I know that I can do. I cannot even begin to think how to fathom how articulating with words, how I feel after looking at the images I've been seeing and watching from YouTube and online websites the past few days. The world is with you. This is not a matter of just vote fraud anymore. This regime has disgusted me, on a level that's not even remotely describable. "
Yeah do that. I can see you crying beside your bed. poor guy. hence, you can fuck yourself.I was in Basij three years ago.  left because it was real frustrating. If they kill innocent people now, hell I'm gonna enlist again. Who hates killing a faggot? Ps: this girl is mean gorgeous. they should rape him before cutting her vessel. "
Am I reading this right? Happy to kill kill innocent people so your going to enlist? Who hates killing a faggot? Congrats on being mentally sick I guess.