Jullian Assange ARRESTED IN LONDON

I very much doubt he'll be extradited to the US, the warrant is a European warrant and Sweden have asked for him to be extradited to Sweden. The rape allegations will not be forgotten now by the US, that is precisely what they want to get him on. If the US get publicly and directly involved by trying to charge Assange with anything related to Wikileaks and by having him extradited to the US they just increase support for Assange and heighten scrutiny on themselves. What they want to do is discredit him, whilst keeping themselves clean. I'm sure the US will be highly involved in trying to make sure Sweden convict him behind the scenes though.

I have been to London this weekend and I can attest that Julian Assange personally assaulted me sexually.

assange is no criminal. the governments of america, england, etc trying to put him in jail are the real criminals.

WHAT IS WIKILEAKS!?
I keep hearing about it but have no idea what it is. Just googled it but it's down.

" Just googled it but it's down. "

" I have been to London this weekend and I can attest that Julian Assange personally assaulted me sexually. "

" @GunslingerPanda said:

" Just googled it but it's down. "

*facepalm* "

" WHAT IS WIKILEAKS!? I keep hearing about it but have no idea what it is. Just googled it but it's down. "

" @WinterSnowblind said:

" @MooseyMcMan said:

" Good.  "

Because someone who's done nothing illegal has been arrested on phony charges? Care to elaborate? "

You know he didn't rape a girl? I guess since he's your hero now he's infallible. You know Assange doesn't fully deny the charges, right? I guess you don't know. The theme itt is people not knowing much about the subject matter. "

" @WinterSnowblind said:

" @MooseyMcMan said:

" Good.  "

Because someone who's done nothing illegal has been arrested on phony charges? Care to elaborate? "

You know he didn't rape a girl? I guess since he's your hero now he's infallible. You know Assange doesn't fully deny the charges, right? I guess you don't know. The theme itt is people not knowing much about the subject matter. "

" @GunslingerPanda said:

" WHAT IS WIKILEAKS!? I keep hearing about it but have no idea what it is. Just googled it but it's down. "

Wikileaks "

" @zudthespud said:

" It doesn't really matter if they put Assange away, Wikileaks won't die.   I love the irony of politicians in America speaking out against their own constitution. They can argue against the ethics of it all they want, Wikileaks has not broken the law in the US. When politicians and commentators say things like "every American should be insulted at the leaks" it insults every American and the American constitution. They are just Fascists. "

Um no dude. Espionage is pretty clearly a crime. Do a half second of research. We have a pretty infamous prison or two full of non-americans in holding. You guys seem to think since he's not American that somehow makes him safer. No, it kind of means the CIA can just snipe him if they want. No trial, no due process. "

Well they arrested the founder...which means NOTHING.  Do they really think arresting him would be the end of wikileaks?

sadly Jack Ruby is gonna get him.

It's not a conspiracy.  HE RAPED ME!  I think...

" @hunkaburningluv: dude there's supposedly some secret alien files locked away in there... "

Listen I don't mean to interrupt your fellowship or whatever the fuck you think having solidarity with this man gets you, but his last leak isn't "harmless". People will die. I appreciate how confident you are in your assertions that nothing will happen but with all do deference, you don't know anything. You're just some guy. You can sit around and say "well people will die but its for the best because it destroys America hurhur", and you can wear Che Guevarra esc Assange shirts and turn this asshole into the hero you want him to be by concocting conspiracy theories around his rape allegations but he will have blood on his hands because of this last leak. Call yourself a truthseeker if you want, every clown in town thinks they're that.
  

" @ape_dosmil said:

" @GunslingerPanda said:

" WHAT IS WIKILEAKS!? I keep hearing about it but have no idea what it is. Just googled it but it's down. "

Wikileaks "

Thanks.  So it's just a news site? And everyone's making a fuss over it?  I feel out of touch with reality right now. "

"you don't know anything. You're just some guy."

" Listen I don't mean to interrupt your fellowship or whatever the fuck you think having solidarity with this man gets you, but his last leak isn't "harmless". People will die. I appreciate how confident you are in your assertions that nothing will happen but with all do deference, you don't know anything. You're just some guy. You can sit around and say "well people will die but its for the best because it destroys America hurhur", and you can wear Che Guevarra esc Assange shirts and turn this asshole into the hero you want him to be by concocting conspiracy theories around his rape allegations but he will have blood on his hands because of this last leak. Call yourself a truthseeker if you want, every clown in town thinks they're that.
  

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" Listen I don't mean to interrupt your fellowship or whatever the fuck you think having solidarity with this man gets you, but his last leak isn't "harmless". People will die. I appreciate how confident you are in your assertions that nothing will happen but with all do deference, you don't know anything. You're just some guy. You can sit around and say "well people will die but its for the best because it destroys America hurhur", and you can wear Che Guevarra esc Assange shirts and turn this asshole into the hero you want him to be by concocting conspiracy theories around his rape allegations but he will have blood on his hands because of this last leak. Call yourself a truthseeker if you want, every clown in town thinks they're that.
  

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" @ryanwho said:

"you don't know anything. You're just some guy."

Neither do you so don't pretend you somehow know more than others.  Also, innocent people died because of your government! Where is your uproar about that and who is charging them? "

Personally, I think the guy is kind of an ass. Also, I know almost no one is going to agree with me on this, but I don't really think these documents and stuff should be released to the public. I don't really know what's in most of them, but I think I have a decent idea from what little I've seen. I think that if the government doesn't want the public to know this stuff, then there's probably a good reason for it. So what if the government is doing somewhat sneaky things that many would disapprove of? Isn't that what the government has always done?  
 
Personally, I don't really care what the government has to do in order to keep the country safe, and if there are documents that reveal things that are only going to make the public angry, then they should remain not-publicly disclosed. 
 
Also, let me reiterate that I do not know the exact contents of these documents. I read about one that said something about Karzai (leader of Afghanistan) pardoning some dudes for drug related charges. That's all I know. So please, don't go saying things like, "You haven't seen the documents, you don't know what you're talking about." I realize this. I also think that the governments of the world have better things to do than to respond to people that complain about things like this, and I think that so long as this guy is going about, this is only going to happen again.  
 
Also, I don't know everything about the other charges he's facing (you know, the sexual assault and/or rape or whatever), but I'm inclined to think that those are legit, because the guy seems like a smarmy asshole to me.  

" So what if the government is doing somewhat sneaky things that many would disapprove of?"

@MooseyMcMan

"Personally, I don't really care what the government has to do in order to keep the country safe "

"and I think that so long as this guy is going about, this is only going to happen again.

@MooseyMcMan

"  Also, I don't know everything about the other charges he's facing (you know, the sexual assault and/or rape or whatever), but I'm inclined to think that those are legit, because the guy seems like a smarmy asshole to me.   "

It's hilarious how people say "WIKILEAKS IS PUTTING LIVES AT RISK!" when america's backroom meddling, military intervention and double crossing diplomacy has earned it dozens of enemies and conflicts around the world.
 
I guess it's okay to ignore america knowingly selling crappy equipment to it's allies and other friendly nations while lying about their quality OR america secretly arming insurgent groups around the world to destabilize regions OR ignoring armed groups and failing to act to prevent massacres with troops stationed in the area OR treating the U.N. as trash, ignoring it and going to war in the middle east as well as trying to steal vital information from it OR performing secret drone attacks in Yemen and killing civilians in the process while deflecting blame to the local government OR really any from the hundreds upon hundreds of shady schemes and foreign policy plans america likes to keep between it's legs.
 
Just don't mention any of this out loud or ELSE YOU ARE GONNA GET IT!

"Personally, I don't really care what the government has to do in order to keep the country safe, and if there are documents that reveal things that are only going to make the public angry, then they should remain not-publicly disclosed."

" Personally, I think the guy is kind of an ass. Also, I know almost no one is going to agree with me on this, but I don't really think these documents and stuff should be released to the public. I don't really know what's in most of them, but I think I have a decent idea from what little I've seen. I think that if the government doesn't want the public to know this stuff, then there's probably a good reason for it. So what if the government is doing somewhat sneaky things that many would disapprove of? Isn't that what the government has always done?   Personally, I don't really care what the government has to do in order to keep the country safe, and if there are documents that reveal things that are only going to make the public angry, then they should remain not-publicly disclosed.  Also, let me reiterate that I do not know the exact contents of these documents. I read about one that said something about Karzai (leader of Afghanistan) pardoning some dudes for drug related charges. That's all I know. So please, don't go saying things like, "You haven't seen the documents, you don't know what you're talking about." I realize this. I also think that the governments of the world have better things to do than to respond to people that complain about things like this, and I think that so long as this guy is going about, this is only going to happen again.   Also, I don't know everything about the other charges he's facing (you know, the sexual assault and/or rape or whatever), but I'm inclined to think that those are legit, because the guy seems like a smarmy asshole to me.   "

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

" @Doctorchimp said:

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

What I'm saying is that the government will operate better and more smoothly if the general public doesn't know every last thing that is going on.

" @Doctorchimp said:

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

What I'm saying is that the government will operate better and more smoothly if the general public doesn't know every last thing that is going on. No, not everything they do is motivated by that, and I'm sure that a lot of it is motivated by nothing more than politicians wanting to make a profit, but I think things go a lot more smoothly if people don't know about these things.   Whatever happened to the good old days when people supported their government, instead of questioning their every move? What's wrong with being a little patriotic, and showing some support for my government?  "

" @Doctorchimp said:

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

What I'm saying is that the government will operate better and more smoothly if the general public doesn't know every last thing that is going on. "

" @CptBedlam:  I'd rather the government not do things like that, but if the alternative is innocent Americans dying, then yes. I love my country, and I feel that America needs to do what is in the best interest of America, and not what's best for everyone else. I know this makes me seem like an asshole (and I'm not going to lie, I am one), but whatever.  
 

" @Doctorchimp said:

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

  Whatever happened to the good old days when people supported their government, instead of questioning their every move? What's wrong with being a little patriotic, and showing some support for my government?  "

" @Doctorchimp said:

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

What I'm saying is that the government will operate better and more smoothly if the general public doesn't know every last thing that is going on. No, not everything they do is motivated by that, and I'm sure that a lot of it is motivated by nothing more than politicians wanting to make a profit, but I think things go a lot more smoothly if people don't know about these things.   Whatever happened to the good old days when people supported their government, instead of questioning their every move? What's wrong with being a little patriotic, and showing some support for my government?  "

Wasn't he wanted for the sex crimes before the whole wikileaks stuff?

I don't know why I got into this, MooseyMcMan has to be a troll.

" Wasn't he wanted for the sex crimes before the whole wikileaks stuff? "

" Wasn't he wanted for the sex crimes before the whole wikileaks stuff? "

" @Doctorchimp said:

" @MooseyMcMan: You honestly believe everything the US is doing overseas is to make sure your ass is saved? Every action is only motivated by that?  You are sorely mistaken my friend. "

What I'm saying is that the government will operate better and more smoothly if the general public doesn't know every last thing that is going on. No, not everything they do is motivated by that, and I'm sure that a lot of it is motivated by nothing more than politicians wanting to make a profit, but I think things go a lot more smoothly if people don't know about these things.   Whatever happened to the good old days when people supported their government, instead of questioning their every move? What's wrong with being a little patriotic, and showing some support for my government?  "

I guess most of the posters here are not aware of the sort of information that wikileaks has revealed so far with its publishing of cablegate. One important piece of information revealed through cablegate has been a secret deal made between U.S. and U.K. to allow U.S. to keep its cluster bombs in the U.K. in spite of there being munitions ban signed by Gordon Brown himself. 
 
I have seen several news shows where people have argued that these sorts of backroom deals are a diplomatic tactic that  have always existed and wikileaks is throwing a wrench into this age old political machine by leaking confidential information. But people arguing this point fail to see that making secret deals is not a kind of diplomatic tactic but a sign of political corruption. Democratic governments have no right to publicly declare something to be illegal and then allow government officials to find loopholes around the laws that they themselves passed.

" Wasn't he wanted for the sex crimes before the whole wikileaks stuff? "

" Wow the international community sure are committed to pursuing people accused of rape. I assume they're going to spend the same resources on every potential assault case from now on?   "