LulzSec hacks Bethesda/Zenimax - is this getting old yet?

You know, just a heads up in case they DO decide to leak user data (though I'm not sure from what - forum logins or newsletters, perhaps) you might want to change your password.

EDIT: Looks like they have some kind of Brink user list. Do you even need to make an account for that? Hell if I know, haven't played it myself.

EDIT EDIT: Bethesda responds:

Over the past weekend, a hacker group attempted an unlawful intrusion of our websites to gain access to data. We believe we have taken appropriate action to protect our data against these attacks. While no personal financial information or credit card data was obtained, the hackers may have gained access to some user names, email addresses, and/or passwords. As a precaution, we recommend that all our fans immediately change passwords on all our sites — including our community forums and the statistics site we maintain for Brink players.
If your username/email address/password is similar to what you use on other sites, we recommend changing the password at those sites as well. As we don’t know what further plans the hackers may have, we suggest that you keep an eye out for suspicious emails and account activity.
We regret any inconvenience that these attacks on us cause for you. These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent

Wikileaks minus cultural relevance=Lulzsec

Wikileaks minus cultural relevance=Lulzsec

god damn, this is ridiculous. 

@ryanwho said:

Wikileaks minus cultural relevance=Lulzsec

That's stupid. Wikileaks didn't hack a thing. Wikileaks is just a repository for donated documentation.

Now Lulzsec is asking for more info on skyrim otherwise they'll release the user data.

Fucking douchebags.

I'm not sure about the log in thing. I can't even remember myself

The more they hack, the higher the chance they get caught.... right?

They're shaking down Bethesda for info on Skyrim. 
That's low.

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

@ryanwho said:

Wikileaks minus cultural relevance=Lulzsec

That's stupid. Wikileaks didn't hack a thing. Wikileaks is just a repository for donated documentation.

Hacking every single website and stealing user data for the sake of stealing it is getting super old.

Little kids

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Guess it's EA and Activision's turn soon then?

These guys are flipping morons...seriously. I'm getting tired of hearing how they've "hacked" into someone else's junk. Is there any real evidence that they have, or are they just claming something they can't really back up? -honest question-.  I really want these fools to have their arses caught and either locked up, or fined a pretty hefty amount, just to teach them a lesson...> _ >'' 

@CandiBunni: They'll publish things later today. They seem to have a pretty solid track record of doing exactly what they say they're doing, so there's no reason not to believe them. As much as I hate giving them more attention, it's important for people to know if their information is at risk in case they need to change passwords or whatever.

Holding data hostage unless they get Skyrim info. It is like a hostage situation. What will they want next, a plane?

Hack something worthwhile. Jeez.

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

I can see people shaking their finger sternly at the companies for not using good security measures, but you really want to put the blame on the victim (yes they are the victim of a crime). I'd write out a simile, but people don't like when you compare a cyber crime with a real one even though they are compared equally and it makes sense (I think that's what scares those people).

Oh no, a Brink user list.  You mean 10 people?  

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

I can see people shaking their finger sternly at the companies for not using good security measures, but you really want to put the blame on the victim (yes they are the victim of a crime). I'd make write out a simile, but people don't like when you compare a cyber crime with a real one even though they are compared equally and it makes sense (I think that's what scares those people).

@SeriouslyNow said:

@ryanwho said:

Wikileaks minus cultural relevance=Lulzsec

That's stupid. Wikileaks didn't hack a thing. Wikileaks is just a repository for donated documentation.

You're right, they're not identical. Things have to be identical to be compared. Thanks for setting me straight.

Seriously? Holding user info ransom for more info on Skyrim?

And I thought I was a total nerd. If this was elementary school I'd be hustling lulzsec for lunch money. But then stopping because they'd be allergic to paper, or oxygen or something. Peanut butter too.

So they realized they were kidding themselves when they said this was the end for Sony, and they're pretty ass-hurt about that.

I'm usually not one to condone violence, but I feel like there is a number of people who need a good punch in the face.

@jams said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

I can see people shaking their finger sternly at the companies for not using good security measures, but you really want to put the blame on the victim (yes they are the victim of a crime). I'd make write out a simile, but people don't like when you compare a cyber crime with a real one even though they are compared equally and it makes sense (I think that's what scares those people).

Indeed. Not being an expert (and not being privy to the kind of information necessary to make useful comments if I even was), I can only say there's so much you can blame these companies for.

Bad security might leave you wide open, but when a thug who's good at being a thug takes aim at you, he may find a seam somewhere regardless.

Great, they finally hit someplace that it actually affects me. 

@ryanwho said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@ryanwho said:

Wikileaks minus cultural relevance=Lulzsec

That's stupid. Wikileaks didn't hack a thing. Wikileaks is just a repository for donated documentation.

You're right, they're not identical. Things have to be identical to be compared. Thanks for setting me straight.

Don't be specious dude. You know I didn't mean that. They don't relate at all aside from some cultural relevance via FOX New thinking of 'all evols of the innertubez'

@jams said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

I can see people shaking their finger sternly at the companies for not using good security measures, but you really want to put the blame on the victim (yes they are the victim of a crime). I'd make write out a simile, but people don't like when you compare a cyber crime with a real one even though they are compared equally and it makes sense (I think that's what scares those people).

Before this turns into another debate about how "it's 100% the hackers fault because they're committing the crime", and "the company is responsible for having so little respect for their consumers by having no or pathetic security", and then comparisons to banks, not blaming the robbers, yeah but they left the vault open, can we all just shut the fuck up and agree that both parties are to blame? This isn't exactly like a rape situation and saying the girl was asking for it - this is private data that should have ample security. And the reason it should have it, is because there are people who will commit this intrusions and that's an unfortunate fact of life. 
 
Right. Settled? 
  

@Jeffsekai said: 

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

The hackers themselves are to say. They're saying, at least in most cases, that the security was pathetic and easily overriden. Given that most of these people do this stuff for nothing more than the glory of success, I see no reason why they would lie and make it sound easier than it was.

I was bored of it from the first instance. Lulzsec are just attention whores.

This shit got old a few months ago...

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

The hackers themselves are to say. They're saying, at least in most cases, that the security was pathetic and easily overriden. Given that most of these people do this stuff for nothing more than the glory of success, I see no reason why they would lie and make it sound easier than it was.

At this point what is considered easy for them? For all we know they are some of the best hackers or at least know a lot about this one subject, of course they are going to say it was hella easy regardless if it was or not.

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

The hackers themselves are to say. They're saying, at least in most cases, that the security was pathetic and easily overriden. Given that most of these people do this stuff for nothing more than the glory of success, I see no reason why they would lie and make it sound easier than it was.

At this point what is considered easy for them? For all we know they are some of the best hackers or at least know a lot about this one subject, of course they are going to say it was hella easy regardless if it was or not.

Yep. Sick of this. http://www.destructoid.com/bethesda-confirms-brink-site-hacked-personal-info-risked-203668.phtml

@Jeffsekai said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

The hackers themselves are to say. They're saying, at least in most cases, that the security was pathetic and easily overriden. Given that most of these people do this stuff for nothing more than the glory of success, I see no reason why they would lie and make it sound easier than it was.

At this point what is considered easy for them? For all we know they are some of the best hackers or at least know a lot about this one subject, of course they are going to say it was hella easy regardless if it was or not.

I didn't mean easy in a subjective term, I meant easy as in security measures that are a complete joke. The kind that most hackers would actually be embarrassed to admit they hacked, because it's like being proud of robbing candy from a baby.  Like SQL injections for example. A complete joke. Literally anyone could do it.

On the upside, everyone now gets a free Brink map!!! 
 
..anyone? 
 
EDIT: can LulzSec face any kind of legal ramifications from all of this? At some point, aren't companies going to start pressuring Twitter for info?

By the time they do get caught...gonna be the point where no one gives a shit and basically say "Lulzsec who?" Seriously...its getting old and stop posting about them. Lulzsec = media for the trolls to post on gaming forums (not saying the OP is a troll..just stating what's going on last couple months). Seriously, how many new posts we need just for Lulzsec hacks on GB forums?

Does this affect their insider sites as well?

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

The hackers themselves are to say. They're saying, at least in most cases, that the security was pathetic and easily overriden. Given that most of these people do this stuff for nothing more than the glory of success, I see no reason why they would lie and make it sound easier than it was.

At this point what is considered easy for them? For all we know they are some of the best hackers or at least know a lot about this one subject, of course they are going to say it was hella easy regardless if it was or not.

I didn't mean easy in a subjective term, I meant easy as in security measures that are a complete joke. The kind that most hackers would actually be embarrassed to admit they hacked, because it's like being proud of robbing candy from a baby.  Like SQL injections for example. A complete joke. Literally anyone could do it.

It's hard to say when it comes to that stuff. We will never know what really went down, other then that it was not enough to keep the hackers out. That to me is what has me worried. Whether it's incompetence/hubris on part of these governments and companies or if there are a group of people out there so talented at this stuff that nothing is safe from being hacked it's a scary idea.

@crusader8463 said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@Jeffsekai said:

@crusader8463 said:

At some point I think these companies need to be blamed for all these dam things. The fact that all of these companies have put so little security on our personal data is really pathetic.

Who's to say they don't have good security? Not all hackers are script kiddies.

The hackers themselves are to say. They're saying, at least in most cases, that the security was pathetic and easily overriden. Given that most of these people do this stuff for nothing more than the glory of success, I see no reason why they would lie and make it sound easier than it was.

At this point what is considered easy for them? For all we know they are some of the best hackers or at least know a lot about this one subject, of course they are going to say it was hella easy regardless if it was or not.

I didn't mean easy in a subjective term, I meant easy as in security measures that are a complete joke. The kind that most hackers would actually be embarrassed to admit they hacked, because it's like being proud of robbing candy from a baby. Like SQL injections for example. A complete joke. Literally anyone could do it.

It's hard to say when it comes to that stuff. We will never know what really went down, other then that it was not enough to keep the hackers out. That to me is what has me worried. Whether it's incompetence/hubris on part of these governments and companies or if there are a group of people out there so talented at this stuff that nothing is safe from being hacked it's a scary idea.

The first thing they taught me in my Securities Vulnerabilities class was nothing is ever 100% secure, hackers will always find a way to get in.

These guys need girlfriends.

@Khadyn said:

By the time they do get caught...gonna be the point where no one gives a shit and basically say "Lulzsec who?" Seriously...its getting old and stop posting about them. Lulzsec = media for the trolls to post on gaming forums (not saying the OP is a troll..just stating what's going on last couple months). Seriously, how many new posts we need just for Lulzsec hacks on GB forums?

I'm aware that posting on forums gives them more attention, but I still think it's important for people to know because if they've signed up for the Brink stats site or Bethesda community forums then their information is at risk. Unfortunately the side effect of raising awareness is giving them more attention.

They are basically digging a deeper hole each time.

@Chirag4 said:

These guys need girlfriends.

What if their girlfriends were also hackers?

These guys are clearly just idiots, not really doing it for fun, just about any game studio will rather go after them legally & not cave into their stupid demands. Frankly waiting for the FBI or other groups to nail these hacker idiots as they seem to have nothing to contribute & with the recent hacking issues with Sony, the gaming studios/community is rather tired of it all & more likely to turn the hackers in than support them. 
 
Did these stupid hackers not learn anything from what went on with Half Life2 where the hackers weren't helping & delaying things longer?

These guys need girlfriends.