Music of 2008: In Flames - A Sense of Purpose

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Over the next while I'm going to be periodically posting individual entries analyzing all of the albums I listened to last year.  Granted there are a few releases from 2008 whose existence I did not even discover until this year, but I will most likely include those later on, since release during 2008 is really the only criteria necessary.  Essentially what I am doing is giving my long-overdue analysis of all the music I have which was released last year.

I don't really have any particular order set in motion, and I will most likely pick albums at random.  This way it gives me more time to re-listen to everything I may not have heard in full for some time.  Once I feel like I've covered all the albums I feel like are worth mentioning I will post a summary of them all and will most likely rank them in some form, or at least give my top 3 or 5 favourites.

One last thing I'd like to point out is that different music appeals to different people, and everyone has a different taste in music.  I consider myself to be pretty open minded so you may be surprised as to the variance of things you will see me posting about over the next little while.  I would also like to ask people that they keep their personal musical preferences and biases to themselves.  If you hate band X, or genre X, that's fine, but please keep it to yourself.  If you have no interest in the band or genre I am talking about at the time then don't read it, and don't comment.  If you have something constructive to say then feel free to add something, but I'm in no mood to tolerate garbage posts on this subject.

So without further ado, I give you...

In Flames - A Sense of Purpose

01. The Mirror's Truth
02. Disconnected
03. Sleepless Again
04. Alias
05. I'm the Highway
06. Delight and Angers
07. Move Through Me
08. The Chosen Pessimist
09. Sober and Irrelevant
10. Condemned
11. Drenched in Fear
12. March to the Shore

Bold = My personal favourite tracks from this album.

If you're an old school In Flames fan then it seems like it would be pretty easy for you to hate this album through and through without ever giving it a second glance.  See, if you're unacquainted with In Flames, they basically started out as one of the original Melodic Death Metal bands who essentially played a huge role in creating the genre.  The issue a lot of older fans have with In Flames is that around the time frame that they released Reroute to Remain they had somewhat drastically changed their style from standard melodic death metal and started experimenting.  The most noticeable change is the singing style used by lead singer Anders Fridén which went from your standard melodeath growling to something that is a bit harder to classify.  However, In Flames began adding clean vocals, and a bit more of a "screaming" style of singing than the growling style you typically hear in melodeath bands.  Essentially this has made In Flames themselves a bit harder to classify these days since they don't really follow the rules of what it means to be a melodic death metal band, and in a sense have almost created their own genre of metal... again.

Needless to say, if you can't tell from the album name and the track titles, A Sense of Purpose deals pretty heavily with personal struggles and introspective themes, so if you generally have no interest in this sort of stuff you will most likely find this album pretty intolerable.  For me however, this album came at a pretty good time of my life.  I had been in a bit of a rut when this came out and I felt pretty unmotivated in general, and for a long time I found it pretty easy to relate to this album.  Now I don't want people to think I'm getting all "emo" or something here because quite frankly I think that term in general is horribly misused and I don't really see anything wrong with emotionally expressive music either.  Isn't all music emotional in the first place? Anyway, the lyrical themes on this album are pretty similar through all of the songs dealing with feelings of inadequacy, hostility, aggression, melancholy, bitterness, bleakness, malevolence... you get the idea.  It can be kind of intense and overwhelming almost, but there's definitely no hiding the feeling of this album since it's pretty strong from the get-go.

The album opens with The Mirror's Truth, which was the first single from the album.  It then goes on for a few more tracks all of which are fairly solid, my favourites from the first half being Disconnected and Sleepless Again.  Disconnected can initially come across as an "emo" song due to the lyrical passage

I feel like shit
But at least I feel something

However Anders Fridén had the following to say about the song:

"When I'm in a tour bus, people can't see me but I can see them, and I see so many sad faces. People go from A to B without trying to break out of that routine, and sometimes I see people like that I want to know what they're thinking. I need to feel alive and sometimes it seems like other people dont feel that way."

Disconnected can come across as a bit simple at first, but lyrically it's a pretty powerful song with this knowledge in hand.

Sleepless Again also deals with some powerful lyrical content, much like the rest of the album, but is especially noticeable due to it's use or powerful vocal harmonies and extremely melodic guitars resonating throughout.  All that said, for me the album really, really picks up at just about halfway through with Delight and Angers.  What happens with Delight and Angers is that the album goes on a stretch of significant consistency through several extremely good tracks.  Move Through Me is an excellent follow-up, which leads into my personal highlight of the album, the +8 minute ballad "The Chosen Pessimist".  This song has an incredibly slow build up with clean vocals that from my perspective resemble Thom Yorke at times, which then leads into an extremely intense final two minutes of powerful instrumentals and a extremely passionate vocal performance which is quite breathtaking actually.  The song's lyrics are pretty deep, and come across as someone stuck in the sense that they can't make a decision between two sides and has essentially become a pessimist feeling that they never will make the right the decision. This is a pretty unusual song for In Flames, so again some people might really hate this song, but I think this is one of those tracks that is more easily digestible by newcomers, or more open-minded listeners.  I mean no offense, but metalheads aren't exactly the most open-minded people when it comes to music.  After the epic 8 minute ballad In Flames give no time to let things wind back down again, and instantly get back into the frantic metal people are expecting with Sober and Irrelevant.  In in these later few songs where there are actually several moments of death growls that will probably put a smile on older fan's faces, but they also make these last few songs feel pretty heavy, especially Condemned which is easily the most brutal and menacing song on the album.

Another personal favourite of mine is found in "Drenched in Fear", which contains a lyrical passage that I quite enjoyed.

I refuse to let you steal my delight
Barely awake, but it strengthens my night rage
I've seen you kill many dreams
But I've got brand new armor,
Any weapons are way out of reach

How does it feel to be demolished?
Vaporized into thin air
Strange new feeling to be nothing

I find this particular passage meaningful because my own perception of the song is that it's about people who try to bring you down/abuse you and the person in the song has overcome them to the point where what they are doing no longer effects them.  The second passage is probably my favourite part though, since it comes across as if he's asking the abuser how it feels to be made to feel nothing which is something they've been doing to others for a long time.

Finally, the album ends with "March to the Shore" which is a pretty powerful album closer, dealing with a theme that seems to be insanity from my view, but it's hard to interpret exactly what it could be.  Needless to say, the entire album is full of extremely melodic guitar, and powerful vocal harmonies, to create a really entertaining listening experience.  This album definitely is not for everyone and I wouldn't call it In Flames best album either, but to be honest I don't think I could even chose a "best album" at this point.  That being said, if you're looking for an album that deals with some interesting introspective and emotional themes you'll probably enjoy this if metal is a genre you can tolerate.  A Sense of Purpose was easily one of my favourite albums from 2008, and I have read some people be really harsh on this album but meh... I really liked it so I say give it a listen with an open mind, there are a ton of great songs on here... you may find yourself pleasantly surprised... this album is definitely a grower.

Note: I haven't decided whether or not I am going to give the albums ratings, but if I do they will be saved for the final blog post summarizing all of the albums I've talked about.  For now I'd rather people read this, potentially listen to the album and then make up their own mind about it based on the text, and the content of the album rather than a faceless number associated with the text.

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#1  Edited By KnightsofRound

Over the next while I'm going to be periodically posting individual entries analyzing all of the albums I listened to last year.  Granted there are a few releases from 2008 whose existence I did not even discover until this year, but I will most likely include those later on, since release during 2008 is really the only criteria necessary.  Essentially what I am doing is giving my long-overdue analysis of all the music I have which was released last year.

I don't really have any particular order set in motion, and I will most likely pick albums at random.  This way it gives me more time to re-listen to everything I may not have heard in full for some time.  Once I feel like I've covered all the albums I feel like are worth mentioning I will post a summary of them all and will most likely rank them in some form, or at least give my top 3 or 5 favourites.

One last thing I'd like to point out is that different music appeals to different people, and everyone has a different taste in music.  I consider myself to be pretty open minded so you may be surprised as to the variance of things you will see me posting about over the next little while.  I would also like to ask people that they keep their personal musical preferences and biases to themselves.  If you hate band X, or genre X, that's fine, but please keep it to yourself.  If you have no interest in the band or genre I am talking about at the time then don't read it, and don't comment.  If you have something constructive to say then feel free to add something, but I'm in no mood to tolerate garbage posts on this subject.

So without further ado, I give you...

In Flames - A Sense of Purpose

01. The Mirror's Truth
02. Disconnected
03. Sleepless Again
04. Alias
05. I'm the Highway
06. Delight and Angers
07. Move Through Me
08. The Chosen Pessimist
09. Sober and Irrelevant
10. Condemned
11. Drenched in Fear
12. March to the Shore

Bold = My personal favourite tracks from this album.

If you're an old school In Flames fan then it seems like it would be pretty easy for you to hate this album through and through without ever giving it a second glance.  See, if you're unacquainted with In Flames, they basically started out as one of the original Melodic Death Metal bands who essentially played a huge role in creating the genre.  The issue a lot of older fans have with In Flames is that around the time frame that they released Reroute to Remain they had somewhat drastically changed their style from standard melodic death metal and started experimenting.  The most noticeable change is the singing style used by lead singer Anders Fridén which went from your standard melodeath growling to something that is a bit harder to classify.  However, In Flames began adding clean vocals, and a bit more of a "screaming" style of singing than the growling style you typically hear in melodeath bands.  Essentially this has made In Flames themselves a bit harder to classify these days since they don't really follow the rules of what it means to be a melodic death metal band, and in a sense have almost created their own genre of metal... again.

Needless to say, if you can't tell from the album name and the track titles, A Sense of Purpose deals pretty heavily with personal struggles and introspective themes, so if you generally have no interest in this sort of stuff you will most likely find this album pretty intolerable.  For me however, this album came at a pretty good time of my life.  I had been in a bit of a rut when this came out and I felt pretty unmotivated in general, and for a long time I found it pretty easy to relate to this album.  Now I don't want people to think I'm getting all "emo" or something here because quite frankly I think that term in general is horribly misused and I don't really see anything wrong with emotionally expressive music either.  Isn't all music emotional in the first place? Anyway, the lyrical themes on this album are pretty similar through all of the songs dealing with feelings of inadequacy, hostility, aggression, melancholy, bitterness, bleakness, malevolence... you get the idea.  It can be kind of intense and overwhelming almost, but there's definitely no hiding the feeling of this album since it's pretty strong from the get-go.

The album opens with The Mirror's Truth, which was the first single from the album.  It then goes on for a few more tracks all of which are fairly solid, my favourites from the first half being Disconnected and Sleepless Again.  Disconnected can initially come across as an "emo" song due to the lyrical passage

I feel like shit
But at least I feel something

However Anders Fridén had the following to say about the song:

"When I'm in a tour bus, people can't see me but I can see them, and I see so many sad faces. People go from A to B without trying to break out of that routine, and sometimes I see people like that I want to know what they're thinking. I need to feel alive and sometimes it seems like other people dont feel that way."

Disconnected can come across as a bit simple at first, but lyrically it's a pretty powerful song with this knowledge in hand.

Sleepless Again also deals with some powerful lyrical content, much like the rest of the album, but is especially noticeable due to it's use or powerful vocal harmonies and extremely melodic guitars resonating throughout.  All that said, for me the album really, really picks up at just about halfway through with Delight and Angers.  What happens with Delight and Angers is that the album goes on a stretch of significant consistency through several extremely good tracks.  Move Through Me is an excellent follow-up, which leads into my personal highlight of the album, the +8 minute ballad "The Chosen Pessimist".  This song has an incredibly slow build up with clean vocals that from my perspective resemble Thom Yorke at times, which then leads into an extremely intense final two minutes of powerful instrumentals and a extremely passionate vocal performance which is quite breathtaking actually.  The song's lyrics are pretty deep, and come across as someone stuck in the sense that they can't make a decision between two sides and has essentially become a pessimist feeling that they never will make the right the decision. This is a pretty unusual song for In Flames, so again some people might really hate this song, but I think this is one of those tracks that is more easily digestible by newcomers, or more open-minded listeners.  I mean no offense, but metalheads aren't exactly the most open-minded people when it comes to music.  After the epic 8 minute ballad In Flames give no time to let things wind back down again, and instantly get back into the frantic metal people are expecting with Sober and Irrelevant.  In in these later few songs where there are actually several moments of death growls that will probably put a smile on older fan's faces, but they also make these last few songs feel pretty heavy, especially Condemned which is easily the most brutal and menacing song on the album.

Another personal favourite of mine is found in "Drenched in Fear", which contains a lyrical passage that I quite enjoyed.

I refuse to let you steal my delight
Barely awake, but it strengthens my night rage
I've seen you kill many dreams
But I've got brand new armor,
Any weapons are way out of reach

How does it feel to be demolished?
Vaporized into thin air
Strange new feeling to be nothing

I find this particular passage meaningful because my own perception of the song is that it's about people who try to bring you down/abuse you and the person in the song has overcome them to the point where what they are doing no longer effects them.  The second passage is probably my favourite part though, since it comes across as if he's asking the abuser how it feels to be made to feel nothing which is something they've been doing to others for a long time.

Finally, the album ends with "March to the Shore" which is a pretty powerful album closer, dealing with a theme that seems to be insanity from my view, but it's hard to interpret exactly what it could be.  Needless to say, the entire album is full of extremely melodic guitar, and powerful vocal harmonies, to create a really entertaining listening experience.  This album definitely is not for everyone and I wouldn't call it In Flames best album either, but to be honest I don't think I could even chose a "best album" at this point.  That being said, if you're looking for an album that deals with some interesting introspective and emotional themes you'll probably enjoy this if metal is a genre you can tolerate.  A Sense of Purpose was easily one of my favourite albums from 2008, and I have read some people be really harsh on this album but meh... I really liked it so I say give it a listen with an open mind, there are a ton of great songs on here... you may find yourself pleasantly surprised... this album is definitely a grower.

Note: I haven't decided whether or not I am going to give the albums ratings, but if I do they will be saved for the final blog post summarizing all of the albums I've talked about.  For now I'd rather people read this, potentially listen to the album and then make up their own mind about it based on the text, and the content of the album rather than a faceless number associated with the text.

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#2  Edited By Lashe

Nice blog man. I am a fan of In Flames and have been since I heard The Jester Race. It was only actually when I heard the material off ASOP live back in September that I really began to pay attention; the jump from Come Clarity just didn't seem to be far enough to get my attention although I must say that now I am loving the album. Still not my favourite outing by them but it is a tight album nonetheless - a grower indeed!

Also, loved that quote from Anders about the tour bus - where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?

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Lashe said:
"Also, loved that quote from Anders about the tour bus - where did you get it from if you don't mind me asking?"
Someone posted it on songmeanings.net.  Apparently it was from Kerrang magazine, so I don't have any proof that it's true, but it makes sense in the context of the lyrics of the song:

"I look at the dead outside my window
Wonder what's on their mind
Why do they run?
They all seem to have a mission
But then they cry themselves to sleep"

I felt like I had to defend that song, since I've consistently seen quite a few people on various websites pass it off as some lame attempt to appeal to 13 year old scene kids or some garbage which is completely incorrect.
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Oh, I should quickly point out for people that DON'T like this album, you are free to share your opinion on the matter, I simply just meant in my initial introduction that I really don't want to get into the whole opinion vs. opinion argument as if they are facts because it's stupid and goes nowhere.

It's natural that some people just won't really be feelin' this album I just really don't want to get into the whole new vs. old In Flames argument because it's like beating a dead horse.

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Yeah seems to make sense - I noticed a lot of people would find the lyrics pretty jarring but Anders doesn't tend to do something like that without some meaning - nice find!

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#6  Edited By KnightsofRound

Agreed, I think Anders is a lot more insightful with his lyrics than a lot of people give him credit for these days.

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#7  Edited By Verdugo

Can't say I'm really a huge fan of In Flame's work, but I do think some of their songs are great. Nice album overview dude.

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I personally loved the hell out of this album.  It had tons of layers to it, there were enough elements from all of their career to hold onto any In Flames fan, and Anders' vocals have never sounded better.  I hated some of the lyrical content (how much more emo can you get than "I feel like shit, but at least I feel something").


Also, Alex's artwork really set a great tone for the album.  The DVD that came with mine was also excellent, as it showed the recording of the album and really gave you a great look at what goes into making a record like this...especially one that is made in your OWN studio and produced by YOU as a band.  The idea of trying to produce my own stuff is absolutely mind-boggling, as it would be difficult to criticize and analyze on that level.
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#9  Edited By DarkSeraphim

I love In Flames. Disconnected is one of my favorites from them. All of my friends dont really know about this band, it's a surprise someone wrote a whole blog about it. I love the fact that you did. Its pretty unique. :) thanksss.

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#10  Edited By jakob187
@DarkSeraphim: I don't know if I could go THAT far.  I mean, seriously, the chorus has one of the emo verses ever written:

"I feel like shit, but at least I feel something"

Anders is a much better writer than that sub-par bullshit.  The musical composition of the song is pretty decent, though...until it hits that chorus.
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@jakob187 said:
"@DarkSeraphim: I don't know if I could go THAT far.  I mean, seriously, the chorus has one of the emo verses ever written:

"I feel like shit, but at least I feel something"

Anders is a much better writer than that sub-par bullshit.  The musical composition of the song is pretty decent, though...until it hits that chorus.
"

Ahh. I dont care if it sounds emo haha. The musical composition though, I agree it's really well thought out. The chorus is not that bad though. but still, i appreciate what your opinion is. :)
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#12  Edited By Ineedaname

Come Clarity was an awesome album, I can listen to versus terminus all day. I have to agree with you disconnected and sleepless again are also two incredible songs.

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#13  Edited By eclipsesis

I don't like in flames, Tell you what people Killswtich engage have a new album coming out this year, i can't wait to get my hands on it

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#14  Edited By ChickenPants

Don't bother with the ratings man.Just let people read your articles to get your general opinion , don't simplify it into a number they can bitch about.

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#15  Edited By DECA555

man this album was fricken amazing. 

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#16  Edited By KnightsofRound

It's good to see some people agree that this was a great album, cause I've read a LOT of bitching about it which gets kind of annoying after a while.  Everyone is of course, allowed to have their own opinion.

Kind of surprised someone necro'd this thread though :P

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@jakob187 said:
" @DarkSeraphim: I don't know if I could go THAT far.  I mean, seriously, the chorus has one of the emo verses ever written:

"I feel like shit, but at least I feel something"

Anders is a much better writer than that sub-par bullshit.  The musical composition of the song is pretty decent, though...until it hits that chorus.
"
I don't really know why so many people think this is an "emo" lyric.  I mean yeah, I understand why it comes across that way initially, but I see it more as someone being hopeful and optimistic that they still feel enough to give a shit, even though they might be down on themselves or feel like shit, as he described.

I think an "emo" lyric would be more something like "I feel like shit, I just want to die".  Bad example, but yeah, lol.
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#18  Edited By jakob187
@Ineedaname: "Leeches" is where it's at, and "Crawling Through Knives".  Those are excellent In Flames tracks from Come Clarity.

"Disconnected" is a weak track from A Sense of Purpose, however.  Best tracks on that album, hands down, are "March to the Shore", "Sleepless Again", and "Drenched in Fear".

However, if you dig "Disconnected", it's DLC for Guitar Hero World Tour now.

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" I don't like in flames, Tell you what people Killswtich engage have a new album coming out this year, i can't wait to get my hands on it "
Are you fucking kidding me?  Based on "Reckoning", those guys need to go back to the fucking studio!  Shit song from a band that I expected more from...especially after Adam D. just finished producing Parkway Drive's Horizons, Unearth's The March, and As I Lay Dying's An Ocean Between Us.  By the way, those are three of the most brutal fucking records to come out in the last two years easily!  Here's that new KsE for you to drool over, while we stick with In Flames:

  


Seriously?  Between the uninspired guitar riff, the negative-as-all-Hell lyrics from a band that is always about the positive, and the lame drum beat and weak blasts....I mean, I'm really HOPING that this isn't KsE.  If it is, then I'm REALLY hoping that the rest of the album is about 100 times better than this shit.
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@jakob187: Let's be serious that album's just awesome.
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#20  Edited By KnightsofRound
@ jakob187 - I agree that March to the Shore is a great track.  It has definitely grown on me a LOT since I wrote this.  Disconnected is far from my favourite track on this album, but I found it to be a pretty accessible tune when I first started listening to this album.  My top 3 are probably Drenched in Fear, The Chosen Pessimist, and Move Through Me.  I really just like this entire album in general though.
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The modern metal I'm into tends to be toward the harder end (as in death metal, black metal, and that sort of thing). So I'm not a fan of this album even though I was a fan of In Flames older CD, with Colony and Jester Race probably being my favorites. It does have a couple of enjoyable songs for me though.  Regardless, good post man.

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#22  Edited By subject2change

Album wasn't bad, prefer my older stuff. Hate Anders as I heard he pretty much told his fans to fuck off when they wanted him to play old stuff at a show.

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@Subject2Change said:
" Album wasn't bad, prefer my older stuff. Hate Anders as I heard he pretty much told his fans to fuck off when they wanted him to play old stuff at a show. "
Uhhh...no.  I've got the import of Soundtrack, and there's a live version of Clayman on there.  Also...check out the Used and Abused DVD.  Plenty of old shit on there.  You've gotta remember that when a band goes on tour, they are essentially trying to promote their new album.  Lots of people get pissed off because the band doesn't play a ton of their back catalogue, but with a band like In Flames...well, just look at how many albums they have!!!  So, yeah...they may not play a ton of the old shit...but that's the way things go.  People can be picky bitches sometimes.

@Ineedaname said:
" @jakob187: Let's be serious that album's just awesome. "
Which album?  The new Killswitch Engage?  Dood, they're saying it's their first title album.  Basically, that means they are saying that the FIRST title album they wrote and made with Jesse David Leach doesn't matter and/or exist...even though they were more than willing to re-release it with remastered tracks...

Yeah, as far as I'm concerned right now...fuck KsE.  Here's their official music video for their newest single also.  Gotta say...it's a long fall from the top...

  

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#24  Edited By subject2change

There is a difference of being on a professionally produced DVD and a venue show. There is also a difference of ignoring the asking for old material and telling your fans to "FUCK OFF and go home if you dont want to hear new shit" How many albums they have that people consider old? a significant more than they have "newer" albums. When your setlists contains 90% of the last 2 albums you are doing something wrong. I still listen to em but Anders seems to have gotten an ego ever since he became all "big"

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#25  Edited By jakob187
@Subject2Change: I wouldn't say that at all.  They play a pretty good mix of stuff.  Plus, when you are talking about their "new" albums (which I'll take to mean Reroute, Soundtrack, Clarity, and Purpose), it's all still good music.  That's four albums compared to their old albums, which there are five of their "old" albums (that's Lunar to Clayman).  In essence, those "fans" are asking for the band to play a majority of old shit from almost nine albums worth of material.  Now, personally, if you ask me to dig through almost nine albums worth of shit, it's going to be tough.  You can't please everyone, and if fans want to irritate a musician because they aren't playing the music they can't pull their dick out of, then that's on the fans...not the band.

When I saw In Flames, I thought they put on a great show.  It was a good mix of old and new stuff.  Hell, they played a couple from Whoracle, "Clayman", one off Jester Race, and when they played stuff from the "new" albums (this was back when Clarity was out, before Purpose btw), they still shifted between those songs well too.

Overall, from what I can remember:

Whoracle - 2 songs
Clayman - 1 song
Jester Race - 1 song
Reroute - 2 songs
Soundtrack - 2 songs
Clarity - 5 songs

For an hour long show, I can't complain at all, and it was a good mix.  Yeah, I heard people bitch that they didn't play specific songs from the albums, but regardless, they gave the albums some attention.

It's like people that bitch about Tool not playing older shit.  That's why they wrote songs like "Hooker With A Penis" and "Ticks and Leeches" and "The Pot".  = D  I hate it when people expect a band to only play their old shit, and I hate it more when people expect a band to only be like their old shit.

AND I KNOW WHERE THAT ARGUMENT IS ABOUT TO LEAD!!!

"But jakob, you just finished talking shit about the new Killswitch Engage stuff..."

Yes, I did.  Here's why:
  • Adam and Joel are FAR better guitarists than needing to lower themselves to residing in a strict range of chug riffs
  • Justin is a drummer that can pull complex time signatures (look at his stuff in Blood Has Been Shed), and he can do thrash and blast beats better than what he has shown so far on this record
  • Howard's vocals are whiny...and in a live version of "A Light In A Darkened World" (another new song), I heard his voice crack.  It went out.  HOWARD JONES' VOICE...FUCKING...CRACKED!!!  For ANYONE that has ever seen KsE live, you know DAMN WELL that Howard's voice is nigh immaculate and NEVER cracks.  This is a shame.  His lyrics are also weak as Hell on this record.  I point to "Starting Over" as my evidence, then ask you to listen to "Breathe Life" and see how far down his lyrics have fallen.
  • Mike D. is a better bassist than to sit back and just pretend to not exist on a record.  His backend has always been the driving force of KsE's music.

In essence, KsE have lowered their standards of writing music in order to appeal to a wider audience of people that could give a shit less about them other than being the new fad of the week.  Maybe the fame went to their heads.  I don't know.  Nonetheless, I'm starting to think that "Holy Diver" was the worst thing to ever happen to them.
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#26  Edited By subject2change

The difference is being told to FUCK OFF compared to playing your set list. A little different. And personally I have nothing against their newer stuff, you get older and your inspiration changes. I say I listen to a diverse selection of music to my tastes and enjoy their later work; however as a FAN I wouldn't appreciate being told to FUCK OFF and leave if you don't like it.

And 5 Tracks from 1 album...that's a bit much...

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#27  Edited By DarkSeraphim
@KnightsofRound said:
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@jakob187 said:
" @DarkSeraphim: I don't know if I could go THAT far.  I mean, seriously, the chorus has one of the emo verses ever written:

"I feel like shit, but at least I feel something"

Anders is a much better writer than that sub-par bullshit.  The musical composition of the song is pretty decent, though...until it hits that chorus.
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I don't really know why so many people think this is an "emo" lyric.  I mean yeah, I understand why it comes across that way initially, but I see it more as someone being hopeful and optimistic that they still feel enough to give a shit, even though they might be down on themselves or feel like shit, as he described.I think an "emo" lyric would be more something like "I feel like shit, I just want to die".  Bad example, but yeah, lol."

lol. yeah, well said, i couldnt agree more. I think people just need to intrepret better, or take their intrepretations forward, and then they would get it. it's one of my favorite songs too, disconnected. I never get tired of it.  and if people have Nothing good to say, dont say it all. :) or...at least trrry not to.
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#28  Edited By jakob187
@KnightsofRound said:
"@jakob187 said: 
" @DarkSeraphim: I don't know if I could go THAT far.  I mean, seriously, the chorus has one of the emo verses ever written:

"I feel like shit, but at least I feel something"

Anders is a much better writer than that sub-par bullshit.  The musical composition of the song is pretty decent, though...until it hits that chorus."
I don't really know why so many people think this is an "emo" lyric.  I mean yeah, I understand why it comes across that way initially... "
That's all I needed to read out of that, Knights, because you then understand exactly what I mean.  lol

@DarkSeraphim said:
"lol. yeah, well said, i couldnt agree more. I think people just need to intrepret better, or take their intrepretations forward, and then they would get it. it's one of my favorite songs too, disconnected. I never get tired of it.  and if people have Nothing good to say, dont say it all. :) or...at least trrry not to. "
WHOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAA, BUCKO!!!  First, I'd like to say "Welcome to the internet" and then point out that this is a forum.  People will say things you may not agree with, and in turn, you either don't read their comments or you do read them and deal with it.  Now, maybe you forgot to read ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS where I said that I love this album...or perhaps you missed the deeper analysis that I had about the specific song you are pointing out, "Disconnected".  I said that the musical arrangement was good, even though the chorus was weak...mainly because it doesn't feel like it fits with the rest of the song.  I also think that one specific lyric happens to be a massive weak point, as Anders is a much better lyricist than that.  Regardless, I do like the song...because as I said before, I love this album.  Actually, here, I'll just quote what I said in case you missed it:

@jakob187 said: 
" I personally loved the hell out of this album.  It had tons of layers to it, there were enough elements from all of their career to hold onto any In Flames fan, and Anders' vocals have never sounded better.  I hated some of the lyrical content (how much more emo can you get than "I feel like shit, but at least I feel something")."
So, I'm sorry that my comments don't meet with your opinion of the song, but if you felt so inclined, I'm sure you could see that I'm not the only person who seems to feel this way about that particular lyric.  Hell, I'm nicer than the majority of the people you'll find in the comments on that article.  = D  I know exactly how the lyric is to be interpreted, I understood it the minute I heard it, but I also realized that Anders has written 8 other albums of vastly superior lyrics, and this sad little moment of lyrical content was noticeable enough that SOMEONE POINTED IT OUT IN THEIR REVIEW...AS WELL AS AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE!!!  I'm only pointing out the ONE LINE.  That review...and others as well (search for yourself)...point out the lyrics of the ENTIRE song.

So, Dark...if you don't like MY OPINION, then don't read anything listed next to the Viewtiful Joe avatar giving a gesture that is proclaiming exactly how I feel about your words towards me.  = D  I'm glad you enjoy the song, as well as In Flames' music.

And to finish this rant, I will say this:  as much as I love me some In Flames, they still don't equal up to other Swedish metal greats like Meshuggah, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, etc.  Hell, "Focus Shift" was a better SONG than the last three In Flames albums COMBINED.  Nonetheless, I still love me some In Flames.  = D
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#29  Edited By DarkSeraphim

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yeah i totally understand. :) sorry for the misconvenience. I agree with everything you have stated, and I'm sorry if I offended u, i should have respnded better before. thanks for sharing your opinion and I appreciate the fact that you took time to say all of that. :)