#1 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

Good [insert time of day here], Giant Bomb users! Not only is today the 60th anniversary of the declaration of the founding of the People's Republic of China (a topic you may discuss here if you wish), but it is also the opening night of the new NHL regular season! To celebrate, why don't we put together a stock-picker pool?
It's pretty straightforward, even if it seems complicated. You're given 30 points to distribute how you choose (with a few riders I'll get into shortly). You then multiply the points you've invested in a team by the amount of points they've earned in their games (2 for a win, 1 for an overtime loss), and you can hedge against teams you think are just going to downright suck. So, here are the riders:

- Even split across conferences (15/15)
- No more than 10 points per division
- You must invest more than 1 point in at least 1 team (i.e., you can't just give 1 point to every team)
- No more than 7 points per team
- You can't hedge more than 7 points against a team either

To understand how the points system works, I've provided a table below with my choices, and the following example.

Let's say I invest 7 teams in the Sharks and hedge 1 point against Colorado. Tonight they play each other in Colorado's home-opener, and let's say that San Jose wins in overtime. I would get 14 points (7 invested multiplied by 2 for the win)  from San Jose, but I would lose 1 point (-1 multiplied by 1 equals -1) because Colorado earned a point and I was hedged against them. Seems complicated, but it's really not. In fact, I've already built a spreadsheet to calculate investors' scores automatically. Let's say the Sharks lose in overtime. I would get 7 for the Sharks' one point, but lose 2 as a penalty for hedging against the victor, so I would get 5 points from that game. The spreadsheet I've built will calculate these totals whenever I update the standings, and I can send it to any participant who wants to be able to calculate their totals themselves.

 League Table Suicrat's Investments Points WEST 0x 15 PACIFIC 0 x 4 Anaheim Ducks 0 x 2 Dallas Stars 0 x 1 L.A. Kings 0 x 1 Phoenix Coyotes 0 x -7 San Jose Sharks 0 x 7 NORTHWEST 0 x 4 Calgary Flames 0 x 1 Colorado Avalanche 0 x -1 Edmonton Oilers 0 x 0 Minnesota Wild 0 x 1 Vancouver Canucks 0 x 3 CENTRAL 0 x 7 Chicago Blackhawks 0 x 4 Columbus BlueJackets 0 x 0 Detroit Red Wings 0 x 2 Nashville Predators 0 x -1 St. Louis Blues 0 x 2 EAST 0 x 15 ATLANTIC 0 x 6 New Jersey Devils 0 x 1 New York Islanders 0 x -2 New York Rangers 0 x 1 Philadelphia Flyers 0 x 2 Pittsburgh Penguins 0 x 4 NORTHEAST 0 x 4 Boston Bruins 0 x 3 Buffalo Sabres 0 x 2 Montreal Canadiens 0 x 0 Ottawa Senators 0 x -1 Toronto Maple Leafs 0 x 0 SOUTHEAST 0 x 5 Atlanta Thrashers 0 x -1 Carolina Hurricanes 0 x 2 Florida Panthers 0 x 1 Tampa Bay Lightning 0 x 0 Washington Capitals 0 x 3 TOTAL 0 x 30

So all you have to do is copy and paste this table, and add your own values, and I'll enter them into my spreadsheet, and add them to the post below for all to see. If you think one team is a lock to win their division or conference, feel free to invest as many as 7 points in them, and if you think another team is going to stink up the league, feel free to hedge as many as 7 points against them. As you can see, I'm biased by my love of the Sharks and the abject hopelessness of the Phoenix Coyotes. After tonight's games (and hereafter every sunday night), I will post updated scores and standings. Your point distributions will be fixed for the whole season (unless we can all agree on set times to redistribute points, like the Olympic Break for example, or month-to-month), so choose wisely!
#2 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

 League Table Suicrat Points Jankenstein Fossil WEST 0 x 15 15 15 PACIFIC 0 x 5 6 4 Anaheim Ducks 0 x 2 1 2 Dallas Stars 0 x 1 1 1 L.A. Kings 0 x 0 1 1 Phoenix Coyotes 0 x -2 -3 -7 San Jose Sharks 0 x 4 6 7 NORTHWEST 0 x 5 5 4 Calgary Flames 0 x 1 1 1 Colorado Avalanche 0 x 0 -2 -1 Edmonton Oilers 0 x 1 1 0 Minnesota Wild 0 x 0 1 1 Vancouver Canucks 0 x 3 4 3 CENTRAL 0 x 5 4 7 Chicago Blackhawks 0 x 2 3 4 Columbus BlueJackets 0 x -1 -1 0 Detroit Red Wings 0 x 4 2 2 Nashville Predators 0 x -1 -1 -1 St. Louis Blues 0 x 1 1 2 EAST 0 x 15 15 15 ATLANTIC 0 x 6 4 6 New Jersey Devils 0 x 1 0 1 New York Islanders 0 x -1 -2 -2 New York Rangers 0 x 1 0 1 Philadelphia Flyers 0 x 2 2 2 Pittsburgh Penguins 0 x 3 4 4 NORTHEAST 0 x 6 3 4 Boston Bruins 0 x 2 3 3 Buffalo Sabres 0 x 2 1 2 Montreal Canadiens 0 x 1 0 0 Ottawa Senators 0 x 0 0 -1 Toronto Maple Leafs 0 x 1 -1 0 SOUTHEAST 0 x 3 8 5 Atlanta Thrashers 0 x 0 0 -1 Carolina Hurricanes 0 x 3 2 2 Florida Panthers 0 x 0 1 1 Tampa Bay Lightning 0 x -1 2 0 Washington Capitals 0 x 1 3 3 TOTAL 0 x 30 30 30
#3 Posted by Jankenstein (17 posts) -

 League Table Jankenstein's Investments Points WEST 0x 15 PACIFIC 0 x 5 Anaheim Ducks 0 x 2 Dallas Stars 0 x 1 L.A. Kings 0 x 0 Phoenix Coyotes 0 x -2 San Jose Sharks 0 x 4 NORTHWEST 0 x 5 Calgary Flames 0 x 1 Colorado Avalanche 0 x 0 Edmonton Oilers 0 x 1 Minnesota Wild 0 x 0 Vancouver Canucks 0 x 3 CENTRAL 0 x 5 Chicago Blackhawks 0 x 2 Columbus BlueJackets 0 x -1 Detroit Red Wings 0 x 4 Nashville Predators 0 x -1 St. Louis Blues 0 x 1 EAST 0 x 15 ATLANTIC 0 x 6 New Jersey Devils 0 x 1 New York Islanders 0 x -1 New York Rangers 0 x 1 Philadelphia Flyers 0 x 2 Pittsburgh Penguins 0 x 3 NORTHEAST 0 x 6 Boston Bruins 0 x 2 Buffalo Sabres 0 x 2 Montreal Canadiens 0 x 1 Ottawa Senators 0 x 0 Toronto Maple Leafs 0 x 1 SOUTHEAST 0 x 3 Atlanta Thrashers 0 x 0 Carolina Hurricanes 0 x 3 Florida Panthers 0 x 0 Tampa Bay Lightning 0 x -1 Washington Capitals 0 x 1 TOTAL 0 x 30
#4 Posted by Fosssil (637 posts) -

 League Table Fosssil's Investments Points WEST 0x 15 PACIFIC 0 x 6 Anaheim Ducks 0 x 1 Dallas Stars 0 x 1 L.A. Kings 0 x 1 Phoenix Coyotes 0 x -3 San Jose Sharks 0 x 6 NORTHWEST 0 x 5 Calgary Flames 0 x 1 Colorado Avalanche 0 x -2 Edmonton Oilers 0 x 1 Minnesota Wild 0 x 1 Vancouver Canucks 0 x 4 CENTRAL 0 x 4 Chicago Blackhawks 0 x 3 Columbus BlueJackets 0 x -1 Detroit Red Wings 0 x 2 Nashville Predators 0 x -1 St. Louis Blues 0 x 1 EAST 0 x 15 ATLANTIC 0 x 4 New Jersey Devils 0 x 0 New York Islanders 0 x -2 New York Rangers 0 x 0 Philadelphia Flyers 0 x 2 Pittsburgh Penguins 0 x 4 NORTHEAST 0 x 3 Boston Bruins 0 x 3 Buffalo Sabres 0 x 1 Montreal Canadiens 0 x 0 Ottawa Senators 0 x 0 Toronto Maple Leafs 0 x -1 SOUTHEAST 0 x 8 Atlanta Thrashers 0 x 0 Carolina Hurricanes 0 x 2 Florida Panthers 0 x 1 Tampa Bay Lightning 0 x 2 Washington Capitals 0 x 3 TOTAL 0 x 30
#5 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

Thanks for posting, Fossil. I'll add yours to my spreadsheet and to the second post momentarily. Would you like me to send you a copy of the spreadsheet? (If so, PM me.)

#6 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -

All in on the Minnesota Wild!

#7 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

You're welcome to post here, but if you want to be part of the pool, you need to check the riders.

#8 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

15 games, 4 countries, 2 assists for Dany Heatley, and the most hectic day in NHL history ends with the damn Coyotes spoiling the gains I made with the Sharks. By the way, if you like hockey, it's not too late to join in. Just read the first post then post your values. Every month we'll be revising our picks so don't feel too hesitant about locking in a hedge against Montreal. They won't go 82-0 I assure you.
I'll be posting updates weekly from here on out.

#9 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -

Waiting for the Wild to get in there.

#10 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW: You can invest 7 in the Wild and then just distribute the other 23 amongst the expected division winners -- Boston, Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, and San Jose if you don't want to put too much thought into it.

Just out of curiosity, do you like the new Wild thirds?
(In case you haven't seen them)

#11 Edited by DanielJW (4929 posts) -
@Suicrat: Alright, well than give me 7 on Minnesota, 7 on Washington, 7 on Columbus, 7 on Pittsburgh, 1 on San Jose,  and 1 on Toronto.

And meh. Those jerseys look OK I guess. I'm indifferent.
#12 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW:
7 on Atlanta?! Well, whatever you say. I'll post the updates momentarily.

Wait... that adds up to 14 in the West and 16 in the East. Can you transfer one of your points to the Western Conference?
#13 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -
@Suicrat: I updated my picks, I didn't see that I needed an even split between conferences.
#14 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW: Thanks, NOW I'll post the updates shortly.
#15 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

Here comes a new challenger!

#16 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -

O.O Hey would you look at that.

#17 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

Updating early this week because I'm going out of town to visit my family for (Canadian) Thanksgiving weekend.

It's not too late to join up! Just throw all your points into Calgary, Ottawa, Philly, L.A., Columbus and San Jose!

Sorry, Daniel, but the Sharks are just too good on home ice, they gave me the lead at the end of the night!

#18 Edited by DanielJW (4929 posts) -
#19 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW: It's a long season. And so long as San Jose keeps winning and Phoenix keeps losing, I'll be the victorious one... for the first month anyway.
#20 Edited by Suicrat (3829 posts) -

No games sunday, so again the weekly update comes on saturday night. Maybe I should just keep doing it on this day....

It's not too late to join, people! My spreadsheet can handle way more than 4 participants! Come on, just make some damn picks!

Fucking Coyotes better start losing soon.

#21 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -

Golly, I have a knack for this stock picker thing.

#22 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW: I thought you said you knew other hockey fans on Giantbomb.... where the heck are they?!
#23 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -
@Suicrat said:
" @DanielJW: I thought you said you knew other hockey fans on Giantbomb.... where the heck are they?! "
Slanderous! I said nothing of the sort.
#24 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW: Okay... maybe it was Fosssil.... but dammit, man! Let me get those spreadsheet juices flowing!
#25 Posted by DanielJW (4929 posts) -
@Suicrat: You sound like an aroused accountant.
#26 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@DanielJW: That's what she said.
#27 Posted by Suicrat (3829 posts) -
@Fosssil:
15 games again this saturday, and as always this overwhelming amount of activity means all of my teams won, and all of Jankenstein and DanielJW's teams lost. But all of a sudden, Fosssil's within 3 points!

By the way folks, this marks the last week before November, so feel free to post your November picks (same rules apply) at any point between now and the end of November's first week.

And for anyone else who wants to join, it's not too late! Let's get some more people betting ethereal points on hockey teams!