Posted by Bolt (154 posts) -

It seems today we live in a wold full of out of touch polatitions. As we face seemingly more murders, and mass shootings the Majority of our ilustrious "Leaders" Reach out in a blind fit of rage. Blaming the problem on objects, objects! Video games come under fire most often. Becouse of the extreme viloance portrayed in some of them. We as a socitey fail to put blame where blame should be placed. Parents, its almost like a dirty word when it comes to stuff like this. No one every blames the parents.

You see, I was raised on video games. Some of my first memories are of holding a NES controller as I looked out of my Teenage mutant ninja turtles tent, and watched as Mario took it to the bad guys at my command. I have owned a system or two of every generation since then. I also owned one of the biggest bad guys of them all, around age 5-6, I owned Mortal Kombat. Yes folks Mortal Kombat, a thing responsable for as many mass murders as Jesus himself. It was not enough to own it, and beat my oponents senseless at it. No, no, at school I learned something to make it even better. "A,B,A,C,A,B,B" The blood code. Now we are talking, with every successful hit copious ammounts of pixelated blood come out of my opponent. Did I ever want to see the same affect on real people? No of course not, I knew better. I was taught better, raised beter. To do it in a game, is entirly different than inflicting such pain on a real person.

Yes, I love Violant video games. Always have, even at a young age. Oh but it gets better! I owned evern more, mass murder causing plastic disks of death. Games like Grand Theft Auto. Where yes, you heard it hear first. I did indeed kill the hooker for more "Points". I also killed a few cops, ran over some innocent pedestrians and had a blast while doing it all. I have cut creatures in half with Chain saws, and shot at random strangers online in the dreaded and terrible Call of Duty franchise. Still, after all this "Mind altering" video game violance, I never wanted to inflict this sort of violance on my fellow human beings. I was picked on for being over weight as a child, for having a massive over bite. Never once did I look at my assaliants and her the voice of shang tusung telling me to "FINISH HIM".

It would seem I have experianced a lot of the "damaging" violence in video games, and from a young age. Oh, and here is the kicker I have left out. I come from a broken home, a home of violance, a home of substance abuse. A home that once held host to a now convicted killer. I also suffer from sever anxiety, so bad that I can not hold a job. I also have long hair and listen to rock music, yet another cause of mass murder. Oh, but wait. I am not a genocidale maniac. I have never once thought of shooting up a public place, or a school. I seem to defy the logic of almost every republican, democrate, and uninformed media type out there. I have news for you people, I am not alone. There are thousands of gamers from a back ground similar to mine. We don't see them going on a shooting spree now do we?

You may be asking your self, well how did this happen? You see, despite coming from a broken home and having all the aformentioned problems, I was fucking parented. I was tought right from wrong, spanked for my misbehavior. I wasnt spoiled with every thing I wanted. How about that? I was disoplened and attended to, and I can handle violance with out wanting to do it myself. To often in todays world of Columbines, Auroas and most recently Sandy hook, do we look instantly to blame anything we don't agree with. Why has it never occured to anyone to hold the parents accountable? Having guns in a home with a child known to be mentally unstable is just pure irresponsable.

So I say to you washington, get your heads out of your asses. Look to where the real problem lies. With the parents. We live in a world where careers and money, are held at a higher value than having a full time parent. These games are gotten for children, who are in turn left at home with there thoughts, left to determine if what they see in the game, is ok to do in real life. Mental issues left unchecked, denial on rediculas levels " No not my child, my child does not have anything wrong with them" is leading to most of this.

This thought of "There is nothing wrong" Is also leaving kids with all of this confustion, and fustration, and general disalusion to what is right and wrong home with daddys AR15. So the next time, Johnny Q Homicidle shoots up a school, or a mall, or what ever it may be. Investigate the parents. Chances are, they didn't do their jobs, and its with them the responsability for all the death lays.

#1 Edited by RandomHero666 (3181 posts) -

The whole 'Parents are to blame' thing is getting pretty old to be honest.

This is mostly an American problem, right?

If your government spent as much money on schools and education as they do on bombing brown people, that might help

#2 Posted by Drebin_893 (2899 posts) -

I agree with you. As I get older I feel more and more like absent and neglectful parents are the cause of most of society's ills.

#3 Edited by Morrow (1828 posts) -

Parents are one reason. A hostile society is another one. I think bullying in school is being underrated. That's why most shootings in schools happen, right?

#4 Edited by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

It depends on the parent and kid. You have great parents with shitty kids, vice versa and everything in between. To completely blame either one is stupid. Some parents try their hardest and still end up with fuck heads for children. On the other hand some parents simply don't give a shit or even worse abuse their children...sorry you had to go through all of that shit man.

And a little off topic but with all of that said the way some kids are raised today is insane. I understand punishing your kid is tough, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative which is let the kid do whatever he/she wants without any consequences. And I'm speaking from personal experience.

#5 Edited by EXTomar (4491 posts) -

I used to think parents who behaved like this were crazy or lazy but then I realized that parents are very putting in nearly all of their energy into their family and kids. There is a lot of stuff going on in the world where expecting parents who work and raise kids to be experts on all sorts of stuff like video games is a bit much.

I don't believe parents chasing after video game violence are correct but I do see why they do it. Not seeing why just leads to more fanaticism where frankly video games on the whole have done a terrible job presenting themselves to the public. People understand porn better than video games and that says a lot.

#6 Posted by Bolt (154 posts) -

I totally agree with the porn thing. Kids are learning sexual things at a shockingly young age these days.

No notifications to the comments I got, thanks for keeping it civilized.

#7 Posted by Video_Game_King (35982 posts) -

@bolt said:

Kids are learning sexual things at a shockingly young age these days.

Compared to when? When you and your friends learned about this stuff? That's not a reliable metric, and without objective data and measured trends, I'm guessing that's what you're going on.

#8 Posted by Bolt (154 posts) -

@bolt said:

Kids are learning sexual things at a shockingly young age these days.

Compared to when? When you and your friends learned about this stuff? That's not a reliable metric, and without objective data and measured trends, I'm guessing that's what you're going on.

Yeah, I am not trying to pull official data or anything. Didn't mean to make it seem that way. But yes, in my area kids are getting pregnant crazy young.

#9 Edited by Oldirtybearon (4590 posts) -

If your government spent as much money on schools and education as they do on bombing brown people, that might help

Truth in the first reply. Holy shit.

#10 Edited by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -

so I'm betting you've met a couple of bad parents, and now you're assuming that people like that are the majority for some reason, and that led you to write this, right? great job.

also "poalitions" is the worst typo ever, and you should feel awful for making that mistake.

#11 Edited by Bolt (154 posts) -

so I'm betting you've met a couple of bad parents, and now you're assuming that people like that are the majority for some reason, and that led you to write this, right? great job.

also "poalitions" is the worst typo ever, and you should feel awful for making that mistake.

More than a couple, not saying all are what so ever. I think people are naive to think that bad parenting a one in a few thing though. Thats all I am saying. If you know your children have problems do not have guns in your home. Thats not going to stop them from going to Little Timmy's house down the street and getting them though, but hey responsibility is nice.

#12 Posted by Winternet (8004 posts) -

Yep, no more parents left. They're all gone. Done. Over. POW!

#13 Edited by OfficeGamer (1087 posts) -

You can't blame the parents, they are the voters, the consumers, the fur wearers, the customers, the gas-fueled-car owners and drivers.

You blame other things because that increases the parents' satisfaction with you and makes them vote more, consume more, keep you up.

I mean, surely the fact that one blames video games for anything is an enough indicator that one isn't really looking to solve the problem but rather pretend to solve it to appease to his interest group. The government's interest group is the stupid parents who make the household decisions.

#14 Edited by SathingtonWaltz (2053 posts) -

The whole 'Parents are to blame' thing is getting pretty old to be honest.

This is mostly an American problem, right?

If your government spent as much money on schools and education as they do on bombing brown people, that might help

I do wish we spent less on "National Defense", but the education system doesn't have as much of a revenue problem as it does a "it's a fucking broken ass system" problem. Yes, there are schools that are underfunded, but in general increasing funding does not directly correlate to better education. The system is fucking draconian and broken, and it's one of several reasons why I no longer teach.

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#16 Edited by OfficeGamer (1087 posts) -
#17 Edited by Gamer_152 (14051 posts) -

I think this point has been made many, many times before, but yeah, it's silly that video games are still under fire in this way, and parents should be held more accountable, step in to actually see what their kids are playing, and should act accordingly. That being said, I don't think the politicians are acting out of blind rage, and I think a lot of the talk about "Politics these days" or really how anything was better in the past but is a million times worse "these days", ignores what the past was actually like. Additionally, I think you need some serious evidence to start saying things like "When a guy goes and shoots up a school, it's probably entirely the fault of bad parenting and nothing else".

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#18 Edited by ThePhantomStranger (353 posts) -

A bit confused as to who you're addressing here.

Also, as has been said a metric ton already, the reasons behind a certain behavior are complex and can't be nailed down to just "the parents are to blame exclusively" OR "videogames are to blame exclusively" as that just gives another reductionist answer.

#19 Edited by pyromagnestir (4236 posts) -

People should need a license to have kids. Or something. And it takes more than just good parents to raise a child (although that's a great start). The more positive, loving influences in a child's life the better. Of course it only takes one bad experience to wipe out all that good.

But life is too complicated to boil down things to any one or two or how ever many reasons. And sometimes human beings are just born fucked up and people don't want to admit it till after something tragic happens.

@bolt said:
@video_game_king said:

@bolt said:

Kids are learning sexual things at a shockingly young age these days.

Compared to when? When you and your friends learned about this stuff? That's not a reliable metric, and without objective data and measured trends, I'm guessing that's what you're going on.

Yeah, I am not trying to pull official data or anything. Didn't mean to make it seem that way. But yes, in my area kids are getting pregnant crazy young.

Didn't people used to marry off young girls as soon as they reached the point they could physically have children? As young as what, 13? 12 maybe? That happened right? Not all the time, sure, but often.

#20 Edited by frankfartmouth (1016 posts) -

America has a deep fascination with cheap violence, and the causes are myriad. I don't think anybody really knows exactly why our collective attitude towards violence is different here than say, Europe or Japan, but there are obviously lots of factors; parents and media are certainly part of it, but it doubtless goes deeper than that in most respects. I think it has pretty old roots and runs back farther than a lot of people think. America has a cowboy culture. Always has.

Things are changing a little. After Columbine, the furor over games like Mortal Kombat and Doom--and music like Marilyn Manson--was much more mob-like and one-sided. It was clear that people were looking for something quick and palpable to blame. It's been much more reasoned this time around.

But you're right that parents aren't brought into it a whole lot. Part of the problem there might be that in most of the attention-grabbing cases of what some say is media-inspired violence, like Columbine and Newtown, there doesn't appear to be any dramatic family dysfunction. Most of these mass killers seem to come from pretty "normal," suburban homes. People see that and then seem to say, "Nothing wrong with the parents, must be something else."

#21 Posted by Scrawnto (2434 posts) -

People should need a license to have kids. Or something. And it takes more than just good parents to raise a child (although that's a great start). The more positive, loving influences in a child's life the better. Of course it only takes one bad experience to wipe out all that good.

But life is too complicated to boil down things to any one or two or how ever many reasons. And sometimes human beings are just born fucked up and people don't want to admit it till after something tragic happens.

@bolt said:
@video_game_king said:

@bolt said:

Kids are learning sexual things at a shockingly young age these days.

Compared to when? When you and your friends learned about this stuff? That's not a reliable metric, and without objective data and measured trends, I'm guessing that's what you're going on.

Yeah, I am not trying to pull official data or anything. Didn't mean to make it seem that way. But yes, in my area kids are getting pregnant crazy young.

Didn't people used to marry off young girls as soon as they reached the point they could physically have children? As young as what, 13? 12 maybe? That happened right? Not all the time, sure, but often.

That's true, but not the whole story. Many young girls did get married by 12 or 13. However I recall reading that puberty came later in life in those days, sometimes as late as 15 or 16 for girls, due to poorer nutrition among other things. Though, whether the husbands of those girls held off on their consummation until such a time, I don't know.

#22 Edited by Fredchuckdave (5327 posts) -

The internet is far more of an issue than bad parenting, parenting is a crapshoot and maybe 5-10% of parents could be classified as "good" universally; but the internet is about 99% shit and utterly dominates most people's lives in some respect. Call of Duty is a problem to be sure, but nowhere near as severe a problem as the internet itself.

#23 Posted by Bolt (154 posts) -

Thanks for all the input, I am glad most of you kept things civil. This was all one mans opinions, and as they say, who ever they are. Opinions are like assholes everyone has them.

#24 Edited by Example1013 (4834 posts) -

polatitions

WHAT DOES IT EVEN MEAN

#25 Posted by Bolt (154 posts) -

polatitions

WHAT DOES IT EVEN MEAN

It means, I am by no means a professional writer. Nor do I take the time to re-read everything like it's a school assignment. My profession does not require constant good grammar and spelling, yay for IT work. Lazzy

#26 Posted by dudeglove (7684 posts) -

I... uh... what?