Never thought I would see the day that this would happen. He is literally one of the last people that I could see coming to the dark side. Weird as it may be, we'll take him.
"We're locking up people that take a couple of puffs of marijuana and the next thing you know they've got 10 years -- they've got mandatory sentences and these judges, they throw up their hand and say "What can we do? It's mandatory sentences." We've got to take a look at what we're considering crimes, and that's one of 'em. I mean, I'm not exactly for the use of drugs, don't get me wrong. But I just believe criminalizing marijuana, criminalizing the possession of just a few ounces of pot, and that kind of thing, I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people. The young people go into prisons, they go in as youths, and they come out as hardened criminals, and it's not a good thing."
Pat Robertson (700 Club) wants Marijuana Decriminalized. wtf.
Might explain the time I watched him talk about the back of his hand for an hour on TV. Dude was TOASTED.
"I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick.
" What an idiot. Jail isn't ruining kids, marijuana is ruining kids. "Are you one of those people who believes everything in Reefer Madness? Most of my extremely motivated, brilliant, and non-ruined friends have smoked pot most of their lives. My friend who is a 3rd level engineering calculus tutor at the University of Wisconsin smokes pot every week. But for some reason, his life is not ruined. If he got caught though, things might be different and he may not get into Stanford which is where he's heading right now.
" @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that."I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
Marijuana shouldn't be legalised nor should it be criminalised. I believe that these people require rehabilitation at first and then if they repeat the offence they should be sent to prison. Sending people to prison for the possession/use of the drug, just once, is straight up ridiculous.
" @Jack268 said:And it's amazing how suggestible you can be when you're high. I prefer to go through life with a clear head. If I need to unwind, I'll play a video game or watch a movie instead of fucking myself up with drugs." @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
" @lilburtonboy7489 said:Congrats on that. I smoked pot since I was 15 until I got married. I'm doing pretty well for myself despite "fucking myself up with drugs"." @Jack268 said:And it's amazing how suggestible you can be when you're high. I prefer to go through life with a clear head. If I need to unwind, I'll play a video game or watch a movie instead of fucking myself up with drugs. "" @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
" @Hailinel said:And I'm sure you must have been excellent company while drifting in the purple haze." @lilburtonboy7489 said:Congrats on that. I smoked pot since I was 15 until I got married. I'm doing pretty well for myself despite "fucking myself up with drugs". "" @Jack268 said:And it's amazing how suggestible you can be when you're high. I prefer to go through life with a clear head. If I need to unwind, I'll play a video game or watch a movie instead of fucking myself up with drugs. "" @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
" @Jack268 said:Except I've talked to a guy who smoked pot for 15 years. 3 of his friends died and in the end he was all alone without work, and weighed less than I did when I was 10 because he couldn't afford food. I think that's kind of fucked up." @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
Is there really any reason, long-term to smoke pot? I'm just not seeing it.
" @lilburtonboy7489 said:What? So pot killed 3 people and caused a guy to not have a job and lose all of his weight? Is that what you're saying? If not, what exactly are you saying?" @Jack268 said:Except I've talked to a guy who smoked pot for 15 years. 3 of his friends died and in the end he was all alone without work, and weighed less than I did when I was 10 because he couldn't afford food. I think that's kind of fucked up. Is there really any reason, long-term to smoke pot? I'm just not seeing it. "" @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
This is like when Glenn Beck said he wasn't against gay marriage, he's right of course but he's still one of the biggest asshats in the world.
The reason weed should be legal is because of the harm it does to communities when it is illegal. Mexico is in this huge drug war it can't win because the US government is so stubborn about it. If they legalised Marijuana, the government could tax it, the gangs would lose their source of income and your country would be better off. It has been proven that Marijuana does less harm to you and your surroundings than tobacco or alcohol, the arguments used against Marijuana could be used against those too. It doesn't make any sense.
My position on pot changed dramatically in college when the public school brainwashing was no longer present and I got to see how it affected real, actual people. It's no different than alcohol. It doesn't really change who you already are, and there are plenty of quality people that use it from time to time while maintaining a healthy lifestyle. It will be decriminalized soon enough, I'm sure.
He also blames the earthquake in Haiti on the Haitians making a pact with the devil.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001130024
I've known a lot of idiots who did/do use pot, but the pot didn't make them idiots. That was a preexisting condition. Pot makes people suggestible? Sure. So does alcohol. I prefer to stay fairly sober, and I've never smoked marijuana, but I don't think that using either of those substances in the comfort of one's home should be a crime. Personally, I can't stand the smell of marijuana, and I strongly dislike breathing smoke of any kind.
" What an idiot. Jail isn't ruining kids, marijuana is ruining kids. "I thought it was self entitled fifteen year old on the internet.
" @natetodamax said:Oh, you could be right. Good thing I'm not fifteen then!" What an idiot. Jail isn't ruining kids, marijuana is ruining kids. "I thought it was self entitled fifteen year old on the internet. "
" @W0lfbl1tzers said:That is a good thing. Also, feed the quote pyramid." @natetodamax said:Oh, you could be right. Good thing I'm not fifteen then! "" What an idiot. Jail isn't ruining kids, marijuana is ruining kids. "I thought it was self entitled fifteen year old on the internet. "
" I've known a lot of idiots who did/do use pot, but the pot didn't make them idiots. That was a preexisting condition. Pot makes people suggestible? Sure. So does alcohol. I prefer to stay fairly sober, and I've never smoked marijuana, but I don't think that using either of those substances in the comfort of one's home should be a crime. Personally, I can't stand the smell of marijuana, and I strongly dislike breathing smoke of any kind. "I like this post. It's my feelings summed up.
" @Jack268 said:Chances are their lives are already fucked up. Marijuana certainly doesn't help that." @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
Legalizing marajuana would only be a smart thing to do. Ofcourse Pat Robertson would believe in it.
People these days don't realise their own damn kids take drugs by simply drinking caffinated stuff like coca-cola or pepsi-or even worst, coffee. There was an article on lifehacker comparing the affects of caffine and alcohol and there was not much of a drastic difference except caffine didn't usually cause others to be killed (like impaired driving). Caffine only affects the person taking the drug.
" @lilburtonboy7489 said:I don't understand your bizarre example. Are you saying pot is so dangerous that it doesn't kill you, but figures out who your loved ones are and kills them? Did it rape and torture them first? You make it sound like pot is some kind of drug that super villains use to hatch evil plans." @Jack268 said:Except I've talked to a guy who smoked pot for 15 years. 3 of his friends died and in the end he was all alone without work, and weighed less than I did when I was 10 because he couldn't afford food. I think that's kind of fucked up. Is there really any reason, long-term to smoke pot? I'm just not seeing it. "" @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
" @Jack268 said:His friends smoked too durr" @lilburtonboy7489 said:I don't understand your bizarre example. Are you saying pot is so dangerous that it doesn't kill you, but figures out who your loved ones are and kills them? Did it rape and torture them first? You make it sound like pot is some kind of drug that super villains use to hatch evil plans. "" @Jack268 said:Except I've talked to a guy who smoked pot for 15 years. 3 of his friends died and in the end he was all alone without work, and weighed less than I did when I was 10 because he couldn't afford food. I think that's kind of fucked up. Is there really any reason, long-term to smoke pot? I'm just not seeing it. "" @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
" @zudthespud: Somehow, I doubt that legalizing pot in the U.S. is suddenly going to make the drug war in Mexico just go away. "It won't, but honestly that isn't the biggest issue. Marijuana is less harmful than Tobacco or Alcohol, and unlike Alcohol, creates a more subdued individual, rather than an aggressive one. So whereas a drunk is more likely to hit their spouse or go rampaging through the streets intoxicated, a stoner is more partial to driving slowly and saying sorry. If anything, Marijuana should be legalized, while Tobacco and Alcohol are put away forever. Obviously, that's not realistic.
Frankly, I hate the smell of the stuff. When I go to my Sounders games, there's usually more than a few pockets of cannabis smell floating around during the march. But whether I don't like it really isn't an issue. The issue is that its a relatively safe substance only illegal thanks to special lobbies earlier last century.
" @natetodamax said:Enlighten me.Well, this statement just made your fifteen thousand posts null and void. This is the epitome of incorrectness. EDIT: *Holds out for a post that points out the internet's inability to highlight sarcasm.* "" What an idiot. Jail isn't ruining kids, marijuana is ruining kids. "
@lilburtonboy7489 said:You're right my life and the lives of all of my friends who smoke is messed up. All of us are only going to college with stable family situations. moral of this story? Don't say "chances are" without evidence to back it up." @Jack268 said:Chances are their lives are already fucked up. Marijuana certainly doesn't help that." @lilburtonboy7489 said:People that smoke pot do not get their lives fucked up. Only people that believe everything they are told believe that. ""I mean it's costing us a fortune, and it's ruining young people."If they're doing drugs in the first place, they should count on their lives getting fucked up either way. First he says he isn't promoting drugs, but then he says there should be no punishment for doing them. What a dick. "
@ryanwho: No, but is it really wrong to punish people for breaking the law either? People choose to do something that is illegal, they get punished. It's really not that hard. You most definately can avoid smoking pot, and thereby avoid prison too.The point is that it shouldn't be against the law...
Also breaking the law doesn't and shouldn't always result in jail time. Speeding is against the law too, it's possible to not speed, therefore is it ok to stick speeders in jail?
" @ryanwho: No, but is it really wrong to punish people for breaking the law either? People choose to do something that is illegal, they get punished. It's really not that hard. You most definately can avoid smoking pot, and thereby avoid prison too. "You're Machiavelli's wet dream.
"How do you know its wrong?"
"Because its illegal."
"How do you know its harmful?"
"Its illegal."
"How do you know the punishment isn't actually more harmful than the crime?"
"Because the crime is a crime."
" My position on pot changed dramatically in college when the public school brainwashing was no longer present and I got to see how it affected real, actual people. It's no different than alcohol. It doesn't really change who you already are, and there are plenty of quality people that use it from time to time while maintaining a healthy lifestyle. It will be decriminalized soon enough, I'm sure. "Sha-BOOM! Same damn thing happened to me. I bought into all the bullshit, PSA garbage, and had plenty of evidence in my short life, but then I got to college, saw that not everyone who smokes weed is a complete fuck-up, and HEY, I made up my own mind.
It's okay, kiddies, it'll happen for you too. Or it won't and you'll just keep going through life in perfect lockstep with what others tell you.
Jeezus, internet. Seeing this religious wingnut take a stance supporting decriminalization started to give me some hope for the rest of humanity, and then I read the first page of comments. Forming such a steadfast opinion on a substance based on hearsay and not actual experience is folly no matter who you are. Pot has negative attributes, sure. It isn't for everyone, neither is alcohol, but at least no one has ever died of liver poisoning from overdosing on weed. It heightens creativity, and in the hands of responsible adults who understand that ALL things should be done in moderation, it can be an incredible tool to open yourself up to wonderful experiences.
Don't be such haters, stupid people will do stupid shit no matter what is legal or illegal. Keeping pot illegal has cost millions in keeping people imprisoned, not to mention keeping billions of dollars of pot revenue in the hands of criminals instead of taxing that income for the good of the government as is done with cigarettes and booze. It's a huge market, the only reason it hurts anyone is because of the fact that it exists in a black market where unsavory things will happen regardless. That's my soapbox speech. Also, I've been clean for a while, never had any addiction pangs, and I'm happily married.
the problem isn't marijuana. the problem is the copios amounts of money that pot is worth because it is illegal. if pot were legal and you could grow it at your own home for personal use, it would be worth next to nothing. the violence associated with mary jane isn't because the pot makes people violent. the greed because of how much it is worth begets the violence over it.
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