Prop 8 has been overturned in California

Moral absolutism is the dumbest shit.

I'm not gay and I don't live in California so this really doesn't affect me. But yay anyway?

" @BlackJedi: Sorry mate. I'm a Liberal, so I'll defend to the death your right to hold your opinion. But I'm not some crazy moral relativist sandal wearing hippy, so I can recognise that your opinion on this matter is bigoted and prejudiced, and recognising that isn't morally equivalent. Sorry. "

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: You aren't crazy for being against gay marriage. You're entitled to your opinion, bigoted, prejudiced and ridiculous as it may be. You're crazy for suggesting that gay marriage and bestiality are in some way equivalent. "

So being against gay marriage means my views are bigoted and prejudiced, then I would say the same to you. Once the rules are changed, they can be further changed once that door is open, which it is currently. Theres nothing crazy in comparing but you are entitled to your own opinion. In the end everyone has rights no matter how different a person can be. "  

You do realize that years ago, you would have been the guy suggesting that blacks and women should not be allowed to vote, because it would open the door for voting pigs and midgets having two votes!  You can't change the rules, even if a significant portion of the population isn't given the same rights as everyone else!  God bless America.  I got to say though, you guys aren't really going to convince anyone that you're right by acting like a bunch of weepy vaginas.  Throwing around accusations of bigotry and ridiculous, while correct, isn't really helping your cause.  Just throw logic in his face and hopefully some of it will stick. "

Good for them.

Cools. Not gay and doesn't affect me but good for them.

Can I marry my dog yet?

" @BlackJedi: you're absolutely right. i remember when the civil rights act passed and people thought it would just end there, but then blacks kept demanding more and more from the white man. and now, because we were foolish enough to change the status quo, we all live in a blasted futuristic dystopian hellscape where blacks rule over innocent whites from their ebony citadels and force their slaves to harvest precious metals to satiate their unquenchable thirst for more "bling".  ....oh wait  "

"Marriage" for all or "Marriage" for none.
 
I'm fine with no gay marriage on one condition.  Straight people can't get married either.
 
Civil Unions for everyone with the exact same legal rights given to all couples!

" @BlackJedi: you're absolutely right. i remember when the civil rights act passed and people thought it would just end there, but then blacks kept demanding more and more from the white man. and now, because we were foolish enough to change the status quo, we all live in a blasted futuristic dystopian hellscape where blacks rule over innocent whites from their ebony citadels and force their slaves to harvest precious metals to satiate their unquenchable thirst for more "bling".  ....oh wait  "

" @Meowshi said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: You aren't crazy for being against gay marriage. You're entitled to your opinion, bigoted, prejudiced and ridiculous as it may be. You're crazy for suggesting that gay marriage and bestiality are in some way equivalent. "

So being against gay marriage means my views are bigoted and prejudiced, then I would say the same to you. Once the rules are changed, they can be further changed once that door is open, which it is currently. Theres nothing crazy in comparing but you are entitled to your own opinion. In the end everyone has rights no matter how different a person can be. "  

You do realize that years ago, you would have been the guy suggesting that blacks and women should not be allowed to vote, because it would open the door for voting pigs and midgets having two votes!  You can't change the rules, even if a significant portion of the population isn't given the same rights as everyone else!  God bless America.  I got to say though, you guys aren't really going to convince anyone that you're right by acting like a bunch of weepy vaginas.  Throwing around accusations of bigotry and ridiculous, while correct, isn't really helping your cause.  Just throw logic in his face and hopefully some of it will stick. "

Race, and sex is 2 different things usually people who are for gay marriage usually bring this up. But you don't want me to compare other t hings to gay marriage because its "fail" lol sure. "

" Can I marry my dog yet? "

" On the one hand, this is good, but on the other hand, I feel sorry, because I think that homosexuals have been put through enough already without the misery of marriage.   That's right, I'm anti-marriage. Not anti-gay-marriage, I'm anti-regular-ass-marriage.  "

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

" @DG991 said:

" Can I marry my dog yet? "

LOL, not now but in the next couple of months its looking that way. "

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

" @BlackJedi said:

" @Meowshi said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: You aren't crazy for being against gay marriage. You're entitled to your opinion, bigoted, prejudiced and ridiculous as it may be. You're crazy for suggesting that gay marriage and bestiality are in some way equivalent. "

So being against gay marriage means my views are bigoted and prejudiced, then I would say the same to you. Once the rules are changed, they can be further changed once that door is open, which it is currently. Theres nothing crazy in comparing but you are entitled to your own opinion. In the end everyone has rights no matter how different a person can be. "  

You do realize that years ago, you would have been the guy suggesting that blacks and women should not be allowed to vote, because it would open the door for voting pigs and midgets having two votes!  You can't change the rules, even if a significant portion of the population isn't given the same rights as everyone else!  God bless America.  I got to say though, you guys aren't really going to convince anyone that you're right by acting like a bunch of weepy vaginas.  Throwing around accusations of bigotry and ridiculous, while correct, isn't really helping your cause.  Just throw logic in his face and hopefully some of it will stick. "

Race, and sex is 2 different things usually people who are for gay marriage usually bring this up. But you don't want me to compare other t hings to gay marriage because its "fail" lol sure. "

That's because the comparison isn't valid.  Race and sex being tWo different things isn't an argument.  It's just an observation.  It's like saying the sky and the floor are two different things.  Or a book and an elephant.  What's your point?  The reason we don't like you comparing gay marriage to "other things lol fail", is because you are trying to compare two humans wanting to live together, to a guy raping a donkey.  You have some formulated the idea that nonconsensual sex with animals is somehow comparable to two humans choosing to have sex with one another.  It's silly.  Honestly, I'd be all for human-animal marriage once animals evolve to the point where they can voice their consent for marriage and sex.  Until then, it's a dumb argument. "

" @BlackJedi: its less of a "race thing" and more of "history shows us that granting people equal rights doesn't cause society to collapse into a chaotic orgy of race wars and toaster fucking" you dense motherfucker "

" @Meowshi said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @Meowshi said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: You aren't crazy for being against gay marriage. You're entitled to your opinion, bigoted, prejudiced and ridiculous as it may be. You're crazy for suggesting that gay marriage and bestiality are in some way equivalent. "

So being against gay marriage means my views are bigoted and prejudiced, then I would say the same to you. Once the rules are changed, they can be further changed once that door is open, which it is currently. Theres nothing crazy in comparing but you are entitled to your own opinion. In the end everyone has rights no matter how different a person can be. "  

You do realize that years ago, you would have been the guy suggesting that blacks and women should not be allowed to vote, because it would open the door for voting pigs and midgets having two votes!  You can't change the rules, even if a significant portion of the population isn't given the same rights as everyone else!  God bless America.  I got to say though, you guys aren't really going to convince anyone that you're right by acting like a bunch of weepy vaginas.  Throwing around accusations of bigotry and ridiculous, while correct, isn't really helping your cause.  Just throw logic in his face and hopefully some of it will stick. "

Race, and sex is 2 different things usually people who are for gay marriage usually bring this up. But you don't want me to compare other t hings to gay marriage because its "fail" lol sure. "

That's because the comparison isn't valid.  Race and sex being tWo different things isn't an argument.  It's just an observation.  It's like saying the sky and the floor are two different things.  Or a book and an elephant.  What's your point?  The reason we don't like you comparing gay marriage to "other things lol fail", is because you are trying to compare two humans wanting to live together, to a guy raping a donkey.  You have some formulated the idea that nonconsensual sex with animals is somehow comparable to two humans choosing to have sex with one another.  It's silly.  Honestly, I'd be all for human-animal marriage once animals evolve to the point where they can voice their consent for marriage and sex.  Until then, it's a dumb argument. "

You can't say your way is wrong but others isn't it can be compared you  guys just don't want to. Its not an arugment because you don't want it to be. "

No, it's not an argument based on the very definition of the word "argument". 
 
"Sex and race are two different things." 
 
That's not an argument . It just isn't.  It's a pointless and arbitrary observation.  
 
And no, bestiality cannot be compared to consensual sex between two adults.  Only in the mind of a depraved, sick individual would they in any way be similar.

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

It harms the dog/horse.  It also gives it a bunch of human rights and legal rights that animals simply are not deserving of.  Obviously. "

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

" @BlackJedi: Animals cannot legally give consent and therefore cannot enter into a contract, which is what a marriage is. "

" I couldn't say this on gamespot because the mods there are crazy but, I do hope this gets over turned.. If it doesn't then there is no reason for many other things not to happen like a guy marrying multiple ladies  or guys or animals for that matter. This window opens up alot of possiblites that could happen. "

You will never be able to marry animals, for the same reason you can't marry children or a pile of sand.  These things cannot legally give consent.  Marital benefits are considered a pretty series thing. 
 
Question: What about countries with existing gay marriage?  Why aren't they filled with nothing but human-horse relationships?

" @Meowshi said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

It harms the dog/horse.  It also gives it a bunch of human rights and legal rights that animals simply are not deserving of.  Obviously. "

how does a woman having sex with a horse harm it? if anyone wants to do that they have rights to let them right? "

" @BlackJedi: Animals cannot legally give consent and therefore cannot enter into a contract, which is what a marriage is. "

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

Now you're just being silly.  It poses a threat of harm to the animal, which is unable to enter into a contract. "

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Animals cannot legally give consent and therefore cannot enter into a contract, which is what a marriage is. "

I am sure the rules can change for a person who wants to marry an animal just like the rules can be changed for a man to marry another man and a woman to marry another woman Iam sure. "

" @DVombatus said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

Now you're just being silly.  It poses a threat of harm to the animal, which is unable to enter into a contract. "

Not really, its not too hard to believe that some pets want to get it on, if our morals open the door to gay marriage then how can you not open the door to this? And say its wrong? the rules can be easily changed the morals is gone. "

" @BlackJedi said:

" @Meowshi said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

It harms the dog/horse.  It also gives it a bunch of human rights and legal rights that animals simply are not deserving of.  Obviously. "

how does a woman having sex with a horse harm it? if anyone wants to do that they have rights to let them right? "

Its fucking animal abuse, literally.  You can't be this dumb. "

^Obvious troll is obvious. 

LMAO, you guys are getting mad just because I don't agree on gay marriage.. its pretty funny lulz I heart you guys hahaha.

" @DVombatus said:

" @BlackJedi said:

" @TomWhitbrook said:

" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "

So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "

Now you're just being silly.  It poses a threat of harm to the animal, which is unable to enter into a contract. "

Not really, its not too hard to believe that some pets want to get it on, if our morals open the door to gay marriage then how can you not open the door to this? And say its wrong? the rules can be easily changed the morals is gone. "

Judges overturned a vote of the people? And we're celebrating?
 
If you want gay marriage in your state, then vote it in. The reality is that supporters can't even get enough votes in states like California and Mass. Because more people disagree with it than support it.

" @BlackJedi: Animals aren't sentient, and therefore cannot be considered "of sound mind" in order to enter into a contract. To alter that requirement for entering into a contract would be a far more significant and radical change to the law than simply treating people the same. "

" Judges overturned a vote of the people? And we're celebrating?  If you want gay marriage in your state, then vote it in. The reality is that supporters can't even get enough votes in states like California and Mass. Because more people disagree with it than support it. "

I don't see this passing. We still suck with our old ways of thinking.