Quick Note about Watchmen: My movie going experience

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Edited By turboman

Worst movie going experience I've had for a really good movie in a while... let me explain

a.) How fucking retarded are parents these days? Spiderman might be a movie suitable for kids, but there is a huge difference in a PG-13 comic book movie, and a Rated R Graphic Novel movie. Just because the characters wear masks doesn't mean that the movie is made for the kiddies. These weren't just 10-12 year old kids, IT WAS 5-8 YEAR OLD KIDS, SOME OF WHICH WERE GIRLS. Every 10 minutes all I heard was a little girl questioning what she's watching on the screen, and I'm sure the part about the child murderer's house gave her nightmare's for the rest of her life. Also, they left the theatre during the sex scene, cause we all know that viscous, bloody violence is ok for the kids, but as soon as we see some side boob everyone freaks out.

b.) We get it, there's a blue penis on the screen. I don't need to hear 10 males giggle and talk about it every time we see a penis on screen. I actually liked the fact that Dr. Manhatten is naked because it makes him even more God-like that he has no need for close. Maybe if you're not mature enough to tolerate a penis on-screen, this movie might not be for you.

overall, I'm sure I have to watch it again to fully appreciate it, but damn, what an epic movie.

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#1 Edited By turboman

Worst movie going experience I've had for a really good movie in a while... let me explain

a.) How fucking retarded are parents these days? Spiderman might be a movie suitable for kids, but there is a huge difference in a PG-13 comic book movie, and a Rated R Graphic Novel movie. Just because the characters wear masks doesn't mean that the movie is made for the kiddies. These weren't just 10-12 year old kids, IT WAS 5-8 YEAR OLD KIDS, SOME OF WHICH WERE GIRLS. Every 10 minutes all I heard was a little girl questioning what she's watching on the screen, and I'm sure the part about the child murderer's house gave her nightmare's for the rest of her life. Also, they left the theatre during the sex scene, cause we all know that viscous, bloody violence is ok for the kids, but as soon as we see some side boob everyone freaks out.

b.) We get it, there's a blue penis on the screen. I don't need to hear 10 males giggle and talk about it every time we see a penis on screen. I actually liked the fact that Dr. Manhatten is naked because it makes him even more God-like that he has no need for close. Maybe if you're not mature enough to tolerate a penis on-screen, this movie might not be for you.

overall, I'm sure I have to watch it again to fully appreciate it, but damn, what an epic movie.

15 years ago

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#2 Edited By Otacon

So far I'm on the liking but not loving side of things, perhaps because I went in not thinking the film would be as good as the book so was continuously picking at it. I'm going to see it again just to enjoy what is there and see if I have a more positive view of it.

15 years ago

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#3 Edited By Thunder

Ok ill be honest i did not read the comic before i went and saw the movie and it bored the hell out of me at first, but last night i was just sitting around talking about it with my friends and realized it was a much better movie then i initially thought. I thought that the action scenes were amazing by far my favorite being the ally scene. However, i did think the sex scenes were a little much, i dont mind one sex scene but they went a little overboard with that. The movie definitley had a deeper meaning then what i initially recognized and it makes me want to read the graphic novel and go see it again.

The movie was definitley an epic movie and deserves more credit then what it is getting.

15 years ago

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#4 Edited By turboman

well, anyone going in thinking it's an action movie will be dissapointed

This movie lets me dive into the universe, allows me to fully explore it, and gives me definite ending. It leaves me wanting to go back to the original material and reading it

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#5 Edited By Systech

I came into the movie knowing what I was getting into, but I was a little disappointed about how they added in the gratuitous sex scene. I found it to be completely unnessacary considering that didn't even happen in the graphic novel. I did enjoy the film in whole, however there were some things that could have been thrown out and the ending still would have felt modern if it was unchanged.

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#6 Edited By Thunder

systech said:

"I came into the movie knowing what I was getting into, but I was a little disappointed about how they added in the gratuitous sex scene. I found it to be completely unnessacary considering that didn't even happen in the graphic novel. I did enjoy the film in whole, however there were some things that could have been thrown out and the ending still would have felt modern if it was unchanged."

agreed however when i saw the movie i was expecting an action movie based off of the previews which i think was a mistake on their marketing teams part.

15 years ago

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#7 Edited By artofwar420

You're a little biased on the girls vs "males" thing. But you got a point.

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#8 Edited By JoelTGM

this is why I never go to the movie theater

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#9 Edited By Keeng

TurboMan said:

"Worst movie going experience I've had for a really good movie in a while... let me explain

a.) How fucking retarded are parents these days? Spiderman might be a movie suitable for kids, but there is a huge difference in a PG-13 comic book movie, and a Rated R Graphic Novel movie. Just because the characters wear masks doesn't mean that the movie is made for the kiddies. These weren't just 10-12 year old kids, IT WAS 5-8 YEAR OLD KIDS, SOME OF WHICH WERE GIRLS. Every 10 minutes all I heard was a little girl questioning what she's watching on the screen, and I'm sure the part about the child murderer's house gave her nightmare's for the rest of her life. Also, they left the theatre during the sex scene, cause we all know that viscous, bloody violence is ok for the kids, but as soon as we see some side boob everyone freaks out.

b.) We get it, there's a blue penis on the screen. I don't need to hear 10 males giggle and talk about it every time we see a penis on screen. I actually liked the fact that Dr. Manhatten is naked because it makes him even more God-like that he has no need for close. Maybe if you're not mature enough to tolerate a penis on-screen, this movie might not be for you.

overall, I'm sure I have to watch it again to fully appreciate it, but damn, what an epic movie.
"

I couldn't agree with you more about parents and their craziness. This is the kind of stuff that gets people suing video game makers and banning rap music.

15 years ago

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#10 Edited By Otacon

Heres an interesting thing, I dragged 4 of my friends to the midnight showing, two of which where girls who, on DVD nights bring out 'Ten Things I hate about you' etc. and the two guys had never heard of Watchmen before I told them about it. During the film I thought to myself, 'my friends are probably hating this', but it turns out that I was wrong. I had the worst things to say about the film, being an unpleasable fanboy, and all of them enjoyed it. In reply to systech, yeah the sex scene was more exaggerated than in the book, then so was a lot of the violence, alley scene etc. I think thats just something Snyder seems to do in his films.

15 years ago

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#11 Edited By jakob187

Thunder said:

"However, i did think the sex scenes were a little much, i dont mind one sex scene but they went a little overboard with that."

The graphic novel covers the initial scene with Nite Owl and Silk Spectre where Nite Owl can't get it up for about a page in the graphic novel, and the sex scene on Archie was only about a half a page...if I remember correctly. Nonetheless, I'm all for Malin Akerman doing some softcore porn. = D My only complaint (and God, I hate complaining about sex scenes) is that the scene was far too similar to the one in 300. Seriously, you could watch them side-by-side and it's hard to tell the difference. Nonetheless, I like Snyder's choice in women to get naked on-screen. = D

Other than that, there were slight small things that make a big impact taken out. The few things that me and my buddy were noticing were:

When Rorschach is taking the Rorschach test after being arrested, they don't show his wife leaving him (at least, I don't remember seeing it)...this is kind of important to the character
When Dr. Manhattan flashbacks to being a boy and his father is showing him how to put a watch together, they don't show his father getting pissed off because Dr. Manhattan can't do it...and his father throws the watch parts off the balcony...this is kind of important because it shows that he lost faith in mankind long before becoming Dr. Manhattan
During the prison scene, the dood that Rorschach wraps up on the cell door doesn't get his arms cut off in the graphic novel. He just gets his throat slit. Then, they use a cutting torch or something of the sort to cut the bars...not a grinder.
When Dr. Manhattan is having flashbacks about when he dismantles the tank and such, the graphic novel uses an old 1940s-style newsreel look for those scenes...but in the movie, that does not happen.

So as you can see, just these three things...it's very minor stuff. However, the smallest of things in Watchmen make a HUGE difference. Like Virago said, after the sex scene, things get a little loose on the adaptation...but with a revised ending, they kind of had to get a little loose. The same tone and themes are there, however...so it's not a lot that is lost in translation other than the exact things that happen in the graphic novel.

I'm more than confident, however, that little things like this will show up in the extended DVD cut of the movie. It would've been okay with me, though, if they would've cut out a couple of seconds from the sex scene and added in Rorschach's wife leaving him...because that's a HUGE moment during the Rorschach test for me personally.

Glad you are finding the movie now. This is definitely a conversation piece. I highly suggest reading the graphic novel, because aside from what you've seen, there are tons of "extra" documents throughout the graphic novel that give more backstory to everything. There is also...ya know...THE BLACK FREIGHTER!

15 years ago

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#12 Edited By AndrewGaspar

Haha. I saw this really fat eleven or twelve year old walk in with his kid sister and his mom. I bet they left at some point, but I wasn't watching. I did point it out to my friends when they walked in.

Having read the graphic novel, I obviously liked the novel better, but I'm not sure how I feel about the ending. On the one hand, I thought the comics' was more creative, but on the other hand, I like how in the movie the Earth turns away from the one character who was supposedly involved with the incident.

Over-all, it's a great adaptation, and I will definitely be buying the Director's Cut when it comes to Blu-ray.

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#13 Edited By turboman

artofwar420 said:

"You're a little biased on the girls vs "males" thing. But you got a point."

I never said this in the main post, which might make me sound a little biased on my tolerance between little girls and little boys, but the thing that bugged me more with the little kid being a girl at the age of about five was that she was exposed to a cock at an early age, which will lead her to question sex a little bit earlier than she should question it

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#14 Edited By jakob187

systech said:

"I came into the movie knowing what I was getting into, but I was a little disappointed about how they added in the gratuitous sex scene. I found it to be completely unnessacary considering that didn't even happen in the graphic novel. I did enjoy the film in whole, however there were some things that could have been thrown out and the ending still would have felt modern if it was unchanged."

Sys, I'm pretty sure the sex scene DID happen...even the afterburner part. I remember that pretty plainly. It just wasn't that big of a deal in the graphic novel.

The whole point of the build-up of sexual tension between Silk Spectre and Nite Owl doesn't make much sense in the movie because a lot of the stuff that shows how much of a wimp and a loser Nite Owl is wasn't played up enough. Had they shown some of the stuff from the graphic novel that points out why he is such a wimp and a quitter, it probably would've made more sense as to why he was so enamored with Silk Spectre after she left Dr. Manhattan.

So I think I'm more "dissatisfied" with the fact that they downplayed Nite Owl's wimpiness for the sake of showing some tits and ass. Again, though...it's Malin Akerman. That woman exuded sex from that suit and every scene she was in...and that's what Silk Spectre is all about.

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#15 Edited By Jensonb

Damn...I really wanna see this movie

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#16 Edited By ZombieHunterOG

in you first post turbo man you said close instead of clothes .....

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#17 Edited By jakob187

ZombieHunter said:

"in you first post turbo man you said close instead of clothes ....."

In your post, you said "you" instead of "your".

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#18 Edited By ZombieHunterOG

jakob187 said:

"ZombieHunter said:
"in you first post turbo man you said close instead of clothes ....."
In your post, you said "you" instead of "your"."

oh damn

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#19 Edited By RHCPfan24

The movie was great. Yeah. I did see a lot of young kids, and there was this really small girl that passed me on the aisle with her mom, and even before the movie started I knew it was going to be violent. The whole butcher knife scene in the head and the part with the arms getting cut off is way too extreme for children. I even found it a bit sickening. Still great though. Overall, I loved the movie, and now I need to read it haha.

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#20 Edited By Thunder

jakob187 said:

"Thunder said:
"However, i did think the sex scenes were a little much, i dont mind one sex scene but they went a little overboard with that."
The graphic novel covers the initial scene with Nite Owl and Silk Spectre where Nite Owl can't get it up for about a page in the graphic novel, and the sex scene on Archie was only about a half a page...if I remember correctly. Nonetheless, I'm all for Malin Akerman doing some softcore porn. = D My only complaint (and God, I hate complaining about sex scenes) is that the scene was far too similar to the one in 300. Seriously, you could watch them side-by-side and it's hard to tell the difference. Nonetheless, I like Snyder's choice in women to get naked on-screen. = D

Haha like i said though i never read the novel im going to now.

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#21 Edited By jakob187

Thunder said:

"jakob187 said:
"Thunder said:
"However, i did think the sex scenes were a little much, i dont mind one sex scene but they went a little overboard with that."
The graphic novel covers the initial scene with Nite Owl and Silk Spectre where Nite Owl can't get it up for about a page in the graphic novel, and the sex scene on Archie was only about a half a page...if I remember correctly. Nonetheless, I'm all for Malin Akerman doing some softcore porn. = D My only complaint (and God, I hate complaining about sex scenes) is that the scene was far too similar to the one in 300. Seriously, you could watch them side-by-side and it's hard to tell the difference. Nonetheless, I like Snyder's choice in women to get naked on-screen. = D
Haha like i said though i never read the novel im going to now. "

I forgot to mention that the sex scene with Dr. Manhattan and Silk Spectre is pretty fucking funny in the graphic novel, just like it was in the movie. = D

Also, I just found out that she got naked in The Heartbreak Kid also...so now I have to see that movie just because of it!

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#22 Edited By turboman

ZombieHunter said:

"jakob187 said:
"ZombieHunter said:
"in you first post turbo man you said close instead of clothes ....."
In your post, you said "you" instead of "your"."
oh damn "

oh snap!

clothes

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#23 Edited By pencil

correct me if i'm wrong here but...
Wasn't he supposed to tie/handcuff the guy to the fireplace and burn the house down. Telling him that he doesn't think the saw will cut through the handcuffs before the fire spreads... implying that he would have to cut off his arm or leg or whatever it was. I liked this a little more in the book, but the whole cleaver to the head really showed how angry Rorschach was in the film. not a complaint...just a question?

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#24 Edited By SathingtonWaltz

Dude, I totally understand how you feel about parents taking their children to see a movie like this. I haven't seen it yet, but the fact that parents don't even check the rating of the film and just assuming that costumes = kid friendly is ridiculous.

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#25 Edited By Zenexo

glad you liked it, i only seen one kid the second time I seen it and it was a girl. I never seen them leave...I totally agree with the second one though. It was bloody ridiculous!! I couldnt believe the immaturity the second time I went to see it. At the end some guy was literally complaining how bad the movie was because of "blue peepee" Wtf? I hate how people who hate movies always feel the need to shout it out but people who love it just leave with smiles.

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#26 Edited By turboman

yeah exactly...

maybe if the biggest thing you took away from the movie is the fact that you saw a penis a couple of times, you should probably take a good hard look at your sexuality.

15 years ago

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#27 Edited By jakob187

Zenexo said:

"I hate how people who hate movies always feel the need to shout it out but people who love it just leave with smiles."

When I went to see House of 1,000 Corpses opening night (which coincidentally was the same night that Scott Peterson was arrested for killing Lori, FYI), I went with my friend Pip. That dood isn't afraid to say anything to people that talk shit. At the scene where the camera pans out before the cop gets shot in the head, people started leaving the theatre in droves, throwing food and drinks at the movie screen.

Someone yelled, "THIS MOVIE SUCKS!"

Pip yelled, "WHAT? YOU FUCKING SUCK, BITCH!"

Person yells back, "WHAT YOU FUCKIN SAY, BITCH?! WANNA MAKE SOMETHIN OF IT?"

Pip quotes the greatest quote ever:

"HEY, WILL SOMEBODY SHUT THAT CUNT'S MOUTH BEFORE I GO DOWN THERE AND FUCKSTART HIS HEAD?"

Everyone shut the hell up and just went about their business. It was the single most amazing moment I've ever seen unfold in a theatre. THAT was worth the price of admission.

Then again...Pip is also the same dood that watched Passion of the Christ with his grandma at the theatres, and after the movie...while everyone was crying and leaving and being silent, he stood up, started clapping, and yelled "BRING ON THE SEQUEL!".

Man, now I'm really curious what he has to say about Watchmen. I need to go find where he's at.

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#28 Edited By fr0br0

I would lol if I saw one of those kid's face during that 6 year old being murdered scene. Then I would love to see their reaction to what happens to the murderer. I am so going to screw with my kids when I get them...

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#29 Edited By zitosilva

This whole penis thing is really surprising me... I didn't even think it appeared that many times on the movie. And, for crying out loud, it's just a fucking penis! Most of us here have one!

Oh, and I didn't like the movie. At all.

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