Sequels to debut albums that were better.

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#1  Edited By Vinny_Says

Hello,
 
Just wanted to know what artists out there have sequels to their debuts that are better than the debut. I know it's a weird question but you always hear: "His/her/their debut was so much better..." and a lot of times that's true. 
-It can be based on personal preference or just popular opinion
-It has to be the artist's second album, following the debut album only
-exceptions can be made if they work on side projects (such as my first example)
 
1.much better than his debut, it was his second solo album, he worked on 36 chambers before this with his fellow clan members who make numerous appearances on liquid swords.

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Their debut made them famous but this pushed them to superstars of heavy metal. Every song on this is a classic. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 What are some of your favorites?
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Metallica had a fairly sharp upward trend at the beginning of their careers. "Ride the Lightning" is better than "Kill 'em All." And "Master of Puppets" is better than "Ride the Lightning." 
 
Also "The Man Who Sold the World" was a lot better than "The Rise of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars." David Bowie, of course.

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#3  Edited By Sambambo

Trivium - Ember to Inferno < Acsendancy
Gallows - Orchestra Of Wolves < Grey Britain
Fall Out Boy - Evening Out With Your Girlfriend < Take This To Your Grave

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#4  Edited By DrPockets000

Silversun Pickups: "Swoon" was better than "Cranavas" 
Vampire Weekend: "Contra" was better than the S/T 
The Killers "Day and Age" was better than "Hot Fuss" and "Sam's Town" 

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1. Alice in Chains second album "Dirt", it pains me to say such a thing because every song by AIC is equaly godly, but Dirt had "Would" "Dam that River" "Rain when i die" & "Them Bones" so yea.
 
 
2. Deftones - Around the fur. 
 
 
Although the same can be said about every album they've put out, it seems with each album put out not only is it better than the previous but the newest one also gets even better ratings. well except for that self titled "Deftones" one but even that one had godly songs.    They've had a successful upward trend. 
 
By ratings the albums go like Diamond Eyes (2010) > Saturday Night Wrist (2006) >  White Pony (2000) > Deftones (2003) > Around The Fur (1997) > Adrenaline (1995) so yea they've pretty much had a success streak with their albums and ive just noticed that shit just now !

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 Mer De noms = amazing album.
 Thirteenth Step the best album i ever heard.
 
But yeah i wouldnt call albums "sequels". 

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"The Id" by Macey Gray.   Might be one of my favorite albums of all times.  Yes, I have diverse musical tastes.
 
Her first album was crap, although it had her breakout hit "I Try" on it, and sold a boatload of copies.
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#8  Edited By callumbay

Biffy Clyro's Vertigo of Bliss was better than Blackened Sky. Then they got progressively worse, but still good. Not as good as Vertigo though.

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#9  Edited By rabbitinthemoon

Radiohead - The Bends.  They should have quit there.

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#10  Edited By astrotriforce

Demon Hunter's "Summer of Darkness" was better than their self-titled debut album. 
 
The Showdown's "Temptation Come My Way" was way better and more diverse (but with a different sound) than their debut album "A Chorus of Obliteration". 
 
It's arguable and many would say that Flyleaf's debut self-titled album is superior to their second "Memento Mori". 
 
P.O.D.'s second album on Atlantic Records "Satellite" is FAR superior to their Atlantic debut "The Fundamental Elements of Southtown". 
 
With Faith or Flames second album, "A Conquest Triumphant", is superior to their debut "Beneath the Heel of Oppression" IMHO.

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The Marshall Mathers LP by Eminem was better than The Slim Shady LP. Ride the Lightning was better than Kill 'Em All. Gods of the Earth by The Sword is better than their first album, Age of Winters. Sublime's 40 oz. to Freedom is better than their first album Robbin' the Hood, although their major label debut "Sublime" was the best of all.

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#12  Edited By Synthballs

System of a Downs debut album was dominated by the follow up Toxicity.

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#13  Edited By Bruce
@DrPockets000:  
 
...Day and Age is not better than Hot Fuss and Sam's Town. I would choose "Read my Mind" over anything from Day and Age. 
 
There are a lot of examples of the sophomore album topping the debut. Here are the ones that come to mind for me. 
 
1. Daft Punk's Discovery 
 
2. Dirty Projectors' Bitte Orca 
 
3. Clipse's Hell Hath No Fury 
 
4. Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP 
 
5. The Antlers' In the Attic of the Universe  
 
6. Neutral Milk Hotel's In The Aeroplane over the Sea 
 
7. Beach House's Devotion  
 
8. St. Vincent's Actor 
 
Those are the ones I can think of where the sophomore album was a HUGE leap over the debut.
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#14  Edited By nintendoeats

Hey actually, yeah David Bowie. Space Oddity is much better than...whatever he did first...that hippie childish stuff is interesting, but not really good music.

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#15  Edited By demontium

Nice post. There should be a music division of Whiskey media.

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#16  Edited By dr_pineapple

Not a sequel but Blink 182 - Enema of the State. I personally think that's their best album.

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#17  Edited By DrPockets000
@Bruce said:
" @DrPockets000:  
 
...Day and Age is not better than Hot Fuss and Sam's Town. I would choose "Read my Mind" over anything from Day and Age. 
 
"Read My Mind" is a great song, but I love "Human", "Goodnight, Travel Well", "Spaceman", "Dustland Fairytale", and most of the songs on Day and Age more.  For me, they just outstrip the rest of what the bad has done.  It's a different feel for their music and I much prefer the direction it went in.
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#18  Edited By Undeadpool
@nintendoeats said:
" @Undeadpool said:
" Also "The Man Who Sold the World" was a lot better than "The Rise of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars." David Bowie, of course. "
 Now hold up there, Ziggy is a classic. also, MWSTW was the 3rd Bowie album, coming out 2 albums BEFORE Ziggy.
@rabbitinthemoon said:
" Radiohead - The Bends.  They should have quit there. "
Yes, Pablo Honey is a pile of pointless, but I think the music nerds all want to kill you now. "
I stand massively corrected!
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#19  Edited By Bruce
@DrPockets000:  
 
But it was like, ugh, so forgettable for me! I liked "Spaceman" a lot, but after a week I didn't even remember the album existed. I wish they were a more consistent band :(  
 
@FourWude:  
 
Yeah, I'm still listening to good music. Still being a twat no one cares about?
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#20  Edited By nintendoeats
@Bruce said:
" @DrPockets000:  
 
But it was like, ugh, so forgettable for me! I liked "Spaceman" a lot, but after a week I didn't even remember the album existed. I wish they were a more consistent band :(  
 
Not to mention that "are we human, or ar we dancers, my sign is vital, my hands are cold" is THE WORST LYRIC. EVER.
 
LIKE WORSE THAN THAT SONG ABOUT IRONY.
 
AND THAT COLDPLAY SONG ABOUT THE COLOUR YELLOW.
 
Very bad.
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#21  Edited By DrPockets000
@Bruce: Part of it may be that I listened the the band's albums in reverse order.  I got "Day and Age" for free through an online offer, then got hooked and listened to the other albums.  Or maybe I'm just not way far into the synthy dance music that the group started out with.  A lot of people disagree with me on my opinion on the album though.  To each his own. 
 
@nintendoeats: OK, I'll give you that.  Some of their lyrics fucking suck.  Nothing takes the cake like "Somebody Told Me" though.
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#22  Edited By FourWude
@Bruce said:
@FourWude:   Yeah, I'm still listening to good music. Still being a twat no one cares about? "
When you say good what you really mean is 'pretentious pile of crap'. As for caring Brucey, we live in a lonely world, and I am but one man.
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#23  Edited By nintendoeats
@DrPockets000 said:  
@nintendoeats: OK, I'll give you that.  Some of their lyrics fucking suck.  Nothing takes the cake like "Somebody Told Me" though. "
I actually love their first album, and don't mind most of the lyrics. Its quite alot like U2s war really...and just like U2, after that something went horribly wrong...
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#24  Edited By Bruce
@FourWude:  
 
Aw, so whadd'ya prefer Twat-O-Saurus Rex? A nice good ol' mainstream band like Zeppelin or ACDC?  
 
If all independent muzak is pretentiouz then that makez none of it pretentiouz.
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#25  Edited By DrPockets000
@nintendoeats said:
" @DrPockets000 said:  
@nintendoeats: OK, I'll give you that.  Some of their lyrics fucking suck.  Nothing takes the cake like "Somebody Told Me" though. "
I actually love their first album, and don't mind most of the lyrics. Its quite alot like U2s war really...and just like U2, after that something went horribly wrong... "
Never have been a fan of U2 at all....I didn't dig their "LOOK AT US WE'RE ACTIVISTS" slant.
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#26  Edited By Hot_Karl
@Bruce: Absolutely agree with your choices, specifically Daft Punk, Eminem & Clipse. 
 
For me, I think that Sound of Silver by LCD Soundsystem is somehow a large improvement on the still-excellent debut album.
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#27  Edited By FourWude
@Bruce said:
" @FourWude:   Aw, so whadd'ya prefer Twat-O-Saurus Rex? A nice good ol' mainstream band like Zeppelin or ACDC?   If all independent muzak is pretentiouz then that makez none of it pretentiouz. "
There's nothing wrong with listening to Independent music. I made no allusion to any such sentiments. It's YOUR choice in music that I disagree with.
 
Twat-O-Saurus Rex.... nice one, I lollersaured at that one.
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#28  Edited By nintendoeats
@DrPockets000 said:
" @nintendoeats said:
" @DrPockets000 said:  
@nintendoeats: OK, I'll give you that.  Some of their lyrics fucking suck.  Nothing takes the cake like "Somebody Told Me" though. "
I actually love their first album, and don't mind most of the lyrics. Its quite alot like U2s war really...and just like U2, after that something went horribly wrong... "
Never have been a fan of U2 at all....I didn't dig their "LOOK AT US WE'RE ACTIVISTS" slant. "
Thats the thing, with War they still had that young punk anger going for them. by the time they hooked up with Brian Eno (read: Joshua Tree) they turned into a bunch of stuffed-up knobs.
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#29  Edited By napalmtrees
@VinceNotVance said:  
For me, I think that Sound of Silver by LCD Soundsystem is somehow a large improvement on the still-excellent debut album. "
This.
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#30  Edited By nintendoeats

Oh, the Police. Regatta De Blanc beats the living dandies out of Outlandos D'amour.
 
They both have shit titles though.

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#31  Edited By DrPockets000
@napalmtrees said:
" @VinceNotVance said:  
For me, I think that Sound of Silver by LCD Soundsystem is somehow a large improvement on the still-excellent debut album. "
This. "
I will agree. 
 
@FourWude: And why don't you tell us what YOUR taste in music is?
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#32  Edited By BjornTheUnicorn
@VinceNotVance:
I think Sound Of Silver works much better musically, where the debut was kind of gimmicky (OH LOOK 8 MINUTE SONGS WITH HUMOROUS LYRICS). I still love Losing My Edge, Daft Punk is Playing at My House, and Never As Tired As When I'm Waking Up. I'd say This Is Happening balances the tone of those 2 album perfectly, although Sound of Silver might be my favorite 
 
 ON TOPIC: 
Pinkerton by Weezer (Someone had to say it) 
and The Sophtware Slump by Grandaddy. 
The debuts for those 2 bands are excellent, but compare to the sophomore efforts, aren't as good really.
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#33  Edited By FourWude
@DrPockets000 said:

@FourWude: And why don't you tell us what YOUR taste in music is? "

Some Funky trip-hop lite 2 dub step bluegrass indie jazz beats.  Just your average mainstream shit.
 
P.S. Anything that's NOT Lil' Wayne.
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#34  Edited By napalmtrees

I am a big fan of The Odd Couple by Gnarls Barkley.  Leaps and bounds better than their awesome debut.
 
Also, Proof of Youth by The Go! Team and It's Not Me, It's You by Lily Allen.

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#35  Edited By smitty86

just a few
 
Gorillaz - Demon Days > Gorillaz
Hot Hot Heat - Elevator > Make Up The Breakdown
M.I.A. - Arular > Kaya
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones > Fever To Tell
The White Stripes - De Stiji > The White Stripes
Kanye West - Late Registration > College Dropout
 
And Sam's Town > Hot Fuss> Day & Night
 
Also, no offense, but I can't stand people saying "Anything not Lil' Wayne." It is said so much that it is now just a generic phrase with no meaning and usually a poorly informed basis.

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#36  Edited By Jonathan
@rabbitinthemoon said:

" Radiohead - The Bends.  They should have quit there. "


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After Pablo Honey, the Bends is right behind Hail to the Thief as their worst album. Kid A is prefect.
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#37  Edited By nintendoeats
@Jonathan said:
" @rabbitinthemoon said:

" Radiohead - The Bends.  They should have quit there. "


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After Pablo Honey, the Bends is right behind Hail to the Thief as their worst album. Kid A is prefect. "
ok, lets remind everybody that, with exception of Pablo Honey, "worst Radiohead album" means "album which is better than 95% of other albums, but still not as good as some other things."
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#38  Edited By Jonathan

Ys - Joanna Newsom (went from an odd but intriguing freak folker, to releasing one of the greatest albums of the last decade)
Yellow House - Grizzly Bear  
The Bends - Radiohead 
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel 
Andorra - Caribou (not technically his second, but his second album that people cared about) 
Sound of Silver - LCD Soundsystem 
Space Oddity - David Bowie 
 
The ones off the top of my head.

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#39  Edited By Jonathan
@nintendoeats: Hail to the Thief (their worst after PH) is still probably my favorite album of 2003. They're utterly incredible.
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#40  Edited By Inf225

MGMT's second album was far better, less hipstery.
Mars Volta's Frances the Mute is a billion times better than De-loused.
LCD Soundsystem's Silver was better too.

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#41  Edited By tanline

Cassidy's "I'm A Hustler" was so much better than his first album.

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#42  Edited By sjosz

Muse:
Black Holes & Revelations > Absolution > Origin of Symmetry > Showbiz
 
Only one not there is their most recent, The Resistance, because it's clearly not better than Black Holes & Revelations.

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#43  Edited By rabbitinthemoon
@VinceNotVance said:
"For me, I think that Sound of Silver by LCD Soundsystem is somehow a large improvement on the still-excellent debut album. "
 
This.
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#44  Edited By mozzle

I'm sure no one will agree with me but --
 
Interpol - Antics  
 
Despite what most people say, I enjoy it far more then Bright Lights. 

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#45  Edited By fjordson

There are lots out there:
 
Bob Dylan's The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan

Lou Reed's Transformer

Neil Young's Everybody Knows This is Nowhere

The Stooges' Funhouse

Blur's Modern Life is Rubbish 
 
My Bloody Valentine's Loveless
 
New Order's Power, Corruption & Lies

Spacemen 3's The Perfect Prescription 
 
 The Brian Jonestown Massacre's Their Satanic Majesties' Second Request  
 
Roxy Music's For Your Pleasure
 
Cream's Disraeli Gears

Van Morrison's Astral Weeks
 
Happy Mondays' Bummed
 
Teenage Fanclub's Bandwagonesque

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#46  Edited By mozzle
@Fjordson said:
 
Bob Dylan's The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan


I would agree with you on that, however I'd like to add, that it's still not a good album, at least in my opinion. A few good songs on the first two albums, but that's all. Dylan really becomes his own on "The Times They Are A Changin"
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#47  Edited By Jonathan
@mozzle said:

" I'm sure no one will agree with me but -- Interpol - Antics   Despite what most people say, I enjoy it far more then Bright Lights.  "



 That reminds me of this thing I made 
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#48  Edited By fjordson
@mozzle:  I love Freewheelin'. The Times They Are A-Changin'  is classic as well, although my favourite pre-electric era Dylan album is probably Another Side of Bob Dylan.
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#49  Edited By zoozilla
@Fjordson said:
Blur's Modern Life is Rubbish 
This is one of my favorites.
 
Also, I thought U2's Achtung Baby, Zooropa, and Pop are pretty good.  I liked their 90's experimentation phase.
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#50  Edited By smitty86
@mozzle: 
completely agree. I thought Antics was a more complete album while brights lights (though good) started very strong then faded off mid way