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Posted by shinjin977 (759 posts) 2 months, 15 days ago

Poll: Settle my fight! Ketchup or Mayo? (557 votes)

Ketchup 72%
Mayo 28%

Got into an extremely heated debate with my friends over a couple of drinks after work. I am going to sum it up.

We had a couple dishes of food to go with the drink tonight and after a few drinks, I notice that everything on the table either have mayo on it or on the side (mostly japan fast food). I proceeded to say "this is kind of disgusting" because I prefer ketchup. My friends said "that's because you went to the states and got use to that eating habit." I said that is not true and it escalates from there. SETTLE THIS! That mother fucker owe me 5000 yen if I win.

#1 Posted by Jesus_Phish (791 posts) -

Anytime I see someone eating chips (fries) with mayo I feel like they're fucking savages. Ketchup. If you're using mayo instead you're doing it wrong.

#2 Posted by diz (918 posts) -

Both => Thousand Island Dressing

#3 Edited by DeadpanCakes (894 posts) -
#4 Posted by LiquidPrince (15947 posts) -

I don't understand what exactly the conditions are for you to "win." Are you asking what is the better condiment?

#5 Edited by shinjin977 (759 posts) -

I don't understand what exactly the conditions are for you to "win." Are you asking what is the better condiment?

yes sorry for not being clear. I have like 6 beers in me at the moment.

#6 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5007 posts) -

Mayo is love. Mayo is life.

#7 Posted by Ischar25 (27 posts) -

I'm from Holland, so I'll let this speak for itself:

#8 Posted by mjk0104 (205 posts) -

I'm Dutch (Genetically, and I lived there for 6 months), if you want mayo with your chips there, you can either have patat met or patat zonder (Literally chips with or chips without). Patat oorlog's the way to go though, mayo, spicy peanut sauce and raw onions.

But seriously, tomato sauce (Never actually had "Ketchup") is for meat pies, sausage rolls, and pizza bases.

#9 Posted by terror_shart (34 posts) -

Generally I would have to say Ketchup....unless we are talking about some real gourmet shit...like a nice Garlic Aioli

#10 Posted by DarthOrange (3864 posts) -

Mayonnaise is discussing in any and all situations. Ketchup is not.

#11 Posted by TheManWithNoPlan (5491 posts) -

Both have their places in my pallet.

#12 Posted by LiquidPrince (15947 posts) -

Both have their places in my pallet.

This. Depends on the food. Sometimes both? Also, I have soft spot in my heart for Mustard on Hot Dogs and Burgers.

#13 Posted by egg (1467 posts) -

ketchup is vegan

mayo is necessarily made with tortured chicken eggs

checkmate

#14 Posted by Raven10 (1789 posts) -

@mjk0104: Ketchup and tomato sauce are not the same thing. Ketchup is tomato based, but its texture is smooth. Think like a runnier tomato paste. You squirt it from a bottle like mustard or some store bought salad dressings. There aren't any chunks of tomato or other veggies in it. The ingredients also include sugar or syrup of some sort, and vinegar. The common American style is quite sour and often heavy on garlic, onions, and salt. I prefer the less common style which has a stronger tomato flavor and is sweet like a tomato jam with just a hint of vinegar. Regardless, ketchup is made from tomatoes but is nothing like the sauce you would put in a pie or on a pizza. It's a condiment like mayo or mustard. People don't generally put it on pizza or pasta.


It depends on the dish. For a sandwich (including a burger or hot chicken sandwich) I usually put both mayo and ketchup. Only sandwich like thing I don't like mayo on are hot dogs. As far as a dipping sauce goes, I enjoy mixing them together or using some sort of Aioli if the option is there. I guess the answer is probably both in most cases for me, but I openly admit that I put ketchup on many things most people wouldn't, including nuts, eggs, noodles, and honestly pretty much any meat or, grain, or veggie out there.

#15 Posted by Rebel_Scum (709 posts) -

Depends what the condiment is for. Life isn't so cut and dry for me.

Also surprised no one has mentioned Catsup.

#16 Posted by Neonie (438 posts) -

Whoa whoa whoa. I'll have absolutely no part in this. There should not be a war between ketchup or mayo. They are both equally delicious. Sometimes they are delicious together, sometimes apart. Where's the "both" option? Hell sometimes mustard can even be quite tasty.

#17 Edited by mjk0104 (205 posts) -

@raven10: Wait, what do you think tomato sauce is? In Australia, it's this stuff:

If it's anything but smooth, it's well and truely off, and probably infected with something...

Also, if you put it on pasta, your a goddamn monster.

#18 Edited by BabyChooChoo (4504 posts) -

On what though? On some sort of burger? Both. On a hotdog? Mustard is the only acceptable answer. On fries? No condiments at all because I'm not a fucking savage and I'm eating french fries the way the good lord intended us to eat goddamn french fries.

#19 Edited by T_wester (191 posts) -

I'm very biased against any tomato based products, but that's only because I'm allergic to tomatoes. I'm not event sure I remember the taste of ketchup. That said it's probably great on many things.

#20 Posted by Gaff (1751 posts) -

Depends on the food, but anything can go with fries / chips. You should try a light sprinkle of soy sauce. Or Picalilli.

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#21 Posted by Neonie (438 posts) -

No condiments at all because I'm not a fucking savage and I'm eating french fries the way the good lord intended us to eat goddamn french fries.

With no condiments and at least 2 packets of goddamn salt.

#22 Edited by Khessed (110 posts) -

@ischar25 said:

I'm from Holland, so I'll let this speak for itself:

Came here to post exactly this :P

#23 Posted by probablytuna (3660 posts) -

I dislike mayo. I'm ok with ketchup.

#24 Posted by Jesus_Phish (791 posts) -

@babychoochoo: Fries are nothing more than a ketchup delivery system. They're so you can get the delicious taste of ketchup without feeling like a freak for just eating it right out of the bottle. There are no other reason fries exist.

#25 Posted by Neonie (438 posts) -

@babychoochoo: Fries are nothing more than a ketchup delivery system. They're so you can get the delicious taste of ketchup without feeling like a freak for just eating it right out of the bottle. There are no other reason fries exist.

you clearly have never had a delicious french fry in your entire life. You have never savored a Rally's/Checkers fry. You have never gotten frys from mcdonalds and dumped a packet of salt on them. You have never ordered potato wedges at KFC. Shame on you for this horrible, inaccurate representation of french fries and how delicious they can be.

#26 Edited by RonGalaxy (3166 posts) -

mayo is gross egg goop. Ketchup is iight, but it isn't my favorite condiment. Mustard is the best for everything that isn't fries/onion rings/stuff like that. But, to answer your question, I prefer ketchup to mayo a million times over. But I am in the states and was raised with putting ketchup on stuff. Mayo is more a thing you put on a deli sandwich, tuna fish, egg salad but I still prefer mustard for that (and hate tuna and egg salad). Mayo with fries sounds disgusting.

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#27 Edited by Jesus_Phish (791 posts) -

@neonie: Oh, so you need salt for your fries? Get out of here you hypocrite! Clearly fries are just your salt delivery mechanism!

Also, we have chips were I come from. Chips are better than fries. Fries are thin and crappy with barely any filling. Chips are real. And I'm not talking about your packet chips (which are called crisps), I'm talking about these

#28 Posted by Olqavtoras (222 posts) -

Depends, if we're talking about fries than it's mayo all day long.

#29 Edited by Neonie (438 posts) -

@neonie: Oh, so you need salt for your fries? Get out of here you hypocrite! Clearly fries are just your salt delivery mechanism!ng about these

Only for mcdonalds fries.

I see your chips and I raise you potato wedges:

#30 Posted by Jesus_Phish (791 posts) -

@neonie: Wedges are pretty good too. I'm glad to see that the person whose about to eat them has the correct condiment next to them.

#31 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4504 posts) -

@jesus_phish: Any self-respecting wedge-eater would not use ketchup. Clearly that was photoshopped by a slimy pro-ketchup activist.

#32 Posted by MindBullet (163 posts) -

If it's specifially for japanese food, I'd say it usually goes best with mayo. That said, I only ever really like mayo on sandwiches or mixed with other condiments.

I actually have no love for ketchup at all. It feels like a 'filler' condiment. Like what you'd put on something when you don't have/don't know what else to use. It's boring and tasteless. It doesn't even really mix with anything well.

So it's a lose-lose for me.

#33 Posted by Dushanan (14 posts) -

ketchup is kinda gross. mayo is better. you know what are two great things that go on everything? ranch and barbeque sauce. now that's a discussion

#34 Posted by Jesus_Phish (791 posts) -

@babychoochoo: I'd agree. Wedges are best served solo, with whatever flavour they have coming from their coating. But if you were to use a condiment, it would be ketchup, because mayo is for savages.

#35 Posted by SharkEthic (1049 posts) -

Fries are thin and crappy with barely any filling.

Ugh, the filling is the worst part! I'm not trying to eat a goddamn potato here, I'm in this for the crunchy, salty, greasy outside of whatever came out of that deep fryer.

#36 Posted by development (2318 posts) -

Mayonnaise is the sweet pickle of condiments. Given the option of eating either something that tastes like sour underwear or something that tastes good with all your favorite horrible foods, I can't fathom why anyone would choose the sour underwear option.

Ketchup for president.

#37 Posted by mjk0104 (205 posts) -

Well, if we're getting into wedge territory, I'm a sour cream man, but wedges only need the lightest of condimenting, hence a light tasting condiment.

#38 Edited by Neonie (438 posts) -

@mjk0104 said:

I'm a sour cream man

Yuck! Sour cream is the worst! On anything.

#39 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11009 posts) -

I'm not a big fan of ketchup, but mayo is disgusting. So, I vote ketchup.

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#40 Posted by SlashDance (1814 posts) -

I'll eat mayo with a nice tomato salad, hardboiled eggs or cold meet.

Anybody who mixes mayo with hot food is a fucking animal, but I have to say mayo with japanese fast food somehow trumps everything else. Disgusting. You friend should be arrested for his crimes.

#41 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

I prefer Mayo as a condiment. It's so much more diverse, because it mixes with everything. Mayo and ketchup? Check. Mayo and hotsauce? Check. Mayo and mustard? Check. Mayo and whatever the fuck I want? Check. On fries though? I guess I prefer ketchup over regular mayo, though any souped-up kind of mayo would make the race here too. Delicious garlic mayo with chopped olives and freshly ground black pepper and a squirt of zesty fresh lemon? Yes please.

#42 Edited by Zevvion (1872 posts) -

Completely depends on the food you're eating. Overall, I prefer ketchup as a dip. For example, I dip my fries in ketchup, I dip frikandel through ketchup (Dutch snack), I drag my patatoes through ketchup and so on. I prefer some snacks with mayo though, like bitterballs (Dutch snack) if I'm using any that is.

However, as far as preparing food goes, mayo obviously wins. I can't think of any meal where one of the ingredients I use is ketchup. Whereas I can think of countless where mayo is an ingredient. Tuna salad for instance.

So my answer would be: as an ingredient, mayo. As a dressing or dip, ketchup.

@mjk0104 that looks like ketchup, not tomato sauce. Tomato sauce is the stuff you mix with pasta like spaghetti. It's the stuff that's on a pizza.

#43 Posted by mrfizzy (1529 posts) -

@mjk0104 said:

@raven10: Wait, what do you think tomato sauce is? In Australia, it's this stuff:

If it's anything but smooth, it's well and truely off, and probably infected with something...

Also, if you put it on pasta, your a goddamn monster.

In the US that would be called ketchup. When they talk about "tomato sauce" they are generally referring more to a tomato based pasta sauce from my experience.

As others on here have said, it depends on what food we are talking about. Both tomato sauce (ketchup) and a good whole egg mayo have their place. Sometimes that place is together, sometimes it is not. I find myself being adaptable when it comes to my condiments.

#44 Edited by Zeg (88 posts) -

F all that noise:

... but since this is a question/choice, Ketchup.

#45 Posted by Tonylope (194 posts) -

Depends what type of mayonnaise.

Normal mayonnaise? No thanks.

Japanese mayonnaise? Definitely, it tastes so much better.

Of course there is the possibility I'm a little bit crazy, one of the things I'm looking forward to when I go to Japan is trying a pizza with mayonnaise on it.

#46 Posted by AMyggen (3043 posts) -

Mayo is disgusting, so ketchup wins by default!

#47 Edited by Gaff (1751 posts) -

@zevvion: You monster. Croquettes and bitterballen should be eaten with mustard.

Also, F ketchup.

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#48 Posted by Zevvion (1872 posts) -

@gaff: I don't like mustard. I like it as an ingredient when I'm making a sauce, but bare mustard is disgusting to me. In almost every establishment, bitterballs are served with both mustard and mayo though. They are both standard choices.

#49 Posted by Raven10 (1789 posts) -

@mjk0104: Here that term is used for the tomato based sauces put on Italian dishes like pasta and pizza. Marinara sauce is another common term for a straight tomato sauce, but the term also encompasses any pasta sauce with a tomato base such as a vodka sauce like one would put on Penne, the tomato component of a meat pie, the tomato base used to make pizza, and occasionally even heavily spiced tomato based sauces used in Indian cooking like Korma (although this is far less common).

Looking through the website of Master Foods, tomato sauce would be what would be found on this page:

http://www.masterfoods.com.au/cooking-sauces/

The ones with a tomato base would be a tomato sauce. And the things on the sauces page would be called condiments, along with the mustards and relishes. Basically if it goes on a sandwich or any sort of dish that involves meat, veggies, or cheese on or in some sort of bread it's a condiment. If you cover a cooked grain like pasta or rice with it then it is a sauce. Savory pies with meat, cheese, egg, or veggies are not generally eaten in America. Pies here almost exclusively contain fruit so we don't have a specific term for sauces put inside of a crust. You'd generally refer to a pie as being filled and an animal or veggie as being stuffed. Therefore an internal sauce is either a stuffing or a filling. A sauce here is poured over something not found within it. So in the case of a pie, the only time you would have a sauce would be if there was say some sort of gravy poured over the pie after it was cooked. Finally if you would put it on a salad then it is a dressing regardless of whether or not you would also use it as a sauce, filling, or condiment (like a blue cheese salad dressing).

#50 Posted by helvetica (94 posts) -

Best place for ketchup: In the mouf.
Best place for mayo: In the hair as it can be used a conditioner, giving luster and shine.

I've turned into a bit of a ketchup snoot and only enjoy Annie's Organic Ketchup.