Eh, I mean it might make things better without annoying teenagers, I'm just a fan of being able to go and do whatever I want if I'm not disturbing anyone.
My way of thinking tends to go straight to the worst case scenario of overzealous security guards asking everyone they consider young to see their I.D., and how irritating that would be.
The mall can do whatever they want since it's privately owned, but malls always feel like such public places and hangouts that not letting anyone take pictures and video in the stores, and making parental guidance mandatory starting fairly early in the evening seems a little over the top.
What you wrote here makes me wonder if you're actually over the age of 17. Why does this bother you so much? You either 17 or under or just look extremely young while still at an older age. Either way, I have nothing against you, but this is one of the last things you should be worrying about man.
Children and teenagers especially are terrible creatures in public places to deal with when they aren't behaving responsibly and maturely, the opposite of which is very rare. If their weren't a rampant series of problems in dealing with such people then such rules wouldn't need to be enforced.
A lot of teenagers suck, so that sounds like a win for us adults to me.
A lot of people suck full stop. I'm 28 & even when I was a bairn I can't imagine wanting to hang out at a shopping centre, the goal was always "in & out with a new CD as fast as possible". But singling out teenagers is douchey. They are no worse than when we were teenagers, & we were no worse than our parents. It's revisionist to pretend otherwise.
I don't know. At first I agreed with the OP. It does sound really dumb and if I was under 17 I would have been offended too. But I'm guessing this didn't come out of nowhere. I'm guessing there had to have been incidences for the shop owners and mall administrators to feel that they had to approve of such a big change. So, really, the ones who are at fault for the new change are those teenagers who acted in such a way to cause the mall authorities to think of doing this. If anyone is to be blamed blame the shitty teenagers who acted poorly.
This. Businesses don't cut out potential customers that are peacefully shopping around. They throw out people who annoy the other customers away. I, personally, don't see an issue with the rule.
Meanwhile, if you want to get really pissed, in Charlotte, NC, anyone under the age of 16 (may be 17) cannot be out after 11:00 PM unless accompanied by an adult. In the whole city. This is a major city we're talking about here.
It's not dumb at all! It's awesome. It's made a very popular mall in the Milwaukee area bit more enjoyable to visit. Though the area isn't "ghetto" (it's actually a nice shopping area) for years the mall has had car break-ins and teens hanging around the food court jumping around and knocking shit over. When Barbershop II sold out there was a riot that lead to broken store windows, security gates being deployed, and a security guard getting her arm broke when she was beaten. Not to mention all the fights and intimidation the fuckers would impose on the average movie goers.
In the past year they finally instituted a policy where anyone under 18 cannot be without an adult at any time during the day. It's made the mall somewhat enjoyable again.
I guess I could see how that might be kind of frustrating if you were a teenager, but it doesn't really see that dumb or crazy. It's their shopping center and the rule doesn't seem that over the top.
A lot of teenagers suck, so that sounds like a win for us adults to me.
A lot of people suck full stop. I'm 28 & even when I was a bairn I can't imagine wanting to hang out at a shopping centre, the goal was always "in & out with a new CD as fast as possible". But singling out teenagers is douchey. They are no worse than when we were teenagers, & we were no worse than our parents. It's revisionist to pretend otherwise.
Speak for yourself; my parents didn't let me go anywhere with friends.
I kind of feel bad for the kids, the good ones anyway. It wasn't that long ago that I was underage and the mall was one of the few places we had to just go and chill.
So be over 17, don't take obnoxious pictures and video in the mall, and don't walk around with your pants at your ankles. Problems solved.
EDIT: Not talking about you by the way. Also have you been around kids under 17 recently? I can fully understand why they do not want them in the mall after certain hours.
How old are you. Just asking because you sound like you're 60.
I work in a supermarket. Kids both hanging around outside the store AND coming into the store in large groups in the evening is a major annoyance. They act like they own the place and it intimidates genuine customers. It's a real pain in the ass. I'd love a rule like that. I'm sure sure that rule in your mall is in place to stop similar shit like we get. I'm sure if kids acting maturely and on their own or in small groups go to the mall after 6, they won't be questioned. The rule will just be there to stop the big intimidating groups of idiot teenagers that group around area's like that. So the security have a genuine, concrete reason to eject them from the premises when they're causing problems.
Hate to be that guy, but there's something wrong with your society when one group of people feels the need to ban a non-behavioral group of people from a public area. The fault could be on either side er even somewhere completely different, but something has gone wrong somewhere. Discriminating people based on age, that's pretty much up there with gender and race.
You don't want to show your ID to get into the theater? Aww. The policy may be frustrating, but it's not all that bad for you. Just be glad you're not under 17, and dealing with those BS rules.
Hate to be that guy, but there's something wrong with your society when one group of people feels the need to ban a non-behavioral group of people from a public area. The fault could be on either side er even somewhere completely different, but something has gone wrong somewhere. Discriminating people based on age, that's pretty much up there with gender and race.
Pretty disappointed I don't see more comments like this.
EDIT: Actually, reading the later pages, I see more. All is well.
I think this is actually a pretty common policy at malls, its there to prevent kids form just hanging around the mall after school and possibly getting into fights and other shenanigans.
I don't think I ever went to a mall as a minor without the supervision of an adult. I always thought that hanging out at the mall was something people did on TV and in movies.
I wish that would be applied to the mall and theater in my town. Although, I'd rather have them be obnoxious in the lobby, then in the actual theater texting. I hate people who text during movies.
A mall is private property. They can refuse you service if they wish. They've legal right to not allow people to stay inside the mall if they can't provide proof that they are of legal age when they aren't accompanied by a parent.
Ultimately this is to make sure they aren't liable for anything that happens to the mall. It makes sense to me from that stand point, but it is still a little nanny-stateish.
I don't think I ever went to a mall as a minor without the supervision of an adult. I always thought that hanging out at the mall was something people did on TV and in movies.
If your hometown is boring as shit like mine (though I'd say that I've been to much less interesting towns than mine own), and your only options are stay at home, go to the movie theater or go to the mall, then yeah, mall is a reasonable place to waste time. Especially if you're a teenager.
My hometown was pretty boring, but I generally ended up choosing the stay at home option.
So be over 17, don't take obnoxious pictures and video in the mall, and don't walk around with your pants at your ankles. Problems solved.
EDIT: Not talking about you by the way. Also have you been around kids under 17 recently? I can fully understand why they do not want them in the mall after certain hours.
I agree with this. :D
If you're there to see the movie, you walk in, you see movie, you walk out.
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