" @ryanwho: What are you talking about? You're right, most romances do have a lot of romance. And I don't like romances for that reason. There aren't visual consistencies in American animation. Batman TAS doesn't look like The Simpsons. The Simpsons doesn't look like South Park. South Park doesn't look like Family Guy. Family Guy doesn't look like Rug Rats. Rug Rats doesn't look like Doug. Doug doesn't look like ExoSquad. ExoSquad doesn't look like TaleSpin. TaleSpin doesn't look like Hey Arnold. Hey Arnold doesn't look like TMNT. Anime usually looks the same. And I happen to dislike the aesthetic they chose to go with. And I don't like tentacle rape. And I don't like dick girls. And I don't like sparkly fields of hyperspace where people throw pokeballs. And I don't like super deformed bullshit. So I don't like anime. It's that simple. "Midori Days doesn't look like Karas. Karas doesn't look like Red Garden. Red Garden doesn't look like Porko Rosso. Porko Rosso doesn't look like Afro Samurai. Afro Samurai doesn't look like Now Then Here and There. Now Then Here and There doesn't look like XXXHolic. See it's easy. Also Dick girls and rape? You can't put porn and not porn together. I don't like live action gay porn so I must not like Pulp Fiction.
So what is with the distain for anime?
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So people dislike anime, because it doesn't always take itself serious and has its own style. Makes perfect sense to me.
Wow, really?
@ChristOnIce
said:"I gave plenty of facts. Your infantile refusal to address them notwithstanding, let me reiterate for the nth time:
Anime lacks cultural diversity because it is nearly always from a Japanese perspective.
Anime lacks witty dialogue.
Anime lacks subtext with depth.
For these reasons, it will appeal to a smaller audience than diverse mediums. All you have to do to gain your first point in the argument is address those points adequately. Let me guess, having to read the mean man's repeated reiteration of your failure to understand basic arguments makes you too bored to think or afford an attempt at argument.
By the way, when noting one's arrogance, it is best to pay attention to your language. "Overinflated self-importance" indicated genuine importance. "Overinflated sense of self importance" is probably what you were aiming for. Better luck next time. If you keep trying, you may find yourself having made a clever remark one day. "
You have no facts. You have opinions. Opinions which not only show how little you actually know but are also bordering on being racist. For this one post, I will do what I do with all children, I will entertain your opinion because you, as with most children, are incapable as recognising the salient difference between fact and opinion. I do this as a way to help children learn this difference, as I will with you.
So off we go:-
"Anime lacks cultural diversity because it is nearly always from a Japanese perspective."
Like most countries, Japan is made up of many different regions and each of those regions have their own localised laws, subcultures, trends, cultural and lingual idioms and other cultural variances usually but not always delineated by each of the regional prefectures which are subdivisions of these regions with the exception of the island Hokkaido which is a region and prefecture of its own. I'm not going to go into much detail here as you don't deserve the effort, but you can do some research on this on your own time. Suffice to say, that Japan, like America, like almost every country in the world has variances and while to your ignorant eyes it all seems the same, it's really quite different from region to region and Anime, as with any artform, reflects these differences quite strikingly both in the way it portrays people as influenced by their local idioms and culture and also in the way in each Anime's story is crafted based on these influential differences which affect the creators of the artform at every level.
By the same token, would you say that every example of American cinema and/or animation is the same because it lacks cultural diversity? No, of course not because cultural differences have influence over every art form, especially within a single country and every single country has diversity at some level. Japan actually has a lot more cultural diversity than America because it has been through many different cultural upheavals and continues to diversify even to this day.
"Anime lacks witty dialogue."
No. Anime is rife with wit, even if it has suffered poor translation. It may not seem clever to you, but then you think that Anime lacks cultural diversity because it's Japanese.
"Anime lacks subtext with depth."
(I'm not sure how you can have subtext without depth, but let's ignore that and move on.)
Anime is, especially in terms of cinema, always heavily laden with deep subtext and multiple meanings. Astro Boy was actually known as 'Mighty Atom' in Japan and he was created Ozuma Tezuka by to be nuclear (atomic) powered as a comment on the tenacity of the Japanese people who survived the Tall Boy and Fat Man nuclear bombs which were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki respectively at the close of WW2. It was his idea to turn what had been a terrible tragedy into a vision of hope where man and (nuclear) machine could co-exist to betterment of the world. You must understand this in context, imagine if two of your major cities had been wiped out by nukes and your whole country was in tatters, don't you think that would have some influence over the cultural trends into the future? I do and games like Wasteland and Fallout riff off the same exact influences yet they go for the sarcasm and black humour angle because that is something which works particularly well in post 50s America and American influenced cultures. However, pre 50s the world on the whole was a lot less sarcastic and tended to go for the heartstrings rather than the funny bone. Still, subtext is subtext no matter which angle it's aligned to and Anime is filled with subtext.
"Anime lacks philosophical gravity."
Another example is Ghost in the Shell. There's a huge library of subtext in the whole arc of both movies and the three TV series with many different characters, computers, conspiracies and the rest all reflecting different layers (some at multiple levels and at the same time) of subtext. This is example is from Season 1 of Ghost in the Shell :Stand Alone Complex the TV series. It about a Hacker who calls himself The Laughing Man who uses a calling card hack technique which obscures his face from view (by hacking people's cybernetic brains and eyes - which almost everyone has in that context) to replace his face with this:-
the text rotates around the face and is a quote from J.D. Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye" which refers to being able to hide in plain sight :-
(the text in book continues)
It's also a double meaning logo because The Laughing Man was also a short story by J.D. Salinger which means that the hacker dropped two clues because he actually wanted to be discovered all along, but so much bureaucracy and mismanagement always seems to get in the way (which probably leads to him feeling frustrated at their stupidity and so he keeps upping the ante getting more and more bold with each hack). While a whole investigation failed once to capture him thinking incorrectly he was a terrorist, another later investigation leads to the conclusion that he was actually a rather lonely, yet brilliant orphaned child, who had been passed around the child welfare system and never had found a real sense of home. When his hacking leads him to the high tech Section 9 investigative team who deal in extremely volatile and complex operations he finds out that the team is led by a one Major Motoko Kusanagi a cyborg specialist, of a team of specialists - all experts in their fields, who has delved deeper into AI entities than anyone he knows and so now he feels a sense of potentially finding someone who might be able to actually understand him, so he can drop the illusion of being a 'deaf mute' (something he also does in real life too) and actually have a sense of belonging. This is the arc of the show's first season and so takes many episodes to be completely revealed and understood, all the while other investigations are going on too and important people are being hacked in plain site (the reason for Section 9's involvement in the first place) and so there many subtexts happening at the same time including governmental mishandling of lost and orphaned children (some of whom may or may not have been subjected to illegal testing of drugs and cyber implants). At the close of the episode and season he is offered a job with Section 9 and finds when the tables are turned and there's no more game to play he's not actually sure what he wants. In essence all this ongoing drama is a caused by a neglected and mishandled child and while it was all tense and complex the truth of it is, like in real life, when you drill down to the basics must of us are like lost children in the dark and when the lights come on and the potential realities that could have been all collapse away in the singular reality of a well lit room we also don't really know what we want. Often the journey is a lot more interesting than the destination."That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life"
Anime appeals to a huge audience, just think in America alone, how many cosplayers turn up at all the different 'cons around the country and those are just the hardcore fans who can be bothered dressing up, let alone going to a 'con at all. Then mull over the fact that Anime has been played in French cinemas to day and nighttime audiences in record number since the 50s. France, a country which is the center of the cultural world in terms of cinema, classical arts, food and fashion. A place which, unlike you, is not boring.
Being able to find missing words in posts doesn't make you clever, it just makes you annoying and as I already stated boring.
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