Some of the Health Care plan - in plain english

The next day . . . *edit*

sorry,  please summarize that a little bit more...

Some of those sound REALLY scary. The government now is legally obligated to have full access to my bank account? The government cannot be sued? Where's the balance of power here?

Awesome another dolt who barely understands legislation passed in his country. Somehow I just knew this was gonna be another moronic thread bashing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act when the OP linked to some douchebag's blog rather than the act itself.
 
@Bones8677:
@ch13696:
Until this guy can provide the actual sections, subsections and provisions that outright prove what the OP is claiming to be true, do yourselves a favor and read the act for yourselves.
 
  http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Health_Care_Affordability_Act

" @organicalistic_: Summary - Americans are getting screwed.  In the anus. "

Nothing against you but is there a way I can see if this is true. The media likes to bend stuff to make it look real bad. Well, what is upsetting me is Page 50. Basically why do I have to pay but people that are not from here don't have to. Pretty crazy.

"• Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan."   
 
ACORN doesn't exist anymore, it was shut down recently, I have a hard time trusting the validity of all the other ones now through the use of an already dead talking point. At least from this source, I'll just read all the other ones that talk about how shit the bill is in many respects.

" Some of those sound REALLY scary. The government now is legally obligated to have full access to my bank account? The government cannot be sued? Where's the balance of power here? "

I have a penis!

" @Bones8677 said:

" Some of those sound REALLY scary. The government now is legally obligated to have full access to my bank account? The government cannot be sued? Where's the balance of power here? "

Government has always had that power, guess what happens when don't pay the IRS for long enough. "

" Awesome another dolt who barely understands legislation passed in his country. Somehow I just knew this was gonna be another moronic thread bashing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act when the OP linked to some douchebag's blog rather than the act itself.
 
@Bones8677:
@ch13696:
Until this guy can provide the actual sections, subsections and provisions that outright prove what the OP is claiming to be true, do yourselves a favor and read the act for yourselves.
 
  http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Health_Care_Affordability_Act "

"I have a penis! "

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/22/health-reform-bill-summary_n_508315.html
 
This is better.

" I have a penis! "

" @Snipzor: Yep, a quick google search proves you're right.  The article I linked to was written in July of 2009.  Now I'll admit I'm not the foremost authority on how bills and such are passed in the government, but things may have changed a bit.  I'm totally open to see some changes in the bill, or at least a link showing there have been some changes applied to it in the past 6+ months. "

why is this article is from July 30, 2009? Is there anything more recent?

" @organicalistic_: Summary - Americans are getting screwed.  In the anus. "

Just to clarify, I'm not freaking out about this bill only because abusing it, would be just too stupid even for the US government.

Alright, you seem like you're upset and trying to maintain an objective look at this health care plan. People have, and I could easily, go on and on about how awesome healthcare is, but I won't, because in a couple of years, maybe even a decade, you'll understand. The government has agreed to take care of everyone and anyone (good in my eyes, maybe I misread your tone) who is in their country. They also allow you the independence to avoid lines or whatever you might be afraid of and go private if you feel you can afford it. Look at me, I said I wouldn't talk about why it's good. ANYWAYS. 
 
Canada's had healthcare for years, and contrary to popular belief, we haven't yet descended into anarchy because of it. In fact, the vast majority of us praise it and, speaking from experience, when we reach the age and find out that the U.S. doesn't (didn't) have healthcare, we're astonished. Even now when we see people rallying against it, we don't understand. Anyways, I'll check back later and see if anyone actually wants to know more of my opinion (haha, right?) but basically, give it a chance. 
 
I'll finish with the most important part to me: it WILL save lives.

" @Claude said:

" I have a penis! "

Derailment, successful! "

The OP is retarded. There is no public option inclosed into the bill. It simply says that by 2014 every American citizen must have an insurance policy with a private company. If the person cannot afford this than the government will subsidize this and pay for the person's healthcare. Its very similar to Germany or Switzerland's system which has universal healthcare without the public option, but rather has hyper competitive private agencies who are heavily regulated and must compete thoroughly against one another. 
 
There are great things in this bill. A child stays under their parents healthcare until they are 26. Ridding the issue of college students without healthcare because they can't afford it. 
 
A child cannot be turned down for coverage due to a preexisting condition. 
 
Being a women is no longer a preexisting condition. i.e. women can no longer be turned down for coverage due to past spousal abuse and even pregnancy. 
 
Insurance companies cannot place caps on coverage. In past years an insurance company could cut off their payments when a certain dollar point was reached, therefore stopping thee treatment of the said person. 
 
Do your own research and have an actual discussion with people, rather than watching slanted news headlines. Watch "Out Foxed" and you'll see the real reason why fox news covers news like they do. Oh wait, they don't cover news. They cover their biased opinions on an issue. But that's another story. 
 
For the average American this is great, don't let conservative media make you think otherwise. They are big business and therefore they are attempting to protect themselves rather than to inform the people.

" @Snipzor said:

" @Claude said:

" I have a penis! "

Derailment, successful! "

I also have a ball sack. I call bullshit. Most people say this will help the insurance companies. More costumers means more profit, plus the government will guarantee it with the help of IRS control. There is no government option dip shits, the monies will be given to the insurance companies. How do you think it passed? Don't let the vote between the Republicans and Democrats fool you... games were played. "

i really wish i could get an unbiased summary of it but that really isnt possible i guess
ill just read it on my own on my next day off

ok so, I get health care automatically and it's my employers responsibility to enroll me? That sounds awesome, because it's too much trouble otherwise. Stop complaining.

"From CMS at FreeRepublic.com"
 
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You got that from FreeRepublic.com and you're posting it as fact?   
 
Why don't I just make up some bullshit right-speak instead. 
 
- Page 22 says that abortions will now be mandatory 
- Page 45 says that "The Gays" will get better healthcare than anyone else 
- Page 99 says that all doctors are required to participate in sodomy  
 
An American friend of mine told me the only things that ACTUALLY got changed was that insurance companies can no longer deny medicare over the pre-existing condition clause.  

Taxes go up! And if you don't get insurance you get fined $700! AWESOME!

LMAO OP. 
 
No face palms yet? Giantbomb, I am disappoint.

Awesome, ancient misinformation written with the tone of a conspiracy theorist!
 
Will somebody lock this thread? I don't want to be a Debbie Downer but there's really no benefit to filling the forum with alarmist nonsense.

Damn those Democrats. They're going to tax us all, and spend that money on abortions and unplugging old people. They're going to bankrupt us all with their soviet communist scum ideas. Pretty soon, Michael Moore will be declared the next president without a vote, and abortions and legal weed-smoking will be mandatory for all pregnant mothers, destroying our population. They will start creating communist robots that will force Russia to become the USSR once more, and China, Cuba, the newly formed USSR, and the USA will all join to be the first soviet communist galactic empire federation of the the universe.
 
Oh, and has already been stated, this article is bullshit. Its literally a forum post by some dude on the internet. And oh hey, I'm a dude on the internet, so go ahead and post my above quote as news. Thanks.

" Some of those sound REALLY scary. The government now is legally obligated to have full access to my bank account? The government cannot be sued? Where's the balance of power here? "

Any country that doesn't give its citizens access to free healthcare needs to take a long, hard look at itself.
 
Seriously.

" Any country that doesn't give its citizens access to free healthcare needs to take a long, hard look at itself.  Seriously. "

 fallacies of the site lol.  Read it for more than 3 seconds.

" Any country that doesn't give its citizens access to free healthcare needs to take a long, hard look at itself.  Seriously. "

Death camps!

"I don't like taxes going up, and I hate giving the government my money that I work for...I found out I owe almost 2k in taxes this year, and I haven't worked in the States since my HS years.  O_O  In Japan my company took care of me, in the States all my friends and family are taken care of by their companies, and that's how it works here.  We have an ER system that gives them free health care regardless. "

" I have a penis! "