#1 Posted by audioBusting (1477 posts) -

I watched the last 20 minutes of Spy Kids: All the Time in the World on TV and boy it is dark. Oh, spoiler alert, if anyone cares about the story in Spy Kids 4.

The villain's (named Timekeeper, I think) backstory is that he is frozen in time in a laboratory accident as a boy and watches his father work himself to death trying to unfreeze him. He is unfrozen when some people found some kind of sapphire from outer space that disables the time machine, but by then he is a traumatized adult mind in a kid's body. He wants to go back in time and unfreeze himself to save his father, so he becomes a supervillain who makes all sorts of time machine. It is revealed at the end that all of his minions are his future alternate-selves who went back in time after they all failed to save his father to help their past self to succeed. He succeeds going back to the past, but his older self returns to the present seconds later, I think after his father dies (spoiler: everybody dies) to tell the spy kids that being fixated on the past is pointless and that we should live for the future. Note that he is a very old man at this point. He is saying that his entire time-looped life has been pointless. The spies arrested one of his future selves who went mad and the spy baby beats his ass.

This makes me feel sad.

Have you ever seen anything like this in a book/movie/game/etc, where some parts of it is incredibly dark while the rest of it is incredible shitty family-friendly bullshit?

#2 Posted by pakalolobro420 (42 posts) -

sounds good

#3 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4308 posts) -

Wot

#4 Posted by Sackmanjones (4652 posts) -

Thanks?

#5 Posted by Demoskinos (14578 posts) -

Spoilers: Aeris Dies

#6 Posted by habster3 (3595 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

Spoilers: Aeris Dies

You fucking monster, I was still playing that!

Sounds kind of dark, admittedly. Still, I'd prefer for my children's entertainment with some dark elements to be of good quality (not very common, but I can think of a couple of cases).

#7 Posted by Petiew (1332 posts) -

RIP in peace Timekeeper. That does sound pretty dark though, but more interesting than the usual outcome of these movies. I remember loving the first Spy Kids when I was young, but it was probably awful even at the time.

#8 Posted by Baillie (4039 posts) -

@Petiew said:

RIP in peace

Still can't get over how fucking stupid that phrase is, it's like people forget what they're saying. Not directing this towards you, Petiew, it's just fucking horrible to read. Rip in piece makes ZERO sense even read aloud.

#9 Posted by Petiew (1332 posts) -
@Baillie: Oh yeah, I know it's terrible and makes no sense. It's mostly just used when you're not being entirely serious, like lamenting the death of a fictional character.
I asume that's how most others use it as well, the amount of people that say "Rest in peace in peace" seriously are few and far between.
#10 Posted by Apparatus_Unearth (3111 posts) -

I really liked the second movie, HATED all the rest.

#11 Posted by paulwade1984 (477 posts) -

oh yeah. kids tv is full of little nudges and winks for the parents to enjoy.

ever watched mr.tumble?

#12 Posted by iAmJohn (6109 posts) -

I forgot they made a Spy Kids 4.

#13 Posted by MaxxS (193 posts) -

@Baillie said:

@Petiew said:

RIP in peace

Still can't get over how fucking stupid that phrase is, it's like people forget what they're saying. Not directing this towards you, Petiew, it's just fucking horrible to read. Rip in piece makes ZERO sense even read aloud.

It's so obvious that people who say that aren't being serious that I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

#14 Posted by Stimpack (814 posts) -

@MaxxS: It's stupid. People are stupid.

#15 Posted by darkvare (759 posts) -

the whole movie is on youtube for some reason

#16 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4580 posts) -

@MaxxS said:

@Baillie said:

@Petiew said:

RIP in peace

Still can't get over how fucking stupid that phrase is, it's like people forget what they're saying. Not directing this towards you, Petiew, it's just fucking horrible to read. Rip in piece makes ZERO sense even read aloud.

It's so obvious that people who say that aren't being serious that I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

PIN number.

#17 Posted by Turtlebird95 (2312 posts) -

Wow. The first 3 were so cheesy and innocent.
 
And shitty.

#18 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2224 posts) -
@Baillie said:

@Petiew said:

RIP in peace

Still can't get over how fucking stupid that phrase is, it's like people forget what they're saying. Not directing this towards you, Petiew, it's just fucking horrible to read. Rip in piece makes ZERO sense even read aloud.

ATM machine
#19 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4330 posts) -

@pakalolobro420 said:

sounds good

#20 Edited by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

Spy Kids 1 was dark as shit too, it dealt with mutation/mutilation and lobotomy/mind control from what I remember. Also years later we get their cool uncle Machete's gory-as-hell R-rated origin story and you realize that he's gone though a lot of shit in his life that the Spy Kids couldn't even begin to imagine.

EDIT: Okay, reading the wikipedia entry they all work for the OSS which is a WWII era spy agency that was supposed to have been disbanded in 1945, so really every spy in the movie is a rogue fucking agent, children included. And I wasn't far off with the mutation, it was about a fucked up TV show cast entirely by captured spies that have been mutated by a crazy machine and forced into a kid's show. So man. Spy Kids, guys. Dark as hell.

#21 Posted by connerthekewlkid (1803 posts) -

@Petiew said:

@Baillie: Oh yeah, I know it's terrible and makes no sense. It's mostly just used when you're not being entirely serious, like lamenting the death of a fictional character. I asume that's how most others use it as well, the amount of people that say "Rest in peace in peace" seriously are few and far between.

RIP in Reeses Pieces

#22 Posted by Hunter5024 (5546 posts) -

That sounds fucking radical. Having read this, I don't really feel like I need to see this movie, and yet, now that I have read it, I wish I had seen it. Obviously the only solution to this problem is time travel.

#23 Posted by CornBREDX (4830 posts) -

I'm not sure what I just read but I wanted to say... doesn't Robert Rodriguez make those movies? Not surprised at all it's kinda dark.  
It's also really dumb. =P

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#24 Posted by big_jon (5709 posts) -

YEAH SPYKIDZ!

#25 Posted by audioBusting (1477 posts) -

@CornBREDX said:

I'm not sure what I just read but I wanted to say... doesn't Robert Rodriguez make those movies? Not surprised at all it's kinda dark. It's also really dumb. =P

Oh wow you're right. He produced Spy Kids 4 after Machete (according to Wikipedia).

#26 Posted by Inkerman (1449 posts) -

I dunno if you'd call it a kids movie, but in that batman movie with Poison Ivy, when she creates Bane (I think) she basically tortures a dude and it's super fucking graphic. Also the tunnel part in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (the original). That is the most terrifying scene in any movie ever.

#27 Posted by jkz (4003 posts) -

@SomeDeliCook said:

@Baillie said:

@Petiew said:

RIP in peace

Still can't get over how fucking stupid that phrase is, it's like people forget what they're saying. Not directing this towards you, Petiew, it's just fucking horrible to read. Rip in piece makes ZERO sense even read aloud.

ATM machine

ISBN Number...seriously fucking stop it you guys