They are now "aliens" according to Michael Bay who is producing the reboot. Fan reaction has been tense & Bay just responded in the Washington Post saying, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” fans need to chill." Even the voice actor of Michealango from the original 1990 film has condemned this tragedy. You are not supposed to take what is considered a 'cult' franchise now, & make it into Transformers. But you must admit, the 2007 CGI film sucked, so I guess one more can't hurt.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are no longer "mutants".
OMG! I can't believe this. Michael Bay really doesn't appreciate the fan base and the source material. What an asshole.
And yes, all his Transformers movies sucked real bad.
@crazyspace You beat me to this forum post!!
I saw the video of Michael Bay announcing it would be aliens and i wanted to instantly walk out to my car, drive to where ever the hell he was at, then beat him over the head with a lead pipe. ITS TMNT, not TANT. Jackass Bay. I will not "chill out" when you fuck with the core fundamental of something. Batman's parents are killed in front of him, Superman's parents launch him in a spaceship from their dying planet, Spiderman is bitten by a spider, and the fucking turtles were normal earth turtles that were mutated in the awesome 4 they became.
Honestly, I'm not so up in arms about that change. TMNT has played fast and loose with space before, it could be a lead in for Krang, and if you look at the state of the franchise, it's not like another movie is gonna hurt it any (let's face it, all but the first movie have been terrible).
Of course, since Bay is the director, this isn't likely to be any better, and I generally find changes like this to be unnecessary.
I'm not usually the type of person to get outraged by minor changes hollywood makes to comic book/cartoon stuff... for the most part it's fine (yeah, even the flames on Optimus), but this change is so fucking idiotic. I get that the turtles are pretty hard to sell to a new generation as TMNT (which was awesome) didn't really do for the franchise what I think they hoped it would. It amazes me that someone somewhere thinks this was the answer, edgy, hip, cool aliens because thats what they think the kids want. The part where they are NINJA ANIMALS should be enough. Bay telling the fans to chill is the fucking worst..
I don't get why. It's not like any of us need a plausible explanation. Here, I'll do it right now.
*movie opens with truck carrying toxic waste leaving a facility*
*cut to pet store delivery truck*
*toxic waste driver is dicking around on a cell phone, swerves, collides with pet store truck*
*crash, turtles fall in sewer, get oozed, throw a rat in there somewhere i guess*
That's literally all the explanation I need. Michael Bay is a bum jockey.
Doesn't bother me. Mutants and saying shit like "gnarly" and "radical" was cool back when TMNT first came out. Unless they were going to make it a retro comedy where these goofy sewer turtles didn't realize that it was 2012, not 1991, I don't see a big issue. This is actually a minor and pretty irrelevant change compared to what the movies and cartoon was vs. the comic. If anything, throwing the source material out the window is a hallmark of the franchise.
@PeasantAbuse said:
I didn't know people took Ninja Turtles seriously.
They take things they enjoy seriously because it's the entertainment they fall on when they aren't working or dealing with other issues, so when those basic memories of a good franchise are being pooped on, I can see why people have a problem with it. I am not even a TMNT fan, and I can see the hurt, man I never even liked transformers and was pissed off by the bay movies.
Well, to be fair; they would be middle-aged by now, they probably aren't real ninjas, and they're actually tortoises instead of turtles...
@BestUsernameEver said:
@PeasantAbuse said:
I didn't know people took Ninja Turtles seriously.
They take things they enjoy seriously because it's the entertainment they fall on when they aren't working or dealing with other issues, so when those basic memories of a good franchise are being pooped on, I can see why people have a problem with it. I am not even a TMNT fan, and I can see the hurt, man I never even liked transformers and was pissed off by the bay movies.
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.
It's like all the changes exist because he thinks they sound cool.
I just don't understand why. I mean, I'm no TMNT fan and have no vested interest in the series, but why? Changing their origin story so fundamentally just seems totally superfluous and uncaring and alienating and stupid. Whatever, it's a Michael Bay film, I'm sure it will be a classic anyways, amirite?
There's an entire generation out there that desperately needs to put aside childish things and grow up. Michael Bay is helping make that happen, and I support him.
Grow up? The original 1990 TMNT film was a very Adult-Themed movie. There was adult language, April wasn't wearing a bra, & the turtles actually used their weapons. Bay's film will be under "Nickolodean".
Middle-Aged Alien Fake Ninja Tortoises doesn't have a good ring to it... although there must be some MAAFNT fans around here.Well, to be fair; they would be middle-aged by now, they probably aren't real ninjas, and they're actually tortoises instead of turtles...
@crazyspace said:
Grow up? The original 1990 TMNT film was a very Adult-Themed movie. There was adult language, April wasn't wearing a bra, & the turtles actually used their weapons. Bay's film will be under "Nickolodean".
It's kind of adorable that you think there's that much of a difference. "The movie was aimed at thirteen-year-olds, this'll be more like for ten-year-olds!"
Look guys, I liked the Ninja Turtles when I was thirteen too. But I'm thirty-two now. I really don't understand why anyone would give a shit about something like this anymore. Either you're too young to have grown up with it, or you're too old to have any reason to care. I don't understand it at all.
When he says fans "need to chill." He means "when this is done, I'm going to make so much money I won't have to care about your opinions on your beloved franchises." His formula:
1) Find popular older franchise with huge potential fan base
2) Make more explosions and slo-mo more important than the actual plot
3) Laugh as sales spit in the faces of terrible reviews
4) Repeat
@Kevin_Cogneto said:
@crazyspace said:
Grow up? The original 1990 TMNT film was a very Adult-Themed movie. There was adult language, April wasn't wearing a bra, & the turtles actually used their weapons. Bay's film will be under "Nickolodean".It's kind of adorable that you think there's that much of a difference. "The movie was aimed at thirteen-year-olds, this'll be more like for ten-year-olds!"
Look guys, I liked the Ninja Turtles when I was thirteen too. But I'm thirty-two now. I really don't understand why anyone would give a shit about something like this anymore. Either you're too young to have grown up with it, or you're too old to have any reason to care. I don't understand it at all.
That reasoning doesn't make any sense. That's like saying, "They changed the recipe for the chocolate ice cream you liked as a kid so it tastes like pine needles! I don't see what the big deal is, you're either so young you don't remember when the ice cream was good or you're so old, you shouldn't care that the ice cream is bad because you have other things to do as an adult"
Even as an adult, things you like as a kid don't suddenly change. Most shows I watched when I was a kid are still pretty fun to watch today. I just finished rewatching Reboot again and that show, absurd as it is, is still totally entertaining. So yeah, while I'm not saying you should go out and petition against it, it's totally valid when someone tries to take a dump on something you remember fondly.
I grew up watching transformers. The most disappointing thing about Bayformers is that the first 20 minutes of Transformers 1 is perfectly fine. It's everything after that point, pissing robots, breakdancing robots, robots sneaking through gardens, repetitive minstrel comedy, catering to Chiwawahs because "AREN'TTHEYHILARIOUS?!?!?!?!?!" that's what makes it suck. It's not the premise or the action, those things are fine. It's the fucking idiotic slapstick meant for little kids that even little kids roll their eyes at. My 6 year old nephew Guffah'ed at how retarded Transformers 2 was.
Micheal Bay should be consulted for 1 thing and one thing only, action scenes. He cannot do anything else and when he tries, the results are disastrous.
But this movie will make more than all 3 transformers movies combined, because people will pay for anything these days.
How does it help? Can they not tell the story without making them aliens? Work with the franchise, not against it. Damn.
They take popular franchises from our childhoods, then turn em into movies, nostalgia and curiosity pull everyone to the theatres. People hear the movie is bad and then want to go see for themselves. In the end he makes like $500 million. Hollywood has done it for years and years.
Vote with your dollar, Bay doesn't give a fuck about anyone complaining on the internet.
Heroes in Venusian Chitin. Alien Power! *Sponsored by Alienware*Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles.
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