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#1 Posted by cannonballBAM (659 posts) -

I just picked up the blu-ray and noticed something peculiar.

I understand that parts of the production were filmed using an imax camera and exceed the normal letterbox aspect limits. As I never watched the film on imax, I am guessing some people might already be used to the transitions.

I was just wondering if it bothered anyone else who purchased the film?

#2 Edited by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

I thought it was stupid, it worked in the Dark Knight because only a few action scenes used it. In Dark Knight Rises, there are scenes when it keeps switching between aspect ratios way too fast and it pulls you out of the movie. Really made the Blu Ray unwatchable for me, wish their was a option to turn it off.

#3 Posted by Wallzii (213 posts) -

It is the same with the Dark Knight. Never bothered me with that film and it likely won't with this one.

#4 Edited by Pr1mus (4107 posts) -

What Bourbon_Warrior says. When used for long extended action shot it looks incredible but when it starts switching back and forth between the 2 different ratio in rapid succession it's terrible. I generally liked the IMAX shot in TDK better than in TDKR.

Also i don't get the use of IMAX for interior shots. It's at its best when used for wide camera angles in exterior shots.

#5 Posted by bennym6 (480 posts) -

I got it for DVD. #RetroSwag

#6 Posted by TheHBK (5664 posts) -

I liked it. Did notice it but I tend to notice this shit like you guys more than others so I doubt they were concerned about it. BUt the full screen parts looked gorgeous and wish the whole movie would have been like that.

#7 Posted by GeekDown (1173 posts) -

I heard about it just after watching it and I never noticed it.

#8 Edited by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

@TheHBK said:

I liked it. Did notice it but I tend to notice this shit like you guys more than others so I doubt they were concerned about it. BUt the full screen parts looked gorgeous and wish the whole movie would have been like that.

I would of much preferred this. I don't like letterbox on a 16:9 screen fill the whole thing up. One scene that really stood out was a certain scene with Batman and Catwoman were it kept switching between ratios for cuts that would last only a few seconds.

#9 Edited by MHumphreys89 (762 posts) -

The reason generally accepted for not filming the entire movie in faptastic IMAX is that it's too grainy to be used all the time; especially for the mellower 'talkie' scenes. I get used to it really quickly, so I can sacrifice ratio for a more beautiful looking movie. The only time it sticks out to me is the scene in which Batman/Catwoman arrive at Bane’s HQ in the sewers.

#10 Posted by cannonballBAM (659 posts) -

@Humphreys: @Bourbon_Warrior: It really started for me during the scene with Michael Caine talking to Bale in the Batcave.

His vacation scene and parts of the conversation were in imax resolution.

it just kept distracting me.

#11 Posted by probablytuna (4271 posts) -

I didn't really notice the switch until like the third viewing.

#12 Posted by Tylea002 (2382 posts) -

It happened constantly in the cinema where I saw it, and I thought it was pretty unacceptable. Stick to your chosen ratio, Nolan.

#13 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4713 posts) -

It was a little weird at times, yeah, but The Imax just looked so damned cool when he used it properly that it almost didn't matter. I could see it being a bigger problem on a smaller screen though.

#14 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1564 posts) -

70mm Imax film looks amazing, and color really shines on that particular film. It is also very costly to processes, and I also don't understand the decisions for certain scenes to use it, but overall it didn't bother me. One thing to keep in mind though: when 4k televisions come out, and this TDKR is re-release for that format, those scenes are going to look awesome.

#15 Posted by Veektarius (5462 posts) -

I didn't notice this in the theaters - also didn't watch it in imax, so I don't know if this matters. So there are scenes on the bluray where it switches from letterbox to fullscreen?

#16 Posted by firecracker22 (691 posts) -

It didn't bother me in TDK, and I was fine with it when I watched it in IMAX. I just got my copy in the mail today, though. So, tonight I'll find it if it will bother me.

Does anyone know if it's just the way Nolan wanted it, or is it some kind of technical hurdle they haven't figured out yet in transferring the film?

#17 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1564 posts) -

@firecracker22: It's intentional for the IMAX theater experience.

#18 Posted by mpgeist (658 posts) -

The story is that the cameras are super loud. So scenes with a lot if emotion Nolan likes to use the on set dialogue and stay away from ADR.

#19 Posted by Strife777 (1801 posts) -

There are some scenes where the switch is pretty noticeable, but for me it's nothing to complain about. The shots in IMAX are just gorgeous.

Nolan said he would've filmed the whole thing in IMAX, but the cameras are pretty loud, so the dialogue scenes would've been difficult to do without rerecording in post-production.

#20 Posted by Bane122 (914 posts) -

It stands out to me a bit more in this one than TDK due to more quick cuts but it doesn't really bother me.

#21 Posted by cannonballBAM (659 posts) -

I didn't finish watching it last night but I did today. I must admit, the scene where the gate slams on Bruce before he fights Bane is insane when you notice the film transitions from letter box to imax.

#22 Posted by Xeiphyer (5685 posts) -

My VHS version is fine.

#23 Posted by Andorski (5471 posts) -

I don't even notice it, which is a bit of a double-edge sword. I don't find the change in aspect ratio annoying, but I don't get the benefit of noticing the IMAX scenes.

#24 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4313 posts) -

I probably wont notice it.....  I didnt notice anything during the movie

#25 Posted by HistoryInRust (6671 posts) -

I keep getting this glitchy visual bug where Batman keeps bending in half about an hour of the way into the movie. Super weird.

#26 Posted by bobhusimem (1 posts) -

I HATE the changing aspect ratio... and yes- I know that "hate" is a strong word; but it is exactly the word that best describes how I feel about it...

that being said- from all the articles that I have found online, the majority of people do feel the same... a small percentage of folks do like it and a small percentage of folks are fine either way; but most of us have spent our hard-earned money expecting and wanting a blu-ray with a constant aspect ratio...

and it has taught me a lesson in waiting to check out online blu-ray reviews for the new video releases and reading the small fine print on the back bottom corner of the blu-ray package... and if it is not a "high priority" movie to add to my library- I will not buy it.....

#27 Posted by notnert427 (908 posts) -

I'll mention that a few of the scenes in The Dark Knight were fucking mind-blowing in IMAX. That shot of Batman atop the skyscraper was a "holy shit" moment. I saw The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX as well. At home, yeah, it doesn't really translate, but the IMAX scenes were pretty special in theaters.

#28 Edited by liquiddragon (561 posts) -

It is a bit weird and something you'll have to deal. TDK and Interstellar both had this "problem" as well. The funny thing is, because HDTV's are 16:9 and IMAX 70mm images are square-r 1.44:1, they are having to crop so what you're seeing isn't even what was originally shown in true IMAX theaters.

#29 Edited by Dixego (411 posts) -

I recently watched it on my laptop with the screen about 2 feet away from my eyes and it was absurdly distracting. Didn't notice it when I watched it in the theater though. I guess on bigger screens farther away from your face it shouldn't be a problem.

#30 Posted by SkullPanda1 (749 posts) -

I don't notice it unless I'm thinking about it ahead of time.

#31 Edited by Dragon_Puncher (187 posts) -

If you didn't like it in Dark Knight Rises, you'll die watching Interstellar, because holy shit it has a lot of aspect ratio transistions.

#32 Posted by Counterclockwork87 (939 posts) -

It's a little weird but to me the visual reward is worth it. It looks INCREDIBLE in theaters, and the 70mm scenes on Blu-ray look so much better than the standard 35mm. If you want to be blown away by a Blu-Ray check out the master...it was shot in 70mm (or was it 65? I forget, it wasn't IMAX though) and it just looks so much better than nearly every other movie.

#33 Posted by Gameraotaku (6 posts) -

I find the story that Nolan didn't want the sound of the IMAX cameras to drown out the dialogue to be hilarious. The common thread of the Nolan movie experience for me is bad sound mixing and dialogue being drowned out by the pounding score.

#34 Posted by liquiddragon (561 posts) -

@gameraotaku: I agree with you about issues with sound mixing in his movies but you literally can't shoot dialogue scenes with the IMAX camera cause it sounds like a jet when it's rolling.