The ''internet'' more ''liberal'' or ''south park republican'' ?

By the ''internet'' I mean young adults and teenagers pertaining to a video game/entertainment crowd who often discuss the subject at various internet forums such as GB and NeoGaf and other sites. If you had to collective the communities political leanings, do you think it would currently come closer to the ''liberal'' (american term) side or the ''south park republican or libertarian'' side ?

I mean I know it's full off individuals bursting with their individual opinions and all that stuff, but if you had to quantify it within those 2 spectrums.

Without question, yes.

How could you possibly have spent more than a week on the Internet without knowing the answer to this?

South Park as in the show?

Because South Park mocks liberals just as much as they mock republicans.

@Metzo_Paino said:

South Park as in the show?

Because South Park mock liberals just as much as they mock republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

new wave" or generation of young adults andteenagers who hold center-right political beliefs that are, in general, aligned with those portrayed in the popular American animated television program South Park

Hey now, stop trying to tear us apart... or i'll go 'the room' on you

the collective is definitely SP republican. It depends on the site of course (reddit is heavily conservative with an atheistic bent, SA is pretty liberal) but yeah I'd say there's more SP republicans than actual liberals.

also south park is garbage so there's that

@Animasta said:

reddit is heavily conservative

I think you have that wrong.

@Animasta said:

the collective is definitely SP republican. It depends on the site of course (reddit is heavily conservative with an atheistic bent, SA is pretty liberal) but yeah I'd say there's more SP republicans than actual liberals.

also south park is garbage so there's that

If this isn't a joke post then you're either completely clueless or completely irrational.

@EpicSteve said:

Without question, yes.

If you had any clue about what you were talking about you'd understand that the answer is, in fact, no. Clearly, you're just another fucking dirty lib or rethuglican!

This poll needs more socialism!

@BlackLagoon: I concur!

I have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

The amusing thing is is that the American 'left wing liberals' would be centrists in Canada and Europe. American conservatives would call Canadian conservatives a bunch of loony libs.

Maybe it's due to being the world's superpower but speaking as an outsider, the 'culture war' stuff is played up to mind-boggling degrees in America. I'm social left, economic right so maybe I'm a fringe case, but I don't shiver with rage because my guy lost in the election. Then again, you guys do have a ludicrously powerful executive branch, which has growing larger and larger going on 30 years now.

South Park Republican is actually kind of a dangerous thing, not due to ideology (which I almost agree with) but transmission. They boil relatively complicated situations down to nice, simple bottom lines and operate under an assumed moral right in almost every situation, and freely give a long list of people that should be hated. A friend of mine is almost religious with South Park and it's mostly made him think less of anyone who isn't him. You can either agree, or you can be wrong. That's really fucking creepy if you ask me. It's not a matter of the actual libertarian viewpoint, it's a matter of 'well they're obviously wrong because fuck them'.

Back to the topic, I would bet the internet is full of knee-jerk liberals more than South Park Republicans. I think most of all the internet is full of people who have just discovered having an opinion and are extremely excited at the opportunity to share it. Which is to say teenagers and young adults. That's why you get those threads of THE WORST EVER and AM I THE ONLY ONE.

South Park Republican is the stupidest name for a "political leaning".

@Subjugation said:

@Animasta said:

reddit is heavily conservative

I think you have that wrong.

nah. go to r/SRS sometime, it'll blow your mind. Conservatism isn't a hatred of science, it's not a love of god or whatever.

it's about a hatred of people unlike yourselves, whether they be black, religious, a woman... all great targets for redditors.

edit; well hatred is a little strong, but they certainly have some very terrible opinions on people that aren't straight white men

@Brodehouse said:

The amusing thing is is that the American 'left wing liberals' would be centrists in Canada and Europe. American conservatives would call Canadian conservatives a bunch of loony libs.

Maybe it's due to being the world's superpower but speaking as an outsider, the 'culture war' stuff is played up to mind-boggling degrees in America. I'm social left, economic right so maybe I'm a fringe case, but I don't shiver with rage because my guy lost in the election. Then again, you guys do have a ludicrously powerful executive branch, which has growing larger and larger going on 30 years now.

South Park Republican is actually kind of a dangerous thing, not due to ideology (which I almost agree with) but transmission. They boil relatively complicated situations down to nice, simple bottom lines and operate under an assumed moral right in almost every situation, and freely give a long list of people that should be hated. A friend of mine is almost religious with South Park and it's mostly made him think less of anyone who isn't him. You can either agree, or you can be wrong. That's really fucking creepy if you ask me. It's not a matter of the actual libertarian viewpoint, it's a matter of 'well they're obviously wrong because fuck them'.

Back to the topic, I would bet the internet is full of knee-jerk liberals more than South Park Republicans. I think most of all the internet is full of people who have just discovered having an opinion and are extremely excited at the opportunity to share it. Which is to say teenagers and young adults. That's why you get those threads of THE WORST EVER and AM I THE ONLY ONE.

Once again, Brodehouse nails it.

EDIT: Also, fuck you brodehouse, because it's not proper to unabashedly compliment people on their posts.

What???'

Liberals on gawker make me wish my brain would melt.

The internet is more liberal, yeah. Try making a thread exclaiming a position against gay rights on any given forum that isn't Christian fundamentalist and see where that gets you.

Personally, my opinion on politics is summed up here:

and, for good measure:

I don't think most young people pay attention to politics on or offline.

@believer258: Gay rights can just as easily be libertarian.

@Brodehouse said:

The amusing thing is is that the American 'left wing liberals' would be centrists in Canada and Europe. American conservatives would call Canadian conservatives a bunch of loony libs.

Maybe it's due to being the world's superpower but speaking as an outsider, the 'culture war' stuff is played up to mind-boggling degrees in America. I'm social left, economic right so maybe I'm a fringe case, but I don't shiver with rage because my guy lost in the election. Then again, you guys do have a ludicrously powerful executive branch, which has growing larger and larger going on 30 years now.

South Park Republican is actually kind of a dangerous thing, not due to ideology (which I almost agree with) but transmission. They boil relatively complicated situations down to nice, simple bottom lines and operate under an assumed moral right in almost every situation, and freely give a long list of people that should be hated. A friend of mine is almost religious with South Park and it's mostly made him think less of anyone who isn't him. You can either agree, or you can be wrong. That's really fucking creepy if you ask me. It's not a matter of the actual libertarian viewpoint, it's a matter of 'well they're obviously wrong because fuck them'.

Back to the topic, I would bet the internet is full of knee-jerk liberals more than South Park Republicans. I think most of all the internet is full of people who have just discovered having an opinion and are extremely excited at the opportunity to share it. Which is to say teenagers and young adults. That's why you get those threads of THE WORST EVER and AM I THE ONLY ONE.

Well Obama would be definitely considered some kind of autocraticish neoliberal (ordoliberal) here, pegging him to the right of the centre. This is just a quick observation though.

I do like some views presented in South Park, a lot of them ride on pure ''common sense'' and don't dwell deep into the issue and trying to understand the opposition to it. I think form my opinion POV that the ''internet'' was more SP republican some time ago, a lot of ''internet'' people also liked McCain in the beginning but GB and other sites do seem a bit more ''liberal''.

@oraknabo said:

@believer258: Gay rights can just as easily be libertarian.

I think that the main difference between the leftos and the ''sane conservatives'' is that ones don't see an issue in different groups of people getting different rights, such as gay rights, minority rights etc while the other wants an equal playing field without such divisions occurring in the first place which is kinda harder to implement and would take a bit longer to do so.

The amusing thing is is that the American 'left wing liberals' would be centrists in Canada and Europe. American conservatives would call Canadian conservatives a bunch of loony libs.

Maybe it's due to being the world's superpower but speaking as an outsider, the 'culture war' stuff is played up to mind-boggling degrees in America. I'm social left, economic right so maybe I'm a fringe case, but I don't shiver with rage because my guy lost in the election. Then again, you guys do have a ludicrously powerful executive branch, which has growing larger and larger going on 30 years now.

South Park Republican is actually kind of a dangerous thing, not due to ideology (which I almost agree with) but transmission. They boil relatively complicated situations down to nice, simple bottom lines and operate under an assumed moral right in almost every situation, and freely give a long list of people that should be hated. A friend of mine is almost religious with South Park and it's mostly made him think less of anyone who isn't him. You can either agree, or you can be wrong. That's really fucking creepy if you ask me. It's not a matter of the actual libertarian viewpoint, it's a matter of 'well they're obviously wrong because fuck them'.

Back to the topic, I would bet the internet is full of knee-jerk liberals more than South Park Republicans. I think most of all the internet is full of people who have just discovered having an opinion and are extremely excited at the opportunity to share it. Which is to say teenagers and young adults. That's why you get those threads of THE WORST EVER and AM I THE ONLY ONE.

@Animasta said:

@Subjugation said:

@Animasta said:

reddit is heavily conservative

I think you have that wrong.

nah. go to r/SRS sometime, it'll blow your mind. Conservatism isn't a hatred of science, it's not a love of god or whatever.

it's about a hatred of people unlike yourselves, whether they be black, religious, a woman... all great targets for redditors.

edit; well hatred is a little strong, but they certainly have some very terrible opinions on people that aren't straight white men

Looks like I was right on both counts; you're both clueless and irrational.

@Brodehouse: "I'm social left, economic right"

That's kind of a libertarian, isn't it? I think the term "South Park Republican" really just describes a libertarian perspective.

As for the internet, this is a subjective call based on my personal experience, but I see very little conservatism outside of the conspiracy crowd. From liberal to socialist, and libertarian to anarchist, but very few populists or conservatives. My political terms are consistent with those used in political compasses like the Nolan Chart, just for clear definition of what I am mean by "populist" and so forth.

The internet is so obviously anarcho capitalist.

@saroorhai:There are things about libertarian I can get behind, but others that makes them not the right fit. Maybe they're the closest fit, but too many are too crazy. I'd rather say what I am specifically rather than what group I closest agree with.

@Brodehouse said:

The amusing thing is is that the American 'left wing liberals' would be centrists in Canada and Europe. American conservatives would call Canadian conservatives a bunch of loony libs.

This is definitely my experience from having lived across the world. In the U.S., I'm a dyed in the wool liberal. In Germany or Switzerland, I'm a centrist.

The internet is a hugely diverse entity. It is not just teenagers and 20 somethings posting in entertainment forums. There are communities that cater to every political sensibility and area of interest that it would be quite impossible to pigeonhole the political stance of the "internet" as you put it. One problem with the "internet" is that so many of us lack perspective and are really only aware of what's going on immediately around us. We get the feeling that we're the center of the universe so to speak and that is far from true.

Even pertaining to entertainment communities a shared love of something does not mean that our political views will be similar. Politics are not even regularly talked about nor encouraged in these communities as they have absolutely nothing to do with the general focus of the given site and regularly breed contention and exclusion.

I don't think I can take anyone who claims him/herself as a "South Park Republican" seriously.

I rather think the majority is "I don't give a fuck"

@scalpel said:

How could you possibly have spent more than a week on the Internet without knowing the answer to this?

This. The internet is practically the equivalent of Berkeley as far as politics. That is, since the OP seems unaware of the fact, overwhelmingly liberal and generally atheistic. Of course, as an agnostic socialist, I fall into that category too hahaha

It's disgustingly liberal. I hope they prevent liberals from accessing, or at the very least posting, on the internet in the near future.

Video game forums always get real funny when people start talking politics.

This isn't edgy enough. Where's @Contrarian?

Liberal, I would think. Granted, I'm not entirely aware of what that means. American liberalism still seems a bit too right wing to me.

@LooseChange said:

Liberals on gawker make me wish my brain would melt.

Seconded...And I'm very far from conservative.

you know, as a European I thought Ron Paul was going to win American elections judging solely by those Ron Paul 2012 comments, then I looked it up and saw he barely had 10 percent.

@Onno10 said:

you know, as a European I though Ron Paul was going to win American elections judging solely by those Ron Paul 2012 comments, then I looked it up and saw he barely had 10 percent.

Haha, same. The owner of the site I write for is a massive backer of Ron Paul and would post 20 tweets a day about it, not to mention Ron Paul's videos on youtube getting shit-tons of views and almost unanimously positive feedback. It's funny when you get reminded that there's still a large world out there completely separate to the internet, where TV has much more sway.

@Brodehouse: Yeah, the American left does not exist. I remember getting so much shit last time I was home (in Texas) and was reading Capital.

@Animasta said:

@Subjugation said:

@Animasta said:

reddit is heavily conservative

I think you have that wrong.

nah. go to r/SRS sometime, it'll blow your mind. Conservatism isn't a hatred of science, it's not a love of god or whatever.

it's about a hatred of people unlike yourselves, whether they be black, religious, a woman... all great targets for redditors.

edit; well hatred is a little strong, but they certainly have some very terrible opinions on people that aren't straight white men

Oh so you're one of those people who doesn't actually know what SRS is. Cool.

As someone whos supposed to be part of the groups Reddit hates, I have literally only seen one comment I was genuinely insulted by and that was downvoted to oblivion. In fact a post a week or two ago straight up asked women, LGBT, and anyone else who wasn't white if they felt SRS did any good. Surprise the response from all the supposed victims, was a resounding "no."

SRS is made up of two types of people:

1. Egomaniacs who feel its their duty to get offended by everything

2. People who are just trolling the previous group

P.S. they also pushed someone to suicide.

Consider the age bracket of most forums...

....I've never heard of this before.