The new Alice In Wonderland is dead to me now.
Tim Burton is officialy making movies exclusivly for the Hot Topic demographic. I see people at my school with Nightmare Before Christmas and Corpse Bride merchandise only becouse its black and "edgy" and dont know that its movie merchandise. I enjoyed the shit out of Batman and Big Fish. And thought this remake could be cleverly done. But now i realise this is just a response for the demand of more semi-gothic or semi-edgy movie.
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/2010/01/25/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-soundtrack-revealed/
I was down on this movie before I found out its actually based on Alice Beyond the Lookingglass, the sequel to the first book. Which hasn't been adapted well yet. Would I prefer a Disney animation, or something with, idunno, Terry Gilliam directing? Sure. But its a harmless movie adaptation, unlike Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Planet of the Apes. Man Burton sucks sometimes.
" I was down on this movie before I found out its actually based on Alive Beyond the Lookingglass, the sequel to the first book. Which hasn't been adapted well yet. Would I prefer a Disney animation, or something with, idunno, Terry Gilliam directing? Sure. But its a harmless movie adaptation, unlike Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Planet of the Apes. Man Burton sucks sometimes. "Did you watch that SyFy 2 part Alice remake? It looked pretty cool but becouse im not in the USA and too lazy to make proxy server and get it off Hulu i didnt watch it.
" Its dead to me. There is Avril Lavigne, Fallout Boy, Blink 182, 3OH!3 and Owl City in the soundtrack. Tim Burton is officialy making movies exclusivly for the Hot Topic demographic. "This made me laugh. Cuz its true. I feel sorry for ya duder, it's hard to see something you love get crushed grounded up for all the unwashed masses.
" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I watched a lot of Comic Con coverage and it got me hyped. I liked Big Fish and thought Nightmare Before Christmas was cleverly made. And i forgot that he made Sweeney Todd and even if i did i could forgive him...
@HandsomeDead said:
" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "Doesn't the inclusion of Fallout Boy make it automatically good for you, HD?
Ah, I miss when there used to be more active Rock Band forums here.
" @HandsomeDead said:It was Henry Selick who made Nightmare Before Christmas, Burton's name is on it because he came up with the characters. And are you forgetting he made Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Edward Scissorhands?" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I watched a lot of Comic Con coverage and it got me hyped. I liked Big Fish and thought Nightmare Before Christmas was cleverly made. And i forgot that he made Sweeney Todd and even if i did i could forgive him... "
@HandsomeDead said:
" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I can name a few Tim Burton movies that aren't great, but most of them are awesome from my own perspective. Stop implying your opinion as fact.
I'm still going to end up seeing it eventually but...I kind of like the Disney version songs ya know? Is that weird? Same goes for the Willy Wonka remake actually. Why change the Oompa Loompa songs, arguably the most memorable parts of the film? Even if the new versions are better (which is a fairly laughable prospect, but just for sake of argument) I would still rather have that tiny link to the originals.
The artists themselves aren't really the worst crime here if they would just stick to the original tempo and lyrics. Sadly each song will inevitably be some sped up garbage cover.
" @NukeGoBoom said:I know this is a common mistake but in defense of people who make it, Burton was the creative director in Nightmare and the "fashion" of the film, that look he uses in like everything now, is the main thing a lot of people liked." @HandsomeDead said:It was Henry Selick who made Nightmare Before Christmas, Burton's name is on it because he came up with the characters. And are you forgetting he made Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Edward Scissorhands? "" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I watched a lot of Comic Con coverage and it got me hyped. I liked Big Fish and thought Nightmare Before Christmas was cleverly made. And i forgot that he made Sweeney Todd and even if i did i could forgive him... "
" Judging a movie based on its soundtrack...Jesus Christ, what's the world coming to. How often is the soundtrack ever actually relevant to the movie.Its not liking a soundtrack is a important part of flimaking and is a great tool to portray the mood of the movie through an extra medium...
@HandsomeDead said:" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I can name a few Tim Burton movies that aren't great, but most of them are awesome from my own perspective. Stop implying your opinion as fact. "
I got upset at this movie after I saw the trailer, because it isn't Alice in Wonderland. It's a sequel to the original story. But considering there was already a sequel called "The Looking Glass." Imagine all the kids who, after reading the book, go see the movie, only to find that it's not the original story. Basically, what I'm saying is this movie should have be called "Alice Returns to Wonderland."
" Judging a movie based on its soundtrack...Jesus Christ, what's the world coming to. How often is the soundtrack ever actually relevant to the movie.Maybe it isn't a musical, but Disney films traditionally place a large emphasis on the music. It's a valid topic.
@HandsomeDead said:" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I can name a few Tim Burton movies that aren't great, but most of them are awesome from my own perspective. Stop implying your opinion as fact. "
" I got upset at this movie after I saw the trailer, because it isn't Alice in Wonderland. It's a sequel to the original story. But considering there was already a sequel called "The Looking Glass." Imagine all the kids who, after reading the book, go see the movie, only to find that it's not the original story. Basically, what I'm saying is this movie should have be called "Alice Returns to Wonderland." "Or Beyond the Lookingglass. Which is a fine film name.
" Its dead to me. There is Avril Lavigne, Fallout Boy, Blink 182, 3OH!3 and Owl City in the soundtrack. Tim Burton is officialy making movies exclusivly for the Hot Topic demographic. I see people at my school with Nightmare Before Christmas and Corpse Bride merchandise only becouse its black and "edgy" and dont know that its movie merchandise. I enjoyed the shit out of Batman and Big Fish. And thought this remake could be cleverly done. But now i realise this is just a response for the demand of more semi-gothic or semi-edgy movie.http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/2010/01/25/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-soundtrack-revealed/ "Don't judge a book by it's cover. "This movie was directed by *********, therefor it has to suck."
" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "dude made the first two batman movies. They are fucking good
How does any music by any of them have to do with Alice in Wonderland? I mean, you couldn't even lie about a soundtrack like that!
" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "Tim Burton was amazing all of his works i loved it, but the modern Tim Burton (post 2007) it may be being brain controlled by the same fool that's brain controlling Miyamoto and making them do such FAILure things
Well, isn't that the target audience anyway? Still, that disappoints me as well, but I wasn't really planning to see it anyway.
@HandsomeDead said:So you'd think, but my hatred for anything and everything Tim Burton actually makes it a bad thing because now, whenever I hear whatever song is on that soundtrack, I'll link it with him." You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "Doesn't the inclusion of Fallout Boy make it automatically good for you, HD? "
Why does the soundtrack even matter? You're the perfect example of a person who hates something because of its following, or because of popularity. Hot Topic hops on everything in pop-culture that's popular. They have TONS of Mario shirts, does that mean you'll hate on Mario Galaxy 2 later this year? I understand the stigma of "the hottopic crowd", but you're overreacting.
Come up with legitimate reasons for hate before making yourself look silly to the GB community and further embarrassing the common forum user because irrational people like you pollute them. How about see the movie then comment on the plot and acting?
P.S.
Most soundtracks for movies are lame.
I heard people talking on the radio how excited they were for this soundtrack, to me its just a collection of the shittiest bands with barely any musical talent.
Music in cinema is used as a thematic device to accentuate plot points, characters and mood. If the new Alice in Wonderland uses Avril Latrine, Falldown Boygirl and whatever other fHot Topic demographic bands are trendy then I can only assume Burton is trying to elucidate his own sense of crtical suicide since he utterly buttfucked Willy Wonka and those damn dirty apes in rapid succession. This movie will tank and Burton knows it." I'm sorry, you can watch Soundtracks now? "
The way the Mad Hatter looks pisses me off, and looks like something you'd see a douchy smart ass guy use for his avatar. Yes I'm judging the quality of a film soley by the way one of the characters looks.
" Judging a movie based on its soundtrack...Jesus Christ, what's the world coming to. How often is the soundtrack ever actually relevant to the movie.The soundtrack actually has a lot to do with a movie.
@HandsomeDead said:" You thought a Tim Burton movie was going to be good? "I can name a few Tim Burton movies that aren't great, but most of them are awesome from my own perspective. Stop implying your opinion as fact. "
Is this stuff that plays during the movie or the credits? Because I've seen plenty of good movies with great soundtracks that turn around and slap a bunch of seemingly random songs into their end credits. In that case, it wouldn't really matter. I don't think anyone sticks around for the credits anymore.
" Judging a movie based on its soundtrack...Jesus Christ, what's the world coming to. How often is the soundtrack ever actually relevant to the movie."What's wrong with that. It gives you an idea of who the target audience is, so you can avoid wasting your money going to a movie that was made for someone else.
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