I suppose I am one of the lucky few who has a girlfriend who is not complicated to understand. Who I feel is just as rational as men are. I mean she does think differently at times, that is to say, not rationally, but that's true for anyone basically.
I read a journal on endocrinology and behavior that made the argument woman are pursuing good genes and good resources, not necessarily to the same degree and not necessary in some static pattern. This preferences are ultimately governed by hormone fluctuations which result in the requisite preference shift between resources or genes. Note this doesn't accommodate any sociological explanation for behavior, it's only a natural explanation.
THE QUESTION: How do boys think? They generalize the shit out of women.
How is this raising the communities intelligence in the least? All this is doing is stereotyping and making a lot of people here look sexist. "Ooooh, girls are mysterious!" "They're irrational." And the worst of all: "...95% of them automatically put you in the friend zone..."
" Hmmm...I already tried doing that, but the OT board still shows up on the front page:( "
It's probably part of one of the forums in your "Favorites" tab if it appears on the front page of the site. Remove it from there. [EDIT] Except, I'm not even sure of how to remove a "Favorite" forum. "
I'll figure it out, thanks!
@General_D23 said:
" @FluxWaveZ:@mutha3: You want to go to the top of the Off-Topic forum and click "Remove from Favs". "
" From my experience, 95% of them automatically put you in the friend zone if they dont find you attractive. The other 4.9% are sluts that will sleep with anything that has a dick and a pulse and the last .1% are actually rational human beings. "
A species doesn't evolve if all it does is sit around holding hands and watching sex and the city reruns. Women have pretty solid reasons to desire the 'friendship' of males; the suggestion of sex can still result in favors such as protection or food. Hell, you might be able to trick Mr. Caveman #1 into taking care of the kid Mr. Caveman #2 gave you. Men, however, have zero evolutionary reason to desire the friendship of females. Having a female around who will not carry your child simply offers us no benefits. The irony of the situation is that females are originally only interested in friendship with men because men do not want a mere friendship. It is the suggestion of sex that keeps the whole machine going, whether you consciously accept that or not.
" From my experience, 95% of them automatically put you in the friend zone if they dont find you attractive. The other 4.9% are sluts that will sleep with anything that has a dick and a pulse and the last .1% are actually rational human beings. "
Okay, few things. What's wrong with the first point? Should they not put any male they meet into the 'friend zone'? Should they sleep with them all? Then you'd call them a slut? What's wrong with them wanting male friends? It's only the guys who agree to this 'friendship' that actually want to sleep to them. Why don't they straight out say at the start or why even bother. It's sneaky and wrong and you'll (the male) will generally end up being hurt when she discovers that you'd want more from her then just 'friendship'. So what? Is she in the wrong just because you think her personal space means jack shit and that she deserves to give up her own body to sleep with you just because you helped her 'through all those hard times'?
You know what I find then, time after time, the guy goes onto hating all girls. Declaring that all girls are sluts, bitches, mysterious, complected, etc, etc, and never realize that they were being as creey as all hell and never once realize that they are a person will feelings and their own desires and needs and personal spaces.
Number two: I know WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more guys than girls who'll sleep with anything that has a vagina and a pulse. That point is so hypocritical. Why are women pinned as being sluts while men can get away with being studs?! Secondly, you make all this out to be a bad thing, which will lead me to my last point:
.1% rational human beings? What the fuck does that even mean? Why aren't the 'friend zone' and the 'sluts' rational? Why are they irrational? Sex is such a small part of of somebodies life yet you objectify them as being sexual beings and nothing more. Can't any of these girls have a personality or a life outside of this sex world you've made up about them? And if so, will they all be absolutely irrational because of what you deem to be irrational behaviors in their sex lives? None of what you said has made any sense. Any sense at all! The worst thing is, so many people would agree with you and your points.
So, basically, .1% of all women have a brain while the rest run on strange sexual behaviors, which consist of having sex with noone or having sex with everyone, and NOTHING MORE.
" @ISuperGamerI: I'd just like to put in my 2 cents, or whatever your currency may be, and say that us girls are very emotional. Sure it's depicted a million different ways on TVs and Movies and those are exaggerations of course. Specially while we're teens we have No idea what we want and we're not in it for the sex, well some are but they're not worth your time. I say, if you want a girl find one who's stable, you can tell if she is because while you're "friends" she won't call you a million times, she doesnt have too much drama in her life to tell you about, and she can put together a clear sentence. Make sure you have things in common and hey, if she wants, she'll Let you know that she likes you. One major point about girls though, is we don't like Really clingy guys, no matter how desperate you are. DONT LET HER KNOW IT. That is all. i actually deleted it because i thought it was too wordy, but seeing as you agree.. i shall re-post it haha "
Everything in the above statement is 100% true. Especially the whole clingy guy thing. Ahhh attack of the Cling-On's!!!!
" Hey guys. I decided to make a topic with an interesting topic every week, where the Giant Bomb community can discuss interesting things. I've been reading how the maturity of the community has gone down, so what better way to increase it by having intelligent conversations? "
" @ISuperGamerI: I'd just like to put in my 2 cents, or whatever your currency may be, and say that us girls are very emotional. Sure it's depicted a million different ways on TVs and Movies and those are exaggerations of course. Specially while we're teens we have No idea what we want and we're not in it for the sex, well some are but they're not worth your time. I say, if you want a girl find one who's stable, you can tell if she is because while you're "friends" she won't call you a million times, she doesnt have too much drama in her life to tell you about, and she can put together a clear sentence. Make sure you have things in common and hey, if she wants, she'll Let you know that she likes you. One major point about girls though, is we don't like Really clingy guys, no matter how desperate you are. DONT LET HER KNOW IT. That is all. i actually deleted it because i thought it was too wordy, but seeing as you agree.. i shall re-post it haha "
Everything in the above statement is 100% true. Especially the whole clingy guy thing. Ahhh attack of the Cling-On's!!!! "
Well, what if she wants a 'friend' to just be a friend? You're thinking there's this white light at the end of it all, and all she wants is a friend. Can you see the confusion arising?
@Frohman: Sorry I don't quite understand. There's nothing wrong with a guy just trying to be a girl's friend, there's just a fine line between thoughtful and fucking annoying/weird.
" @Frohman: Sorry I don't quite understand. There's nothing wrong with a guy just trying to be a girl's friend, there's just a fine line between thoughtful and fucking annoying/weird. "
I understand. But a lot of girl's 'friends' don't really have just friendship in mind. I could demonstrate this point quite a few times by previous posts from other uses in this thread.
@Frohman: If a guy doesn't want to be just friends with a girl, it's his responsibility to make his intentions known. The guys that act like friends when they want something more is the problem.
Also, this thread is the stereotype that keeps women from associating with male gamers.
" A species doesn't evolve if all it does is sit around holding hands and watching sex and the city reruns. Women have pretty solid reasons to desire the 'friendship' of males; the suggestion of sex can still result in favors such as protection or food. Hell, you might be able to trick Mr. Caveman #1 into taking care of the kid Mr. Caveman #2 gave you. Men, however, have zero evolutionary reason to desire the friendship of females. Having a female around who will not carry your child simply offers us no benefits. The irony of the situation is that females are originally only interested in friendship with men because men do not want a mere friendship. It is the suggestion of sex that keeps the whole machine going, whether you consciously accept that or not. "
good point, how would you feel if you replaced sex with "reproduction"?
" A species doesn't evolve if all it does is sit around holding hands and watching sex and the city reruns. Women have pretty solid reasons to desire the 'friendship' of males; the suggestion of sex can still result in favors such as protection or food. Hell, you might be able to trick Mr. Caveman #1 into taking care of the kid Mr. Caveman #2 gave you. Men, however, have zero evolutionary reason to desire the friendship of females. Having a female around who will not carry your child simply offers us no benefits. The irony of the situation is that females are originally only interested in friendship with men because men do not want a mere friendship. It is the suggestion of sex that keeps the whole machine going, whether you consciously accept that or not. "
No, not really.
If cavemen 1# wasn't a creepy loser and made his intentions clear, he'd be getting a piece of ass too.
But no, you're right:
Its the woman that HAS to be tricking caveman 1#. it can't just be a simple case of ''Caveman1# is a creep''.....no, no, no no. Woman are evolutionarily engineerd to friend-zone you! ITS EVOLUTION
" From my experience, 95% of them automatically put you in the friend zone if they dont find you attractive. The other 4.9% are sluts that will sleep with anything that has a dick and a pulse and the last .1% are actually rational human beings. "
Okay, few things. What's wrong with the first point? Should they not put any male they meet into the 'friend zone'? Should they sleep with them all? Then you'd call them a slut? What's wrong with them wanting male friends? It's only the guys who agree to this 'friendship' that actually want to sleep to them. Why don't they straight out say at the start or why even bother. It's sneaky and wrong and you'll (the male) will generally end up being hurt when she discovers that you'd want more from her then just 'friendship'. So what? Is she in the wrong just because you think her personal space means jack shit and that she deserves to give up her own body to sleep with you just because you helped her 'through all those hard times'? You know what I find then, time after time, the guy goes onto hating all girls. Declaring that all girls are sluts, bitches, mysterious, complected, etc, etc, and never realize that they were being as creey as all hell and never once realize that they are a person will feelings and their own desires and needs and personal spaces. Number two: I know WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more guys than girls who'll sleep with anything that has a vagina and a pulse. That point is so hypocritical. Why are women pinned as being sluts while men can get away with being studs?! Secondly, you make all this out to be a bad thing, which will lead me to my last point: .1% rational human beings? What the fuck does that even mean? Why aren't the 'friend zone' and the 'sluts' rational? Why are they irrational? Sex is such a small part of of somebodies life yet you objectify them as being sexual beings and nothing more. Can't any of these girls have a personality or a life outside of this sex world you've made up about them? And if so, will they all be absolutely irrational because of what you deem to be irrational behaviors in their sex lives? None of what you said has made any sense. Any sense at all! The worst thing is, so many people would agree with you and your points. So, basically, .1% of all women have a brain while the rest run on strange sexual behaviors, which consist of having sex with noone or having sex with everyone, and NOTHING MORE. "
The girls that put people in the friend zone tend to never even consider becoming more than friends for no real reason other than "i just dont see you being more than a friend to me". thats the reason i call it "friend zone", its seemingly impossible to get out of no matter how much you care for or love that person. Dont get me wrong, i like having girls as friends, but to think that your going to be "just friends" with a person of the opposite sex for life is just silly. Thats what makes them irrational.
Most sluts, again from my experience, dont have sex for pleasure, they have sex for power and attention. They seem to never become too attached to one guy and the moment things might get serious they break it off (no pun intended). This makes them irrational.
Then the .1%, the ones who keep their options open, not having sex for any other reason than it being a pleasurable experience with someone your attracted to while ensuring that if the man they are with truely loves them, to not break their heart by just sleeping with other guys on the side. I have personally only had one girlfriend out of the dozens that was like that, maybe ive just had a generally bad experience with woman but thats the reason i put "from my experience" in front of all the statements ive made.
" The girls that put people in the friend zone tend to never even consider becoming more than friends for no real reason other than "i just dont see you being more than a friend to me". thats the reason i call it "friend zone", its seemingly impossible to get out of no matter how much you care for or love that person.
What a load of bunk.
Girls don't ''put you in the friend zone'' you land there entirely by your own discretion.
but to think that your going to be "just friends" with a person of the opposite sex for life is just silly. Thats what makes them irrational.
No its not. Normal people make their intentions clear from the start.
If a normal person wants to date a girl:''Hey, you want to go out with me sometime?''
When some of the weirdos that post here want to date a girl:''Please let me creepily ask you about personal details so that I can manipulatively guilt you into becoming my lover. WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ME?!?!?WHY DO NICE GUYS ALWAYS GET HURTBAWWWW!''
" From my experience, 95% of them automatically put you in the friend zone if they dont find you attractive. The other 4.9% are sluts that will sleep with anything that has a dick and a pulse and the last .1% are actually rational human beings. "
Okay, few things. What's wrong with the first point? Should they not put any male they meet into the 'friend zone'? Should they sleep with them all? Then you'd call them a slut? What's wrong with them wanting male friends? It's only the guys who agree to this 'friendship' that actually want to sleep to them. Why don't they straight out say at the start or why even bother. It's sneaky and wrong and you'll (the male) will generally end up being hurt when she discovers that you'd want more from her then just 'friendship'. So what? Is she in the wrong just because you think her personal space means jack shit and that she deserves to give up her own body to sleep with you just because you helped her 'through all those hard times'? You know what I find then, time after time, the guy goes onto hating all girls. Declaring that all girls are sluts, bitches, mysterious, complected, etc, etc, and never realize that they were being as creey as all hell and never once realize that they are a person will feelings and their own desires and needs and personal spaces. Number two: I know WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more guys than girls who'll sleep with anything that has a vagina and a pulse. That point is so hypocritical. Why are women pinned as being sluts while men can get away with being studs?! Secondly, you make all this out to be a bad thing, which will lead me to my last point: .1% rational human beings? What the fuck does that even mean? Why aren't the 'friend zone' and the 'sluts' rational? Why are they irrational? Sex is such a small part of of somebodies life yet you objectify them as being sexual beings and nothing more. Can't any of these girls have a personality or a life outside of this sex world you've made up about them? And if so, will they all be absolutely irrational because of what you deem to be irrational behaviors in their sex lives? None of what you said has made any sense. Any sense at all! The worst thing is, so many people would agree with you and your points. So, basically, .1% of all women have a brain while the rest run on strange sexual behaviors, which consist of having sex with noone or having sex with everyone, and NOTHING MORE. "
The girls that put people in the friend zone tend to never even consider becoming more than friends for no real reason other than "i just dont see you being more than a friend to me". thats the reason i call it "friend zone", its seemingly impossible to get out of no matter how much you care for or love that person. Dont get me wrong, i like having girls as friends, but to think that your going to be "just friends" with a person of the opposite sex for life is just silly. Thats what makes them irrational. Most sluts, again from my experience, dont have sex for pleasure, they have sex for power and attention. They seem to never become too attached to one guy and the moment things might get serious they break it off (no pun intended). This makes them irrational. Then the .1%, the ones who keep their options open, not having sex for any other reason than it being a pleasurable experience with someone your attracted to while ensuring that if the man they are with truely loves them, to not break their heart by just sleeping with other guys on the side. I have personally only had one girlfriend out of the dozens that was like that, maybe ive just had a generally bad experience with woman but thats the reason i put "from my experience" in front of all the statements ive made. "
What? Having someone as a friend is irrational if they're a different sex to you? Tell me you don't honestly believe this? I have female friends I would never consider going out with. Why is it now impossible to be friends with opposite genders without sex involved?! I would imagine this to be either creepy or sick, but I assume you're a teen and has a lot of sex on your mind. When you grow up, please stop gendifying women.
Also, on your second point. Yes, there are some women out there that do this. There are also some men out there that do this too. Is it irrational? No. If you explain how it is, go ahead. It seems pretty rational behaviour to me as it's probably a formation of their past and environment shaping their views on the world. As a defense system, it must work for them. I don't see how this is irrational at all, yet you use this word as a negative term. You also call them sluts which is nothing less than a crude insult. You attack someone because you don't know them or what you're dealing with. I guess this is how you find it easier to cope with their behaviour. I find it odd though.
Lastly, you point out how your beliefs are wrong "maybe ive just had a generally bad experience with woman" but then continue to believe what you type. Like I said before, I find all this very odd. Do you know how sexist you seem to be?
@mutha3: uh, perhaps you should check out this thing called the ladder theory. It really opened by eyes with regards to the way men and women interact. For instance, check out this scientifically sound graph:
Frankly, denying this simple truth at this point is like being a flat-earther or a creationist.
" @mutha3: uh, perhaps you should check out this thing called the ladder theory. It really opened by eyes with regards to the way men and women interact. For instance, check out this scientifically sound graph:
Frankly, denying this simple truth at this point is like being a flat-earther or a creationist. "
No thanks, dude, I like being able to approach a woman closer then two meters without the situation escalating into her running away with her nose clenched shut.
" From my experience, 95% of them automatically put you in the friend zone if they dont find you attractive. The other 4.9% are sluts that will sleep with anything that has a dick and a pulse and the last .1% are actually rational human beings. "
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