I had to look up wikipedia to know that the "current" timeline is 2012, did anybody catch that anywhere in any episodes? I don't know how I missed it.
Anyway, is Woody Harrelson like a sexy/irresistible man in most American eyes? That's the only thing I found absurd in the show. God bless him but I just can't wrap my head around that.
I don't think the Woody Harrelson thing is THAT bad. I mean, he has two girls that are attracted to him seven years apart, and one is attracted to him because he is a hero cop who helped her out. It seems more ridiculous than it is because of the way the show compresses time, but a dude like Hart picking up two girls in a decade doesn't seem too crazy, or am I out to lunch on this?
@geraltitude: Rust's dialogue is pretty anti-type for a cop show.
Totally, but it's really on type for a philosophy undergrad.
Like I said I think the actor saves that character, and it helps that there's some comedic acknowledgement from Woody too.
I like Rust but every now and then I just roll my eyes and feel like Yeah, I remember you saying that in class too.
I think that's exactly the point. Rust talks like he has figured it all out, but in the end it's only a mask, created because he actually cares about the state of the world, obsessively. It's paper thin, just as his anti-social persona - he is perfectly capable of being social, it's just that he's unwilling most of the time. This shines the most in his relationship with Hart's wife: his ambiguous answer to Maggie about Hart's infidelity, his assurance to Hart that Maggie's softening (even though there's nothing to indicate from that conversation, not to mention Rust leaves after silently telling her to fuck off) or when the only time he's screaming is when Maggie betrays his trust to get revenge sex on Marty.
It's kinda like with Max Payne, who hides behind cliches because it helps trivialize his suffering, so it's easier to process. Especially poignant in MP3, when he only starts succeeding once he stops thinking like a film character and starts doing his job for the sake of it.
Exactly. A lot of people criticize this show for trying to be profound via Rust, yet failing and coming off like some dilettante philosophy freshman. But Rust isn't some direct authorial voice, he's a character who uses rhetoric as protection or distraction. I mean, for all his nihilistic whining he is the one most concerned with truth and justice. He's the one who tells kids to get in the bathtub, and who is eaten from the inside out by the murders.
I enjoy these readings of Rust but that's just not what I see I guess. For me, there is nothing between Rust and Maggie other than jealousy on her part and animal urges on both their parts. I don't think Rust ever cared for her but then I don't think he personally cares for people at all. Just people in general. Hence the kid and the bathtub. Hence his dedication to the work.
I'm not knocking the show for trying to be profound, it's the presentation of trying to be profound, and that does include Rust's so-called contradictions. The most basic question/problem of philosophy is that it is theoretical. No one lives by philosophy, regardless of how bad you may want to, so Rust not living his mantra doesn't sound like a complex character to me, though, a real one? Maybe so. Like I said earlier I think McConaghey carries that character very far. Either way his babble really drops off over time, so it's far from my major issue with the show, which is that every one who isn't the two main characters is uninteresting and convenient. I just don't like them. Woody's latest girlfriend/excuse to have a hot girl on TV is just another eye rolling decision into mediocrity that a great show like this didn't need. Of all the ways they could portray his infidelity, the path they chose was the most generic TV of all: cue Maxim Hot Girl, cue Obvious Stupidity (derr forget to erase my 1000s of naked pictures!), cue Obvious Revenge Sex, cue men fighting. Cue 10 years later, Can I buy you a beer?
Still enjoying the show here and there but this last episode was the worst of the bunch I think. It's sold me on McConaghey as a real top notch actor and his movies never have, so that's something. Will finish it obviously and certainly that will reframe the show for me, so who knows, maybe I'll come around in the end.