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#1 Posted by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

I was just reading up about how big the Russian mafia has become right now and I'm curious, if the Irish mob and the Italian (primarily Sicilian) mafia formed an alliance together against the Russians, do you think they could take them out?

#2 Edited by Clonedzero (4050 posts) -

no, i dont think they heave the resources to attack each others native countries turf.

could they team up to drive the russian mob out of a specific area? sure. but stop them completely? no.

edit- you should include the mexican cartel in this, those dudes are scary.

#3 Posted by HatKing (5791 posts) -

It's probably bad how not intimidated I am by the 'gangster' types. Maybe it's all the skinny white boys in my high school who worshiped them.

#4 Edited by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

You're right, the Russian mafia is way too Global. However, there are a lot of Irish and Italians in the U.S. I believe they could drive them out. The Mexican cartel is scary, but that's because unlike the Irish and Italians, they do not have a structured code and so therefor they have no boundaries or limits. They're too wreckless.

#5 Posted by LD50 (416 posts) -
No such thing as the Mafia.
#6 Posted by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

@HatKing said:

It's probably bad how not intimidated I am by the 'gangster' types. Maybe it's all the skinny white boys in my high school who worshiped them.

"Gangster" and Mafia are different. Gangsters like publicity and wear certain clothing to attract attention. Mafia does not. There's a reason it's called "organized crime". Lol

#7 Posted by SexyToad (2760 posts) -

Sure.

#8 Posted by Vinny_Says (5681 posts) -

I don't know, someone run this through a simulator 10 times and tell me the results.

#9 Posted by mrpandaman (864 posts) -

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

#10 Posted by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

#11 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5060 posts) -

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

Just for the five minutes at the end though. The rest can go fuck itself. I just want to see Hitler in a battle to the death against Napoleon.

#12 Posted by mrpandaman (864 posts) -

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

Just for the five minutes at the end though. The rest can go fuck itself. I just want to see Hitler in a battle to the death against Napoleon.

No it'd be Hitler vs Stalin.

#13 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7039 posts) -

Maybe. But if you include Yakuza it's no contest. The Russians wouldn't stand against the Yakuza.

#14 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5060 posts) -

@mrpandaman said:

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

Just for the five minutes at the end though. The rest can go fuck itself. I just want to see Hitler in a battle to the death against Napoleon.

No it'd be Hitler vs Stalin.

How about every other week is "Hitler Vs." week where Hitler battles historical figures and militaristic organizations by himself.

#15 Posted by Tim_the_Corsair (3065 posts) -

The thing that makes the Russians scary is the fact so much of their leadership are ruthless, military or intelligence trained bastards.

I know the cops had a lot of issues with them here in Sydney in the 90s; not sure what it is like these days

#16 Posted by Vinny_Says (5681 posts) -

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@mrpandaman said:

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

Just for the five minutes at the end though. The rest can go fuck itself. I just want to see Hitler in a battle to the death against Napoleon.

No it'd be Hitler vs Stalin.

How about every other week is "Hitler Vs." week where Hitler battles historical figures and militaristic organizations by himself.

until the season finale: Hitler v Hitler

#17 Posted by mrpandaman (864 posts) -

@Vinny_Says said:

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@mrpandaman said:

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

Just for the five minutes at the end though. The rest can go fuck itself. I just want to see Hitler in a battle to the death against Napoleon.

No it'd be Hitler vs Stalin.

How about every other week is "Hitler Vs." week where Hitler battles historical figures and militaristic organizations by himself.

until the season finale: Hitler v Hitler

Oh shit... well both would try to make each other commit suicide.

#18 Posted by Strife777 (1490 posts) -

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

They actually did Yakuza vs Mafia (Italian I believe). But whatever, I watched that show once and it wasn't factual and scientific enough, it was trying to be ''edgy'' a bit too much.

#19 Posted by Tim_the_Corsair (3065 posts) -
@Vinny_Says No no, Hitler versus Mecha-Hitler.

Is the power armour from Wolf 3D canon?
#20 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5060 posts) -

@mrpandaman said:

@Vinny_Says said:

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@mrpandaman said:

@SethPhotopoulos said:

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

Just for the five minutes at the end though. The rest can go fuck itself. I just want to see Hitler in a battle to the death against Napoleon.

No it'd be Hitler vs Stalin.

How about every other week is "Hitler Vs." week where Hitler battles historical figures and militaristic organizations by himself.

until the season finale: Hitler v Hitler

Oh shit... well both would try to make each other commit suicide.

No matter who wins... we lose.

#21 Edited by Xymox (2056 posts) -

For some reason I have a feeling Sonic could answer this question. The chinese mafia, after all, does not mess.

#22 Posted by gaminghooligan (1403 posts) -

nah dude the Russian Mob is mighty and have guys like this:

#23 Posted by dudeglove (7684 posts) -

You people are idiots.

#24 Posted by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

@Strife777 said:

@dr_nefarious said:

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

I wish they would cover this!! :(

They actually did Yakuza vs Mafia (Italian I believe). But whatever, I watched that show once and it wasn't factual and scientific enough, it was trying to be ''edgy'' a bit too much.

Haha. I'd figure if the topic was about the mafia vs yakuza they would try to be "edgy".

#25 Posted by Veektarius (4541 posts) -

@gaminghooligan said:

nah dude the Russian Mob is mighty and have guys like this:

Thanks for that. I'd forgotten that bit of the movie. Best part. Didn't much care for the rest.

#26 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6285 posts) -

Lado from Savages would fuck all of them up.

#27 Posted by BaconGames (3280 posts) -

Now I want a video game to tell me the answer by playing it.

#28 Posted by BluPotato (390 posts) -

Depends which side gets baseball bats and which side gets knives?

#29 Posted by LTSmash (598 posts) -

You're talking about criminal organizations as if they were Superman and the Hulk. Congratulations.

#30 Posted by SmilingPig (1337 posts) -

I never heard of the Irish mob before, I don’t think that they are active in Canada.

#31 Posted by Brodehouse (9521 posts) -

You guys are entirely too optimistic; they would work together and make your entire neighborhood a crime ridden strength-wins-all barbaric hellhole. Gang wars are just a feint.

You can't have nothing in this world because someone will take it from you and hurt you soon enough. It's just a matter of how much you're left with.

#32 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -
#33 Posted by Sploder (917 posts) -

Nah, the Russians are too hardcore.

#34 Posted by Harkat (1100 posts) -

@MariachiMacabre said:

Maybe. But if you include Yakuza it's no contest. The Russians wouldn't stand against the Yakuza.

As cool as the Yakuza are with their Ninja-ness and disaprine and honor and all that, their resources don't match the Russian mob's. Russia is corrupt as fuck, the mob controls everything on some level. Maybe one drunken sergei with his Kalashnikov would get decimated in against a ninja-trained, four-fingered Yakuza dude with his Katana, but the russian mob have a billion sergeis.

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(Apologies for vague racism, please don't ban me, I'm just kidding)

#35 Posted by jerseyscum (861 posts) -

My money's on the Russians and the Mexicans. And the Sicilian mob has nothing on the Camorra (Neapolitan Mob).

#36 Edited by mandude (2669 posts) -

@SmilingPig said:

I never heard of the Irish mob before, I don’t think that they are active in Canada.

That's what we they want you to think.

#37 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

All Italian prospects are now too worry about spiky hair and tanning salons to live a life of crime.

#38 Posted by Tsoglani (579 posts) -

@mrpandaman said:

There's only one thing that can determine that...

the DEADLIEST WARRIOR.

LOL!

But in all honesty, the Russians have way more money, more resources, and pretty much more everything. And they are most likely way more ruthless than the others, more well trained too considering many of them are ex-Russian Special Forces. Add to that the fact that the Italian Mafia has been in serious decline, it is just the evolution of the criminal underworld; there will always be someone to take the place of the previous powers.

#39 Posted by Terramagi (1159 posts) -

So a bunch of criminal families versus the Russian government?

My money's on Putin.

#40 Posted by VoshiNova (1635 posts) -

according to S.T.A.K.E.R the Russian mafia would steam roll any other mafia.

And I'm Irish! But the Irish never faced supernatural beings in video game form.

#41 Posted by felakuti4life (141 posts) -

Well, I'm not sure. It seems unlikely that any entire mafias would declare war on another entire group of organized criminal networks based on ethnicity. From what I've seen, most mob families are seeking long term stability. The end goal is not to be the biggest, best mafia in the world, Sid Meier style- but rather finding safe methods to secure assets by channeling them through small businesses. Thus, I feel like these mafias are more focused on settling internal conflicts and resolving external liabilities than large-scale war mongering.

#42 Posted by SortedeVaras (111 posts) -

Lol I think the Russian mob could stomp out Ireland and Italy as countries if the wanted to. As Germany learned when fighting them, there are a lot of Russians and they are mean. Decades spent under the boot of commies, freezing your ass off and eating gruel in some Siberian forced labor prison camp makes you into a big tough mean bastard. Plus they have military weapons and training. After the Soviets went down loads of nukes and weapons vanished, who do you think it was that sold nukes to everyone we hate? The answer is of course the recently fired Soviet ex-army. The Soviet army was the largest in the world; after the country fell apart most of them could not keep their jobs so they had to go somewhere and being in the mafia sounds way better then starving. Thus you have people raised in the toughest conditions, with military training and armed with high tech weapons. Would be a massacre.

#43 Edited by Hellstrom (199 posts) -

@dr_nefarious said:

You're right, the Russian mafia is way too Global. However, there are a lot of Irish and Italians in the U.S. I believe they could drive them out. The Mexican cartel is scary, but that's because unlike the Irish and Italians, they do not have a structured code and so therefor they have no boundaries or limits. They're too wreckless.

There's still an irish mob in America, wut?

Besides shouldn't the majority of Irish & Italian Americans now be like 10 other ethnicities and have no ties to the mother land since most of them settled in melting pots (New York, California etc)?

#45 Posted by crusader8463 (14411 posts) -

@GenocidalKitten said:

@dudeglove said:

You people are idiots.

You hadn't noticed that already? Anyway, back on the topic of Hitler VS mecha Hitler.....

Mecha Hitler obviously would win. He's everything Hitler is in a metal body. It's no contest.

As for the OP, no grouping of that kind would work in the end as they have been at war with each other for too long to ever get along. All it would take would be one idiot with bad blood with another to meet up at the wrong time and it all goes to shit and they start in fighting again.

#46 Posted by Walreese55 (498 posts) -

No. You can't stamp out an entire nation's mafia no matter how many men you have. Also, this isn't a fucking video game and if this were to happen, the streets would literally flow with blood. Please dont jest about criminal organizations that brutally murder innocents, it makes society humanize with monsters

#47 Posted by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

@mandude said:

@SmilingPig said:

I never heard of the Irish mob before, I don’t think that they are active in Canada.

That's what they want you to think.

Exactly. Irish-mobs are still very active around the world. They work in secrecy. The Italians are the ones who love to bask in the media.

#48 Posted by dr_nefarious (1613 posts) -

@brainboy77 said:

No. You can't stamp out an entire nation's mafia no matter how many men you have. Also, this isn't a fucking video game and if this were to happen, the streets would literally flow with blood. Please dont jest about criminal organizations that brutally murder innocents, it makes society humanize with monsters

Society already sympathizes with the monsters.

#49 Posted by Yummylee (21208 posts) -

Goku.

#50 Edited by Fattony12000 (6963 posts) -

During the 40s and 50s, sure.

Ah, those were the days.