#1 Posted by shivermetimbers (764 posts) -

Perhaps I'm just too old, but I didn't really like the new Evil Dead. Oh, it's certainly better than most horror remakes out there and better than your average mainstream horror film these days, but it's missing something that I can't really get a hold of.

The old Evil Dead movies had fun with themselves. They had the shock value, the cheesiness, and the low budget 'oh snap we went there' thrills that this new one lacks. It had the gore, but it didn't bring with it the fun.

I was wondering your thoughts on the new Evil Dead. This seems like a community well suiting for asking.

#2 Edited by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

Haven't seen it. I started watching the original on Netflix the other day, and it seemed alright, but at the same time it felt like I've seen this a thousand times before.

#3 Edited by shivermetimbers (764 posts) -

@jdh5153: You might like Evil Dead 2 better.

#4 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1421 posts) -

If it's better than most current crap out there, then I guess the crew did a good job. Though I haven't seen it yet, I'm glad to be hearing that it's not the same as the original (no reason to).

#5 Edited by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -

One of my buddies -- a huge horror movie aficionado -- was severely disappointed with it to the point where he questioned Raimi's and Campbell's association with the film.

#6 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3050 posts) -

A classic for our generation. Complete and utter garbage. I haven't seen it.

#7 Edited by Sarnecki (693 posts) -

It's pretty decent. People who are saying it's terrible are fucking lunatics. It's 70's gore in the era of Paranormal Activity, and I love that about it. Sadly the actors are very American Apparel and their delivery sucks. All the stuff in the trailer of Mia taunting the group was not in the script or the movie, neither is David using the chainsaw and getting blood all over his face. Lots of little shots from that Comic Con trailer were shot EXCLUSIVELY for the comic con audience and to bring in fans, which strikes me as kind of shitty and low.

I did love a lot of stuff. That poor Eric dude gets his ass KICKED. I can't think of another movie character who takes more pain and punishment. The book in the barb wire was cool, as was the possession "ticks" that characters had as the demon tried to force its way into their bodies and take control.

A mixed bag that comes out more positive than negative, and it made 26 mil so look for a sequel.

#8 Edited by shivermetimbers (764 posts) -

One of my buddies -- a huge horror movie aficionado -- was severely disappointed with it to the point where he questioned Raimi's and Campbell's association with the film.

Campbell is supposed to be in the sequel...and he appears after the credits of this film.

#9 Edited by CollegeGuyMike (388 posts) -

@shivermetimbers: Campbell's only going to appear in an Evil Dead/Army of Darkness that Raimi writes/Directs, but they've said that they'd like to have two different Evil Dead series and then have them merge some point in the future Avengers style.

I see it like this, they've basically said the only way we'll get ED/AoD with Campbell/Raimi is if this new Evil Dead does well which it seems to be, so that's awesome news. I thought it was pretty great, but since the two showings that I saw I've also realized that there was maybe just, something, missing. I'm not quite what exactly it is, either. For now I'm just chalking it up to a fairly new director having to create something in a series surrounded by 30 years of legacy. I'm excited to see Fede make it even more of his own thing in a sequel in this vein, or go the Raimi route and just completely change the tone and everything for the next one. I'm honestly excited either way.

#10 Edited by maskedarcstrike (701 posts) -

@sarnecki said:

It's pretty decent. People who are saying it's terrible are fucking lunatics. It's 70's gore in the era of Paranormal Activity, and I love that about it. Sadly the actors are very American Apparel and their delivery sucks. All the stuff in the trailer of Mia taunting the group was not in the script or the movie, neither is David using the chainsaw and getting blood all over his face. Lots of little shots from that Comic Con trailer were shot EXCLUSIVELY for the comic con audience and to bring in fans, which strikes me as kind of shitty and low.

I did love a lot of stuff. That poor Eric dude gets his ass KICKED. I can't think of another movie character who takes more pain and punishment. The book in the barb wire was cool, as was the possession "ticks" that characters had as the demon tried to force its way into their bodies and take control.

A mixed bag that comes out more positive than negative, and it made 26 mil so look for a sequel.

well that's disappointing, especially coming off of Drag me to Hell. Which I thought had tons of potential and overall was pretty good other than some minor issues.

#11 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4661 posts) -

The new Evil Dead film has plenty of the gross out gore that was cranked to comedic levels in both the original and Dead By Dawn (Army of Darkness was pretty much a family film by today's standards), but it lacked all of the charm. All of it. The characters were unlikable and there wasn't anyone with a drop of charisma or character to stand out like Ash did in the original. There's just... gore scene after gore scene with zero tension to it. Hell, the tree rape scene felt oddly sterile and not at all horrifying. I've seen worse browsing Google Image Search at 3 AM.

On the whole it felt like a studio movie - I imagine on the page it had plenty of charm and wit to it, but all of it got sucked out with all the zeal of a Superhead blow job by the time production actually began.

Hell, all of this is before looking at it through the lens of a post Cabin in the Woods world. When viewed through that, the movie gets even worse.

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#12 Edited by leftie68 (215 posts) -

@oldirtybearon: I completely agree. The movie was a C+ (The original movie is one of my favorite movies). It was missing the charm of the original trilogy. Definitely not as good as Drag Me To Hell or Cabin in the Woods, but given the direction of horror films in general, it is better than most of the body possession/contorting crap out there. I really wanted to like the movie, and I did....a little...but it ended up being a disappoint for a fan of the original.

#13 Posted by maskedarcstrike (701 posts) -

@sarnecki: When you say possession "ticks" is it like Tales From the Crypt Demon Knight when Billy Zane seduced people? I really want to watch that movie again now......

#14 Edited by Bocam (3705 posts) -

David was pretty annoying.

#15 Posted by MaximusArtimus (41 posts) -

I really liked it. It was a different feel then the old ones, but I enjoyed the direction it went. Also, the "GROOVY" part at the end pretty much made it for me.

#16 Edited by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

@shivermetimbers:

I get that, but I don't think the first really had that much fun with itself. I recently rewatched it, and it's played pretty much entirely seriously and, honestly, is pretty standard horror fare for its time. I feel like the charm everyone is talking about didn't show up until Evil Dead 2 when they started having fun with it.

#17 Posted by pause422 (6178 posts) -

Actually evil dead 2 and onward is what you are thinking about with alot of the playing around and some comedy/fun aspects. Evil Dead 1 was mostly bare of that. The remake was actually very faithful.

#18 Edited by TooWalrus (13152 posts) -

I saw it. The movie itself is hot garbage, but being in a packed theater (mostly filled with highschool girls) opening night was a good time.

#19 Posted by shivermetimbers (764 posts) -

The new Evil Dead film has plenty of the gross out gore that was cranked to comedic levels in both the original and Dead By Dawn (Army of Darkness was pretty much a family film by today's standards), but it lacked all of the charm. All of it. The characters were unlikable and there wasn't anyone with a drop of charisma or character to stand out like Ash did in the original. There's just... gore scene after gore scene with zero tension to it. Hell, the tree rape scene felt oddly sterile and not at all horrifying. I've seen worse browsing Google Image Search at 3 AM.

On the whole it felt like a studio movie - I imagine on the page it had plenty of charm and wit to it, but all of it got sucked out with all the zeal of a Superhead blow job by the time production actually began.

Hell, all of this is before looking at it through the lens of a post Cabin in the Woods world. When viewed through that, the movie gets even worse.

I feel you've pretty much summed up my feelings on it all. Charm is definitely what the remake is missing. You mentioned the tree rape scene, which was definitely more shocking in the original film. Here, we expect it, though, which may take away the shocking feeling. Still, it's not nearly as effective here.

Now, as for those who say that Evil Dead 1 was more straight up horror than Evil Dead 2 is something I agree with. However, I still believe that the essence of black comedy is still present, it's just more subtle.

#20 Edited by thebipsnbeeps (545 posts) -

Only watched Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness as far as "that universe" goes. I never watched the original Evil Dead and not all that much horror movies for that matter. I thought it was fun; I liked some of the shots and action in the movie. Characters were really thin written-wise, and probably acting-wise too. The worst was David's girlfriend; just utterly expendable. It was more of a "don't do it don't do it ah you totally did it" kind of movie. Nothing wrong with that if you get into it, but could have been better.

#21 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

I hear it's really violent.

#22 Posted by EpicSteve (6479 posts) -

I thought it was great.

#23 Posted by Redbullet685 (6031 posts) -

I thought it was a pretty good movie. It had exactly what I wanted from it: tons and tons of gore.

Oh, and it may have the most unlikable characters ever. Out of the 5, Eric was the only one that was cool but he was the one who made everything go to shit and he got fucked up so bad in it. Nails to the face/arm, hand crowbar-ed in half and crowbar to face, needle to the eye multiple times, stabbed in upper chest and abdomen, and finally burned in the cabin. Jesus.

#24 Posted by ThomasG666 (154 posts) -

Well, I didn't really expect much from another remake of a horror movie, but I really enjoyed it!

#25 Edited by Intro (1206 posts) -

I liked it, it was fucked up lol. Going to see it tomorrow again (I work at a theater and I'm taking a friend who hasn't saw it, so don't hound me on how I'm paying to see it twice).

Also people who complain about every single movie are some of the worst fucking people in my mind. It just pisses me off everytime on IMDB for example, even on some top rated movies, people are nitpicking all kinds of little shit and saying how it hurt the film. I understand as a "reviewer" you have the right to your opinion and thoughts and I respect that. But a lot of these people bitch and moan about every remake of any movie and how bad it's gonna be, then they go see it anyway and continue to bitch. I'm sorry in advance for the unneeded rant.

But yeah, all the kill scenes were awesome. The machete, chainsaw, nailgun.... all great lol. Also, two people at a nearby theater passed out when watching it lol.

#26 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6294 posts) -

Saw it twice this weekend, loved it each time. The jump scares never even felt cheap and the gore was fantastic.

#27 Edited by Wrighteous86 (3780 posts) -

@maximusartimus said:

I really liked it. It was a different feel then the old ones, but I enjoyed the direction it went. Also, the "GROOVY" part at the end pretty much made it for me.

I waited after the credits because people hyped this up. It's literally 7 seconds.

Seeing Bruce Campbell shrouded in darkness to hide his fat and age, lift his head, say Groovy, and smirk at the camera... I don't get it. You can see him do that inany interview or anything. It was a cool reminder of the original, but it wasn't worth the wait. I actually enjoyed the tape recording from the original playing over the end of the credits more.

#28 Edited by CaptainTightPants (2834 posts) -

The last 10-15 minutes are phenomenal, absolutely relentless. But I thought the rest of the movie was disappointing. I'm real jumpy when it comes to horror movies and I didn't even come close to it. It's creepy, though, and I did cringe at some of the gore.

#29 Edited by Fobwashed (1949 posts) -

Spoilers to follow -_-;;

The original Evil Dead used to be one of my favorite horror films but I have to admit it's been so long since I've seen it that I don't remember anything but the main story beats. There were a lot of bits to the movie I didn't like but nothing in the movie really offended me. They did a very solid job of using her drug rehabilitation as a reason not to leave when she first started spewing craziness. It seemed like this wasn't as much a remake as it was just another story that takes place at the cabin with the book since the thing starts off with the end to what could have been another story. The gore in this movie also felt tasteful in that it's not just gore porn like those hostel movies but were results of actions taking place in the story. A few days later, I can barely remember what it was about this movie that I didn't like and all I can remember is that last fight and it was a damn doozy. One of the best final face offs I've seen and a great use of viewer expectation (chainsaw/arm). Apart from not remaking it at all, I'd say it's just about as good a remake as you can make. I really hope they try out Army of Darkness as well =P

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#30 Posted by fiberpay (282 posts) -

Anyone who went into this expecting the original got what they deserved. This movie was never going to be that.

#31 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4661 posts) -

@fiberpay said:

Anyone who went into this expecting the original got what they deserved. This movie was never going to be that.

Then they should not have called it an Evil Dead movie. Cashing in on legacy does not excuse hoodwinking an audience into seeing a bland horror movie.

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#32 Posted by DarthOrange (3857 posts) -

What the fuck were some of you expecting? This movie was fantastic, and I might even put it in front of Army of Darkness (but behind Evil Dead 2) for best movie in the franchise.

#33 Edited by fiberpay (282 posts) -

@fiberpay said:

Anyone who went into this expecting the original got what they deserved. This movie was never going to be that.

Then they should not have called it an Evil Dead movie. Cashing in on legacy does not excuse hoodwinking an audience into seeing a bland horror movie.

lol the new Evil Dead was a reboot. A perfectly normal thing to do.

#34 Posted by gaminghooligan (1434 posts) -

It was perfectly fine, nothing special. I was pleasantly surprised it didn't suck.

#35 Edited by therealhowwie (17 posts) -

It wasn't bad. It sets up the story fine. It's unintentional cheese is not nearly as charming as the original. But I've got to say, it's tense as hell. And they put those characters through everything I could possibly think of. I will say that there's no quick deaths for characters in the flick, that's for damn sure.

#36 Edited by teh_destroyer (3565 posts) -

No Bruce Campbell, not interested.