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#1  Edited By Austin

I'm from the U.S.A. and I don't know alot about you all history/government. I know y'all have a monarchy though. So want I want to ask is. Where the hell is your king? Why do you only have a queen thats like 80 years old. Did her husband die or something? And If Queen Elizabeth died, would Prince Harry become King?

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#2  Edited By Snipzor

Not exactly a Monarchy, hasn't been for a long time actually.

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#3  Edited By Jayge_

I, too, want to know. Who is shagging that old hag up in that there castle with the fuzzy-hatted men who don't look at you? Brimhatwhatsit? Burning ham?

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#4  Edited By Gunner

England is as much of a monarchy as the US is a Democracy these days.

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#5  Edited By Austin
Jayge_ said:
I, too, want to know. Who is shagging that old hag up in that there castle with the fuzzy-hatted men ... [more]
LMFAO!!! DUDE! U made me laugh so fuckin hard! Ssrs... lol damn i din't know reading text could make me lmfso!
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#6  Edited By Hamz

The royal family and the titles held by them is a pretty long and complicated thing to explain.

So I'll break it down as simply as I can for you. Queen Elizabeth is married to Prince Philip who is only a Prince by title, basically marrying her got him that title, otherwise as far as I am aware he isn't technically of royal lineage / blood / upbringing.

If Queen Elizabeth dies then her eldest son Prince Charles takes the throne, if he dies then Prince William takes it.

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#7  Edited By turbomonkey138

In Britian the monchary is there only as a figure head . She has no power and controlls no part of the government . Shes basicly there for the tourists and old people . When she dies Prince Charles will be king .

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#8  Edited By Gunner
Austin said:
Jayge_ said: I, too, want to know. Who is shagging that old hag up in that there castle with the ... [more]
Yeah Jayge, your a funny guy, you doesnt afraid of anything.
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#9  Edited By Austin
Hamz said:
The royal family and the titles held by them is a pretty long and complicated thing to explain.So I'll break ... [more]
Oh. so there are more than one person in line for heir to the throne., gotcha.
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#10  Edited By Hamz
@Austin: There always is. If the current Queen didn't have any children then they would look into the entire Royal Families history to find the person with the blood relation to her and essentially find out who should be the next head of state.

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#11  Edited By AhmadMetallic

i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day

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#12  Edited By Gunner
AhmadMetallic said:
i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day
... why would you say that?
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#13  Edited By turbomonkey138
AhmadMetallic said:
i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day
Is that becuase she is human ?
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#14  Edited By Gunner
turbomonkey138 said:
AhmadMetallic said: i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day Is that becuase she is human ? [more]
Everyone is human man! No one can control me!

ANARCHY IN THE U.K!
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#15  Edited By turbomonkey138
Gunner612 said:
turbomonkey138 said: AhmadMetallic said: i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day Is that becuase she is human ... [more]
The sex pistols version or the megadeth one ?
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#16  Edited By Gunner
turbomonkey138 said:
Gunner612 said: turbomonkey138 said: AhmadMetallic said: i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day Is that becuase she ... [more]
Sex Pistols of course, 70's punk is were its at.
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#17  Edited By Linkyshinks
Austin said:
Hamz said: The royal family and the titles held by them is a pretty long and complicated thing to explain.So ... [more]

This is the order of succession..

  1. HRH The Prince Charles, The Prince of Wales (b. 1948)

  2. HRH Prince William of Wales, eldest son of The Prince Charles (b. 1982)

  3. HRH Prince Henry of Wales, (Prince Harry)younger son of The Prince Charles (b. 1984)

  4. HRH The Prince Andrew, The Duke of York, second son of HM Queen Elizabeth II (b. 1960)

  5. HRH Princess Beatrice of York, elder daughter of The Prince Andrew (b. 1988)

  6. HRH Princess Eugenie of York, younger daughter of The Prince Andrew (b. 1990)

  7. HRH The Prince Edward, The Earl of Wessex, youngest son of HM Queen Elizabeth II (b. 1964)

  8. Viscount Severn, James Alexander Philip Theo Mountbatten-Windsor, son of HRH The Prince Edward, The Earl of Wessex (b.2007)

  9. Lady Louise Alice Elizabeth Mary Mountbatten-Windsor, daughter of HRH The Prince Edward, The Earl of Wessex (b. 2003)

  10. HRH The Princess Anne, The Princess Royal, only daughter of HM Queen Elizabeth II (1950)

  11. Mr Peter Phillips, son of The Princess Anne (b. 1977)

  12. Miss Zara Phillips, daughter of The Princess Anne (b. 1981)

  13. David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley, son of The Princess Margaret (b. 1961)

  14. The Honorable Charles Armstrong Jones (b. 1999), son of David, Viscount Linley

  15. Margarita Armstrong-Jones (b. 2002), daughter of David, Viscount Linley

  16. The Lady Sarah Chatto, daughter of The Princess Margaret (b. 1964)











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#18  Edited By turbomonkey138
Linkyshinks said:
Austin said: Hamz said: The royal family and the titles held by them is a pretty long and complicated thing ... [more]
Wikipedia ?
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#19  Edited By Scieran
Austin said:
I'm from the U.S.A. and I don't know alot about you all history/government. I know y'all have a monarchy though. ... [more]
It's really big and messy. Best to do some research on Wikipedia.
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#20  Edited By AhmadMetallic
Gunner612 said:
AhmadMetallic said: i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day ... why would you say that? [more]
I'm not sure i was talking to a british friend once and he mentioned something like that.. just my 2 cents

turbomonkey138 said:
AhmadMetallic said: i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day Is that becuase she is human ? [more]
Hmmm.
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#21  Edited By AhmadMetallic
turbomonkey138 said:
Gunner612 said: turbomonkey138 said: AhmadMetallic said: i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day Is that becuase she ... [more]
the Megadeth cover is pretty sweet but still, the original is always better
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#22  Edited By Ineedaname

Our Royal family don't have as much people as they used to, they're good for tourism though most power lies with our government.
Our current government is Labour although they've not done very well so I'd imagine at the next election someone else will take over possibly the conservative.
There's been a recent thing coming out over the past couple of weeks where Labour members have been using tax to buy things for their home and pay for mortgages and what not, so basically stealing, lots have walked, and others said they'd go at the next election because if they leave at the next a election if they don't win, they get a set amount of money based on how long they've been in power, I was reading someone's getting £30K to quit.


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#23  Edited By Sticky_Pennies

This is a joke about the Queen's corgi collection.

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#24  Edited By Commando
AhmadMetallic said:
i heard that the queen farts 8 times a day
Lucky. I know I fart a whole lot more than 8 times a day. 30-40 times a day for me.
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#25  Edited By donwoogie
Austin said:
I'm from the U.S.A. and I don't know alot about you all history/government. I know y'all have a monarchy though. ... [more]
I believe we run a system referred to as a "Constitutional Monarchy" which is where we have a hereditary ruler which is pretty much just a figurehead whilst a head of state (in our case, Prime Minister and Parliament) holds the actual power.  If I remember correctly, the Queen does have powers, like a veto in all parliaments and the ability to claim land in England, but that's more an archaic rule that she never really gets to use since A) She's not that barmy B) Parliament would just strip her of those if it came to it.  There have been a few minor instances in the past where the Queen has had a small influence in politics and each time there has been an uproar over the smallest of issues so the whole Royal Family tends to stay as well clear of politics as possible.
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#26  Edited By Oriental_Jams
Austin said:
I'm from the U.S.A. and I don't know alot about you all history/government. I know y'all have a monarchy though. ... [more]
Elizabeth's husband is Prince Phillip; he is not the king because he is not in the Windsor bloodline, Queenie on the other hand, is. If she died, Charles (her son) would become king, then it would be William, Harry and if they all die, someone completely different gets it. Andrew I think.
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Our Royal family don't have as much people as they used to, they're good for tourism though most power lies ... [more]
Ah, the good old expenses scandal. I find it entertaining how the more offensive things are sometimes the cheaper ones, like those two toilet seats, the porn, the dog food. And yes, all of the ones who quit get redundancy pay. And a pension.
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#27  Edited By WitchHunter_Z
@turbomonkey138: Actually, she does have some power, although it's now only truly ceremonial now, when Parliment passes a bill she has the final power to put it in place, and without her approval it doesn't become law.
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#29  Edited By donwoogie
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Prince Charles would become King, should the queen die. Right? I'm pretty sure that's where it's at right now, and ... [more]

Yup.  I quite like having a Monarchy.  Partly because of Prince Philip's constant racist slip of the tongues :P
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#30  Edited By MachoFantastico

The Royal Family doesn't particularly have much power nowadays compared to the days of old, but they still play an important part in not just the United Kingdom. She is a key figure for many countries such as New Zealand, Canada and so many other countries. Most members of the commonwealth (when we actually had a massive Empire and all) also see her as a key figure. There not always liked, but I think the majority of the public like what they do and what they representent. Not to mention how much revenue they earn in tourism. 

Queen Elizabeth II is the queen much like Queen Elizabeth I was, her husband isn't of the bloodline I believe and is generally seen as somewhat of a racist, whenever he opens his mouth he usually says something rather stupid. When Queen Elizabeth II does die, Prince Charles will be named King and when he dies his oldest son Prince William will become King. It can get rather complicated, but I have to admit I like the Royal family despite how folk see them most of the time. Reminds this country that we were once a proud nation rather then the apologising screw-ups that our Government as put us into today.

I'll still find it odd to sing 'God Save the King' at England football matches :D

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#31  Edited By The_A_Drain

Ehh, not even us brits know whats going on nowadays, and anyone who claims they do got the info from wiki I guarantee it.

But seriously. it's not like it even matters, all they do is ride around waving and wasting british taxpayers money.

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#32  Edited By get2sammyb

Did you know, if we didn't have the fecking Royal Family we could each buy ourselves a Mars bar from the money we'd save. Due to inflation I reckon we might be able to stretch to a Snickers Duo given I heard that figure a while ago.

I want my Snickers Duo.

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#33  Edited By The_A_Drain
@get2sammyb:

Yeah, I know that it isn't a lot of money, and that people think it's insignificant. But i'm sure that the NHS would be gratefull for it, or some other taxpayer funded government body. Personally, i'd like to see it go into replaceing the space program cutbacks they made supposedly for the NHS' benefit.
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#34  Edited By Gunner
get2sammyb said:
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Im not one to mingle in other peoples politics, but that money could still be better spent.
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#35  Edited By get2sammyb
@The_A_Drain: Alas it is a lot of money when you multiply it by the entire population.

You have to remeber though, that money is offset by creating a "tourist attraction" and the royals genuinely do some good. They do a lot of charity work and community based things. I think people understate the fact that the royal's genuinely do a lot for bringing attention to important subjects.

They're not important per se, but they are almost like a PR figure-head these days, and while I don't neccessarily agree that they're worthwhile; they do more than just sitting around.
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#36  Edited By The_A_Drain
@get2sammyb:

Well they'd have to, or we'd have revolted already :P

I still honestly feel we'd be better off without them.
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#37  Edited By Oriental_Jams
@The_A_Drain:

I dunno, surely the amount of tourism they bring in offsets the amount it costs us.
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#38  Edited By get2sammyb
@The_A_Drain: Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the royals either to be honest with you.

But at least they're not stealing the tax-payers money to pay-off their second mortgage/put a moat around their house.

Here's something you Americans might not know about: our MP's (basically Members of Parliament - i.e. the government) are able to claim expenses from the tax payer. For example they might be able to pay for a train journey or whatever, if it's work related.

Those guys have been claiming money to have their tennis courts repaired, pay off a second mortgage, have a moat built around their house... It goes on.

So the country is basically billions in debt, there are no jobs, and the people running the country are bleeding the tax payer dry.
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#39  Edited By Oriental_Jams
@get2sammyb:

The best was the £80,000 used to get a forest inspected. Think he also said that he was in the right and that everyone was just jealous because his house was huge.
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#40  Edited By The_A_Drain
@get2sammyb:

While I agree, I don't see how that exhonorates the royal families current existence. They are effectively doing the same thing, living lavishly at the expense of the taxpayer. As for tourism, we have enough legitimate attractions we don't need some phony ass royal family.
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#41  Edited By KaosAngel

In Britain, they often do things different.  The great historian JR Tolken, has proof of their history. 

You see, in America, everyone is equal as long as you're born a white man in a rich family. 

In Britan, they often have to deal with Dr.  Who screwing things up. 

I hope this answers your question.

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#42  Edited By Jimbo

To answer your original point:  Her husband isn't 'King', because he only married into it.  If the Queen had any brothers (older or younger) then they would be King in her place - and she could never become Queen unless her brother/s died childless.

However, if we did have a King then (ordinarly) his wife would be known as Queen Whatever, but that still wouldn't put her anywhere in the line of succession.

It is said to be largely a ceremonial position, yet every member of the British armed forces still swears allegiance to the monarch upon joining.  In the (extremely unlikely) event of the Monarch acting against Parliament, who's to say how that would go down?  I suspect if it came to it, a substantial part of the military would not refuse an order from their Queen.

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#43  Edited By Drebin_893

By the way, the monarch still is the most powerful person in England. She can over rule every government decision (if it was wasn't for a last minute decision, she would have stopped us participating in the Iraq war), she just chooses not to use that.

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#44  Edited By krazy_kyle

As you are an american i don't rly see why you need to know this? :S

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#45  Edited By JBird

Somthing that depresses me is that in schools and college etc it seems like each country just learns about all the other country's worst moments and things. This conversation just made me realise i dont really know any of the USA's great moments. Like here in the UK i've studied history up until A levels....(which is the qualification before university if people need a reference point.) And i've spent at least half the time learning about the Holocaust, rise of stalin, the cold war, the KKK. Racism in the US, The Korean War. pretty much anything that puts another country in a bad light. I spoke to a french guy who said he learnt about the British Miner's Strikes, our racism, etc.

I can only speak for my experiences of education, and  I might be completly wrong, but it seems a shame that most countrys just teach students the failures of other countrys and not the successes. What do you guys think?

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#46  Edited By Jimbo

It's not really a choice.  She is obliged to follow whatever Parliament tells her, if she went off the reservation and started trying to overrule Parliament they would remove the entire Royal Family by the end of the week.  That's the theory at least; that's what you get for losing the civil war.

In reality I think HM is (generally) well loved by the population and - more importantly - extremely well loved by the military.  I don't think removing her would be easy - and she knows the fight would be worse for the country than whatever she was trying to overrule anyway.  It would take an extremely serious situation for her to interfere with the running of the country.

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#47  Edited By get2sammyb
@The_A_Drain: Yes, but my point is, at the very least the Royal Family are bringing in tourists (which in turn are generating jobs for waiters, bar workers, etc) and being a public figure for charity.

I'd bet my top hat that some of these MPs just "go with the flow", don't do a fat lot, and claim expenses for their efforts.

The people I feel worst for are the genuine MPs who are sadly going to get tarnished by all the thieves.
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#48  Edited By NathHaw
@JBird:

I think that's an excellent point except many good things are taught as well.  It's just a lot easier to remember and reference the bad.  Internet forums are one of those less-than-ideal places to get an accurate representation of a country.  Occasionally good, but yeah.
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#49  Edited By time allen

The queen is just a figurehead nowadays.

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#50  Edited By Colonel_Cool

Isn't the monarchy also the head of the Church of England as well?