#1 Edited by Nightriff (5096 posts) -

Just finished watching seasons 1 and 2 (still have the movie left) and uhhhh, not really sure what the fuck happened that last 15 minutes....not really sure what happened at all...

So does anyone have ideas what all that stuff means? Know of any breakdowns/synopsis I could read to help explain that craziness? I highly doubt the movie will solve any of that stuff. I read one thing and it seemed to explain some stuff but I would like to read some more regarding all the symbolism

#2 Posted by Soapy86 (2622 posts) -

The real Cooper was stuck in the Red Room and the one in the hotel was doppelganger possed by Bob.

Or something.

A word of warning about Fire Walk With Me; It's very different than the series. I personally love it, but a lot of people seem to hate it.

#3 Posted by doomguy64 (17 posts) -

Damn I wish they did a final season or a follow movie to further to story. Season 2 finale was too abrupt and bleak, made it look like there was no hope left for cooper.

Twin Peak fans, check out "The Killing" US version. Goes only the same lines as Twin Peaks minus the setting and supernatural themes.

#4 Posted by TheHT (11362 posts) -

been seeing a lot of twin peaks talk lately, and it's freaking me out since i started watching it yesterday and literally just finished season 1 a minute ago.

>_>

<_<

#5 Posted by Oscar__Explosion (2323 posts) -

I really loved season one and part of season two up until the murderer was found. Things went downhill super fucking fast after that and I just had to quit.

#6 Posted by Wrighteous86 (3782 posts) -

Damn I wish they did a final season or a follow movie to further to story. Season 2 finale was too abrupt and bleak, made it look like there was no hope left for cooper.

Twin Peak fans, check out "The Killing" US version. Goes only the same lines as Twin Peaks minus the setting and supernatural themes.

So minus the things everyone loves about Twin Peaks? Gotcha.

Haha, I know what you were getting at, but I just thought that was funny. The concept of solving a murder over the course of a season or two is actually a good one, as long as they have it all plotted out (which I heard The Killing didn't, right)?

#7 Posted by JasonR86 (9714 posts) -

Just finished watching seasons 1 and 2 (still have the movie left) and uhhhh, not really sure what the fuck happened that last 15 minutes....not really sure what happened at all...

So does anyone have ideas what all that stuff means? Know of any breakdowns/synopsis I could read to help explain that craziness? I highly doubt the movie will solve any of that stuff. I read one thing and it seemed to explain some stuff but I would like to read some more regarding all the symbolism

Real Cooper is stuck in the black lodge and can't leave. The doppelganger, with Bob in him, is now free to roam Earth so that he can kill again through Cooper as he did through Laura's Dad. Watch Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me to get a little more of a back story as it gives a little more detail. That last episode is so fucking awesome!

#8 Edited by Soapy86 (2622 posts) -

@wrighteous86 said:

@doomguy64 said:

Damn I wish they did a final season or a follow movie to further to story. Season 2 finale was too abrupt and bleak, made it look like there was no hope left for cooper.

Twin Peak fans, check out "The Killing" US version. Goes only the same lines as Twin Peaks minus the setting and supernatural themes.

So minus the things everyone loves about Twin Peaks? Gotcha.

Haha, I know what you were getting at, but I just thought that was funny. The concept of solving a murder over the course of a season or two is actually a good one, as long as they have it all plotted out (which I heard The Killing didn't, right)?

The Killing wasn't great. Especially season two. There were good parts to it, but the whole thing just kind of dragged on and on. And yes, The Killing is essentially Twin Peaks with none of the charm.

I liked it enough to check out season three though.

@doomguy64 said:

Damn I wish they did a final season or a follow movie to further to story. Season 2 finale was too abrupt and bleak, made it look like there was no hope left for cooper.

BELIEVE

#9 Posted by Pr1mus (3934 posts) -

I never watched Twin Peaks but let's say that i really like X-Files and had a great time with some of the more campy episodes like "War of the Coprophages" or "Clyde Bruckmann's Final Repose" would i like this show?

Or maybe i get it completely wrong. It's the impression i get from the show by reading the wikipedia page.

#10 Edited by Soapy86 (2622 posts) -

@pr1mus: The only way to find out is to give it a try. It's very different than The X-Files, but I do think if you like the X-Files there's probably a bit of built-in appeal though.

#11 Edited by mellotronrules (1193 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

@nightriff said:

Just finished watching seasons 1 and 2 (still have the movie left) and uhhhh, not really sure what the fuck happened that last 15 minutes....not really sure what happened at all...

So does anyone have ideas what all that stuff means? Know of any breakdowns/synopsis I could read to help explain that craziness? I highly doubt the movie will solve any of that stuff. I read one thing and it seemed to explain some stuff but I would like to read some more regarding all the symbolism

Real Cooper is stuck in the black lodge and can't leave. The doppelganger, with Bob in him, is now free to roam Earth so that he can kill again through Cooper as he did through Laura's Dad. Watch Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me to get a little more of a back story as it gives a little more detail. That last episode is so fucking awesome!

this. but also the show got canceled, and from what i understand that had a profound impact on the final episodes. they packed a lot in without any hope of resolution. but oddly enough, i sort of like it that way...the show marched to the beat of its own drum, and god damn if it didn't finish that way as well.

edit: WHERE'S ANNIE!?

#13 Posted by doomguy64 (17 posts) -

@wrighteous86: Yeah its plotted throughout the two seasons and it does drag at times but characters like holder and a few others really make the show shine.

@soapy86: I really do hope Lynch makes a return to it.

#14 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

Man, as good as the first season is, and the second season is up until the resolution of Laura's death, the following 10 or so episodes really devolve into some ham-fisted, melodramatic shit.

Yes, it somewhat saves itself at the end, but if I ever rewatch it, I'd probably just skip straight from the reveal to the last two episodes. As far as I can remember, a ton of the stuff that happens between those two points basically goes by the wayside in the finale.

#15 Posted by Nightriff (5096 posts) -

Sense this has kinda turned into Twin Peaks discussion, I thought season 2 was great, not as good as 1 of course but overall I enjoyed the ride. Until Laura's Death and anything with Earle was fantastic, everything else was hit or miss, James side story was awful and Horne and the Civil war was stupid as shit.

#16 Posted by Max_Cherry (1136 posts) -

I've never watched the last 9 episodes of "Twin Peaks."

#17 Edited by Soapy86 (2622 posts) -

@doomguy64: Holder was a great character. He was the main reason I kept watching after a certain point.

@nightriff: I agree. I think season two gets a lot of undeserved shit flung its way. There's a run of five or six episodes in the middle that aren't great that are kind of rough to get through, but the rest of season two is mostly pretty good. It has a lot of great moments and a few of the best episodes of the series, including the best episode in my opinion.

#18 Edited by Nightriff (5096 posts) -

@soapy86: What do you think is the best episode? I don't think I could narrow it to 1 specific one because I have only seen it once but more a lot of memorable moments. Anytime the other FBI agents showed up were classic, Gordon was my favorite; the relationship between Audrey and Cooper was fantastic and was very sad to see it end for no apparent reason; everything Pete related.

Anyone have a good reason for Josie shooting Cooper? I still don't understand why she did

#19 Posted by Soapy86 (2622 posts) -
#20 Posted by TheHT (11362 posts) -

I'm on episode 15 and need a place to vent. I kept watching after the muder was resolved because I was realy interested in the lodge stuff and figured that would take center stage, but the framing and the leo shit and josie's bullcrap is making it rough to get through.

#21 Posted by JasonR86 (9714 posts) -

@theht said:

I'm on episode 15 and need a place to vent. I kept watching after the muder was resolved because I was realy interested in the lodge stuff and figured that would take center stage, but the framing and the leo shit and josie's bullcrap is making it rough to get through.

Just skip ahead to the last three episodes. The last episode is genius.

#22 Edited by pyromagnestir (4324 posts) -

@theht:

Heh. That's exactly the episode that I stopped watching about halfway through and didn't finish until half a year later, back when I was watching the show a couple years ago. Also I think that's the episode the ratings bottomed out and they decided to pull the plug on the series. So yeah. It's pretty bad.

The final 4ish episodes do get interesting though. Just fast forward past the bullshit you don't like and watch only the Cooper scenes, is what I would recommend doing until then.

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#23 Posted by Nightriff (5096 posts) -

Agreed, the middle portion of Season 2 is pretty brutal with James and all that useless bullshit but once that is over with the end episodes are fantastic. I don't agree with the assumption that Season 2 is bad and no one should watch it, but it does have its rough patches.

#24 Edited by TheHT (11362 posts) -

@theht:

Heh. That's exactly the episode that I stopped watching about halfway through and didn't finish until half a year later, back when I was watching the show a couple years ago. Also I think that's the episode the ratings bottomed out and they decided to pull the plug on the series. So yeah. It's pretty bad.

The final 4ish episodes do get interesting though. Just fast forward past the bullshit you don't like and watch only the Cooper scenes, is what I would recommend doing until then.

i just finished episode 16 and my hope is restored. the drawer handle Coop. THE DRAWER HANDLE.

admittedly i got some enjoyment over brown tooth lady convulsing on the ground and truman's fist smack and "LET IT GOOOOO". there's only a few episodes left before the ones you and JasonR86 say get good, so i'll stick with it and keep playing solitaire during the shitty segments.

#25 Posted by TheHT (11362 posts) -

hey gang, that ending sure is a real hoot.

#26 Posted by JasonR86 (9714 posts) -

@theht said:

hey gang, that ending sure is a real hoot.

It's awesome isn't it? The whole episode is fantastic.