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Posted by nohthink (1223 posts) -

Attention: I am not saying every giantbomb user belongs to this category. 
 
Two things that I have noticed about the Giantbomb users:
 
1) They hate gamespot and IGN
It makes sense mostly because they are Giantbomb lovers but sometimes I notice certain "hatreds" toward gamespot and IGN. Calling them corrupted or saying things like they are unreliable or even pointing people who use IGN as "bad people." I do not understand that. People... we are all mature people and they are people who want to see other reviews before they make their purchases. Also, please do not say "oh they are afraid of getting their ads pulled out by the company" without any sources. That is just a conspiracy theory. And I know people who read this is gonna say "oh but it's true you dumbass! They did get paid for the review!" Dude... whatever. If you don't like other websites, that's fine. Keep it to yourself. Don't point other people and call them ignorant.  Also, they hate gamespot because....
 
2) They LOVE Jeff Gerstmann
Like.... really.... It looks Giantbomb is a Jeff Gerstmann cult or something. I've seen things like "I'm not gonna play anything that Jeff says it's bad" or "It must be terrible because Jeff says so" or, and this is my favorite, "It's right because Jeff says so." People.... Giantbomb does not equal Jeff. Ok? It is a cooperate efforts by Jeff, Vinny, Brad, Drew, Ryan, Dave, Sean and other Whiskey Media people that we do not know because they are working on the back, behind the curtain. Also, just because Jeff does not like one game, that does not automatically mean it's a bad game. Now, I'm not questioning his professionalism as a game journalist. He is a great reviewer and I think things he says are very legitimate. But that does not mean I uphold every single word he says. Do you really love everybody movie that critics said they were great movies? You probably don't. Game is the same thing.  I don't care how many stars Jeff gives it to Call of Duty. I don't like it. I think the story is juvenile like a young kid's little scribble notes who has fantasies about being in American army and it has nothing going on other than multiplayer. It might as well release the damn game without a single player campaign as far as I concern. Learn to have your opinions people! And please, give some credits to other Giantbomb crews too. 
 
Oh people are gonna hate me so much....
 

#1 Posted by nohthink (1223 posts) -

Attention: I am not saying every giantbomb user belongs to this category. 
 
Two things that I have noticed about the Giantbomb users:
 
1) They hate gamespot and IGN
It makes sense mostly because they are Giantbomb lovers but sometimes I notice certain "hatreds" toward gamespot and IGN. Calling them corrupted or saying things like they are unreliable or even pointing people who use IGN as "bad people." I do not understand that. People... we are all mature people and they are people who want to see other reviews before they make their purchases. Also, please do not say "oh they are afraid of getting their ads pulled out by the company" without any sources. That is just a conspiracy theory. And I know people who read this is gonna say "oh but it's true you dumbass! They did get paid for the review!" Dude... whatever. If you don't like other websites, that's fine. Keep it to yourself. Don't point other people and call them ignorant.  Also, they hate gamespot because....
 
2) They LOVE Jeff Gerstmann
Like.... really.... It looks Giantbomb is a Jeff Gerstmann cult or something. I've seen things like "I'm not gonna play anything that Jeff says it's bad" or "It must be terrible because Jeff says so" or, and this is my favorite, "It's right because Jeff says so." People.... Giantbomb does not equal Jeff. Ok? It is a cooperate efforts by Jeff, Vinny, Brad, Drew, Ryan, Dave, Sean and other Whiskey Media people that we do not know because they are working on the back, behind the curtain. Also, just because Jeff does not like one game, that does not automatically mean it's a bad game. Now, I'm not questioning his professionalism as a game journalist. He is a great reviewer and I think things he says are very legitimate. But that does not mean I uphold every single word he says. Do you really love everybody movie that critics said they were great movies? You probably don't. Game is the same thing.  I don't care how many stars Jeff gives it to Call of Duty. I don't like it. I think the story is juvenile like a young kid's little scribble notes who has fantasies about being in American army and it has nothing going on other than multiplayer. It might as well release the damn game without a single player campaign as far as I concern. Learn to have your opinions people! And please, give some credits to other Giantbomb crews too. 
 
Oh people are gonna hate me so much....
 

#2 Posted by Yummylee (21554 posts) -

...really? I've never encountered those kind of comments. Maybe the occasional hate thread for IGN/Gamespot but that's usually off a new user who you never see again after that. 
 
It's all there, sure. The drone like admiring of Jeff and the hatred for IGN/Gamespot, but you're exaggerating it all to silly proportions.

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#3 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

Yeah, don't point other people and call them ignorant!

#4 Posted by Pangina (12 posts) -

I don't exactly hate IGN/Gamespot and I think Jeff's reviews are flaming diarrhea,however I still love him for making this site happen.

#5 Posted by Tireyo (6412 posts) -

Weird of you to point all of that out.

#6 Edited by FancySoapsMan (5820 posts) -

Yup, I've noticed it too.

#7 Posted by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -

HEY YO, If you don't like Jeff you can get out. Jeff is the single greatest thing to happen to the game industry and his word is absolute,
GB and the other guys would be nothing without him, like the guy with beard...what was his name again?

#8 Edited by Zimbo (875 posts) -

From what I have seen the majority of the users do appreciate everyone who works on the site and most people seem to enjoy seeing the other Whiskey Media people on TNT/Happy Hour and quick looks so saying the majority of people are only here for Jeff is a bit wrong.
 
The gamespot bashing is a bit common sure. But then without the whole fiasco with Jeff and Gamespot, Giant Bomb would never have actually been created so I have no problem with them!

#9 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Most people on this site love the staff way too much, to the point of never disagreeing with them and getting angry when people do.

#10 Edited by Toms115 (2316 posts) -
@nohthink: jeff's a cool guy but i don't usually like his reviews, and i visit gamespot on somewhat regular basis. i guess i'm not in the majority.
#11 Posted by 02sfraser (847 posts) -

I don't hate gamespot, I just find their news late and their reviews terribly written. I like IGN but sometimes they just write rubbish to fill a gap they have in the week. As for Jeff Gerstmann I just love how made this website.

#12 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -

Yep, seen the same.

#13 Posted by Buscemi (1106 posts) -

 Jeff's a groovy guy. Stay groovy guys!

#14 Posted by kishan6 (1914 posts) -
@nohthink: i migrated from gamespot a couple years ago and honestly i think that a good amount of the people on here still like to talk about lots of the good things GS had going for it.  and i havent really encountered a inordinate amount of IGN haters... just the usual riff raff 
 
And yeah most of the people on GB are riding Jeffs dick hardcore
#15 Edited by Underachiever007 (2468 posts) -

The entire crew also receives a LOT of love. Almost too much, sometimes.

#16 Posted by DeShawn2ks (1052 posts) -
@nohthink:  I don't know if this is all true man. I don't have a problem with IGN at all. I actually listen to a lot of there podcast. As for the Jeff thing lets just say I am currently play DC Universe Online and loving it and we all know how he feels about that game. Not to say there aren't probably community members like that but I don't think it is the majority. If anything the GB community to me seems more laid back than most sites.
#17 Posted by Dalai (7019 posts) -

To be fair, I don't really hate Gamespot or IGN since I occasionally check out those sites. They're okay, but I prefer the more laid back approach to Giant Bomb. 
 
And while I do think Jeff is an entertaining fellow, our tastes in gaming differ greatly. I can like the guy and disagree with him at the same time.

#18 Posted by KarlPilkington (2723 posts) -

Get an avatar.

#19 Posted by Zippedbinders (986 posts) -

I think of all the game sites out there, this one and Destructoid are probably the least ass kissing to the editors/content providers. Sure, we all enjoy the content they provide, but none of them are pushed to onto a pedestal, even Jeff. We're all pretty quick to ask questions and call out bullshit, but we also understand their opinions and (usually) respect them. 
 
As for "hating" Gamespot or IGN, I can understand disliking CNET for putting Jeff and co. through the fiasco a few years back, but I don't think there's any kind of vocal majority saying Gamespot is a bad site, they have pros and cons just like everyone else, VanOrd seems to be pulling most of the weight in my opinion. I'm not IGNs biggest fan, but I wouldn't say I hate them. That said, I'd recommend Giant Bomb over any other game site out there.

#20 Posted by Sweep (8845 posts) -

I think a lot of your statements here seem very misinformed. Every member of Staff working for whiskey get's all sorts of love from Giantbomb users. It's not surprising that people will have favourites and it's understandable that people like Jeff because, let's face it, he's a cool guy. He's down to earth and he doesn't put up with a lot of the shit that gets thrown around with sites like IGN and Gamespot. The giantbomb staff won't spam Top Ten lists every day and they won't post rumours and speculation and try to fob it off as news. They are honest about everything they do - that's the reason why Giantbomb exists. It's pretty unique amongst videogame websites and people who share that mentality respect him for that.  
 
Just because two people share the same opinion doesn't mean one of them is a mindless drone.

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#21 Edited by Evilsbane (4595 posts) -
@nohthink: 
 
If you don't understand why people here dislike gamespot than you misunderstand the very reason we like Jeff so much, IGN and Gamespot stand for the very things Jeff Opposes so yea Cult of Jeff ftw.
#22 Edited by DeeGee (2122 posts) -

Something I noticed about people who complain about Giant Bomb users, if somebody doesn't like their game, then CLEARLY they have no actual opinion. "You didn't like the game I loved? WELL I GUESS YOU'LL AGREE WITH ANYTHING JEFF/BRAD/RYAN SAYS. Get your own thoughts!".  

God forbid that people actually agree with their thoughts on a game for their own personal reasons, right?

#23 Posted by Brendan (7779 posts) -

This is a classic case of someone blowing up a few specific cases into something way too general.  The only Gamespot/IGN hate you see around here are generally new users who just got banned from those sites for being idiots...they usually don't last long here either.  As far as Jeff Gerstmann love goes, there are a select group who are distinctly weird about it, but most comments are made in jest and aren't really serious.  

#24 Posted by Chris2KLee (2334 posts) -

FLAME ON!

#25 Posted by Bloodgraiv3 (2712 posts) -
@Axxol said:
"Yeah, don't point other people and call them ignorant! "

Except ign cuz its in thur name trolololol 
 
On topic, Yes ive noticed it too. They also don't much care for GT.
#26 Posted by Evilsbane (4595 posts) -
@Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Axxol said:
"Yeah, don't point other people and call them ignorant! "
Except ign cuz its in thur name trolololol 
Ahaha thats worth a Trolololol
#27 Posted by csl316 (8478 posts) -

I don't mind IGN, I just don't think it's as awesome as it once was.  A lot of the best staffers took off, and although I always thought Hilary Goldstein was entertaining on podcasts and such, once he took over editorial content the quality bar just dropped.  Jeremy Dunham never struck me as likeable, but when he was in charge I loved that site.

#28 Posted by wolf_blitzer85 (5254 posts) -

Gamestop? More like Lamestop. Amirite?

#29 Edited by rflx (576 posts) -

Well, I have no strong opinions about Gamespot or IGN. And I have no strong feelings about any of the Giant Bomb crew.
 
... Well, maybe Vinny. <3
 
Does that mean I'm not a true Giant Bomb user?

#30 Posted by FiestaUnicorn (1577 posts) -
#31 Posted by Aronman789 (2676 posts) -

I've never gone to IGN, and Gamespot I didn't like their videos. 
Also I just think some of Jeff's jokes are funny, but he's not the best dude in GB, that is Vinny.

#32 Posted by BaneFireLord (2928 posts) -

I personally am quite fond of GameSpot. But then, I started using their site over a year after Gerstmangate.

#33 Posted by X19 (2306 posts) -

I would still be listening to the Hotspot if Tom Mc Shea  didn't appear every week. Hearing him speak over/ talk shit to Kevin VanOrd and the rest of the GS crew just pushed me away from the site for good. 
 
I use Destructoid and GiantBomb as that seems to give me all the info and entertainment I need.

#34 Posted by danimal_furry (1453 posts) -

I think Jeff just makes himself more visable. I don't see him as a favorite. In fact, I like different people associated with this site for different reasons. Giant Bomb is set up where you can draw your own conclusions based on whose tastes represent your own. I listen to Vinny a bit more because I am not in love with online multiplayer. I listen to Ryan, because he understands good Wii games. I listen to Brad, because he likes some great classic games. Jeff is and endless source of gaming knowledge. Dave likes less mainstream games. There are a lot of options. As for the guys behind the scenes, everyone likes those people.

#35 Posted by august (3836 posts) -
@nohthink: You forgot how good we smell. We smell amazing.
#36 Edited by Tsoglani (585 posts) -

I don't mind Gamespot, but I have noticed their extreme bias and rubbish increase over the years... but I wouldn't go as far to lump ALL GB users in 2 categories! 
 
As for IGN, I do not mind those guys at all.

#37 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

no shit

#38 Posted by DjCmeP (1148 posts) -

I don't hate IGN.

#39 Posted by jakob187 (21665 posts) -

I don't hate either of those sites.  I also don't LOVE Jeff Gerstmann.  I think he's a rad dood whose game reviews I trust.

#40 Posted by SneakyPenguins (242 posts) -

I like all the Whiskey cast, and IGN sucks a lot so people have a very good reason to hate them 

#41 Posted by FlyingRat (1446 posts) -

I can sort of see where you're coming from... I guess....? Even if you are blowing it way out of proportion.

#42 Posted by CornBREDX (5127 posts) -

I have noticed neither of these things as being a large majority on this site.
 
Ya, there is some 12 year olds that only hate on stuff because of certain things and love everything about what Jeff does, but that's a minority. 
 
Most here, that I have experienced, are fairly intelligent and are looking for honest reviews that seem in alignment with their game play views so they know if something is any good. They're also here because this site is entertaining. A lot of them use several sites besides giant bomb for reviews- some don't use Giant Bomb for reviews at all.
 
Anyway, it's great that your comments come off as uninformed- I don't have to take you seriously. 
 
BTW, I'm more of a fan of Ryan and Vinny. Jeff is a hilarious dude, and I love when he gets to joke around, but his game play views couldn't be more different then my own. When it comes to Brad it seems sometimes i agree with him, sometimes I don't. They're all cool dudes, but I dont take anyones opinion and make it my own. I make (or have) an informed opinion about most things I see or do in life based on research. They merely facilitate that for me.

#43 Edited by ez123 (1958 posts) -

 1.)No, maybe people think GB is much better than those sites, which is a valid opinion to have.
 
2.)Nah, Vinny's the slight favorite and a majority of members appreciate all four of the main crew, Drew, Dave, etc.    

#44 Posted by EpicSteve (6483 posts) -

It's fair to say that a large reason why most of us are here is the personalities of the staff. Jeff has a vast knowledge on videogames and can articulate his opinions well. Of course I'm going to listen to his opinions on subject I'm interested in. I can't speak for all users, but i have no beef with GameSpot and Ign as companies. I don't use GameSpot, there's no real reason behind that. Just that I can only devote my time to so many gaming sites. Ign is a fine site, i just wouldn't touch their message boards with a 5ft stick. 

#45 Posted by isles (232 posts) -

Surely this comes with the territory? I don't think it that strange that people agree with someone with such prominently displayed views and opinions and let's face it, funny people are easier to like. 

#46 Edited by MikeFightNight (1109 posts) -

You are wrong about the Jeff mancrush thing, I prefer Vinny myself. 
And as for hating other gaming websites, their is no room in my heart for hate, unless you do something to wrong me personally, then i'll kill you.  (The killing thing was a joke by they way..or was it?) MUHAHAHAHA...it was.

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#47 Posted by Detrian (1126 posts) -

Notice how I don't give a fuck about your observations. How about that.

#48 Posted by StarvingGamer (8157 posts) -

Jeff is more of a "hardcore" gamer than his cohorts which means I typically agree with his opinions more. But honestly, I hate GameSpot and IGN because their sites are kinda gross and the amount of crap you have to wade through to reach anything resembling quality content is not worth it to me personally.

#49 Posted by armaan8014 (5388 posts) -

no

#50 Edited by TMThomsen (2072 posts) -

I'm putting you in the "Likes IGN/Gamespot and is not particularly fond of Jeff Gerstmann"-category. 
 
You're just angry about the responses to the Killzone 3 review thread.

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