U.N: Seriously, What's the Point?

Every country spends money on this epic abomination. It serves no actual purpose, resolves no real issues, and is a rather blatant perversion of the diplomacy and even basic common sense (Arabia AND Iran on the committee in charge of women's rights?). It's a corrupt monolith that nobody I know of actually takes seriously.
 
Isn't it time we mark this whole thing down as a huge mistake and realize that these international groups just do not work? The UN has been about as effective as the League of Nations was in the 1920's, but people seem to hold on to the belief that this is a group we simply cannot live without.
 
Does any country find the group useful, outside of tinpot dictatorships?

I'm curious. What do you mean by "these international groups"? Is, say, WTO included in this group?

I have to admit, I got a bit of a kick out of the muslim nations removing Canada since we're the only nation to still be standing up for Isreal. 
 
The UN is a complete and utter joke, but it makes people feel good to see THE WORLD WORKING TOGETHER. Too bad it's corrupt and useless.

I will not be satisfied with international politics until someone/some nation finally achieves global domination. Until then, everything else is a waste of time.

" I'm curious. What do you mean by "these international groups"? Is, say, WTO included in this group? "

The ICAO is pretty useful. But I guess it's because it is relatively apolitical.

" Global dialog. "

" Global Politics: serious business "

While the UN is a utter useless political body; it is a good place for global dialogue. I can't really think of any organization that can replace that. 
 
League of Nations was useless because nobody enforced it and included certain nations.

Globalization sucks.

" @MarkWahlberg:   I'd say that you should come up here, but don't. We're comfortable enough.  "

The U.N helps keep world wars from happening. From WWII to now has been the most peaceful 60 years Europe has ever had.

" Global Politics: serious business "

"Globalization sucks. "

Ya, cultural victory is a waste of time.

The UN is a great idea, but the way it exists now makes it completely useless. Actually less than useless because it costs everyone money.
 
If only there was some way to get a group of people together to actually care about world issues without having such a Nationalistic bias. 
 
I think what we need is an alien assault on Earth. People within a nation always rally together to overcome a mutual enemy of the state, so if the Earth was in danger every race would have no choice but to rally together and put aside their differences for the good of the planet. If anyone has seen Gundam 00, I think that is basically what we need, though I have a feeling nobody is making GN drives near Jupiter right now... :(

I think the larger issue here is that because the united states and certain other groups (cough cough security council) want to use the U.N. in aspecific controlling manner, nothing can ever truly be accomplished. So long as the security council can throw down any action of a general assembly of nations then the whole U.N. gets viewed as a waste of time and ignored. 
Also regarding the belief that diplomacy doesn't work, I would completely disagree here. While there are notable failures of diplomacy there are also notable failures of every method of exerting international control. Basically I'd posit that diplomacy fails where most other attempts would also fail, but where diplomacy succeeds it's much more low impact than the other alternatives available so there's no reason to knock it as a practice.

" Global dialog. "

"If... deceit is fundamental to animal communication, then there must be strong selection to spot deception and this ought, in turn, to select for a degree of self-deception, rendering some facts and motives unconscious so as not to betray — by the subtle signs of self-knowledge — the deception being practiced."

-Robert Trivers

@bombastius: wait, how do you know all this? This info was suppose to be kept secret. Nevermind, maybe you hear the NWO theories.
 
Anyways, my opinion, globalisation, tryanny, new world order, one world dictatorship, they will be doing peace keeping for the shadow elite then around the world. FEMA will take care of the concentration camps later on, u.n is on a peace keeping role along side FEMA who under excutive order are allowed to override and dissolve congress. Alot of U.N's role is disarmament of the civilian population and their guns at that time so they won't have the ability to resist.
 
The cover story was, that they were our last hope for mankind or something. Yeah right.

" @RJMacReady:   No, it isn't but it's also a great instigator of human actions and it also can force parties to come together on policies where their ideals differ wildly. "

woah, I am shocked that an organization America constantly and consistently undermines has trouble functioning effectively.  The U.S. hasn't paid its dues in years, so I'm not sure what you even have to bitch about. 
 
also, lol evopsych. get this pseudoscience trash out of here 

" @SeriouslyNow said:

" @RJMacReady:   No, it isn't but it's also a great instigator of human actions and it also can force parties to come together on policies where their ideals differ wildly. "

The interests of the individuals are the catalysts for these actions, Speech is just the a tool which is often abused and used to deceive others about the interests of the individual advertising their putative intentions. "

Try living in a country that has been divided by war to find out just how important having a peace keeping force is.

" woah, I am shocked that an organization America constantly and consistently undermines has trouble functioning effectively.  The U.S. hasn't paid its dues in years, so I'm not sure what you even have to bitch about.  also, lol evopsych. get this pseudoscience trash out of here  "

" The UN is a great idea, but the way it exists now makes it completely useless. Actually less than useless because it costs everyone money.   If only there was some way to get a group of people together to actually care about world issues without having such a Nationalistic bias.   I think what we need is an alien assault on Earth. People within a nation always rally together to overcome a mutual enemy of the state, so if the Earth was in danger every race would have no choice but to rally together and put aside their differences for the good of the planet. If anyone has seen Gundam 00, I think that is basically what we need, though I have a feeling nobody is making GN drives near Jupiter right now... :( "

I always thought that the UN needed to be granted as a sovereign power unto itself and that member nations convert themselves into member states.

" @Xeiphyer said:

" The UN is a great idea, but the way it exists now makes it completely useless. Actually less than useless because it costs everyone money.   If only there was some way to get a group of people together to actually care about world issues without having such a Nationalistic bias.   I think what we need is an alien assault on Earth. People within a nation always rally together to overcome a mutual enemy of the state, so if the Earth was in danger every race would have no choice but to rally together and put aside their differences for the good of the planet. If anyone has seen Gundam 00, I think that is basically what we need, though I have a feeling nobody is making GN drives near Jupiter right now... :( "

Watchmen then? "

" @MisterChief said:

" @Xeiphyer said:

" The UN is a great idea, but the way it exists now makes it completely useless. Actually less than useless because it costs everyone money.   If only there was some way to get a group of people together to actually care about world issues without having such a Nationalistic bias.   I think what we need is an alien assault on Earth. People within a nation always rally together to overcome a mutual enemy of the state, so if the Earth was in danger every race would have no choice but to rally together and put aside their differences for the good of the planet. If anyone has seen Gundam 00, I think that is basically what we need, though I have a feeling nobody is making GN drives near Jupiter right now... :( "

Watchmen then? "

But who will watch the Watchmen? "

"Try living in a country that has been divided by war to find out just how important having a peace keeping force is. "

I think the problem with the UN is that it is existing in a limbo state. One the one hand it has a charter to protect people, on the other hand, it gives votes to countries like Sudan and Iran, who essentially exist only to harm people. Israel has already been raised, but it is a stellar example of the UN's hypocrisy, how a country that has a perhaps somewhat heavy handed approach to dealing with terrorists, is being derided as a rogue state and human rights abuser by countries with outstanding human rights abuses as bad as ethnic cleansing. The fact that Iran and North Korea have not been thrown out of the UN is a travesty.
 
The UN basically has to decide what it is, is it a force for good in the world? Some kind of proto-world Government? If so it needs to grow a spine. If it exists to simply a be a forum for international relations (which it has been quite effective in, organisations like the WHO have been very effective), then it needs to drop all the pretence that anything it says has any real world value.

Interesting documentary on the creation of the U.N. I can't believe illuminati center of foreign relations was responsible for it's creation. I didn't expect that. This details all the so called u.n peace keep missions which is nothing but disarmament of countries where they can't defend themselves. Even JFK published some memo or guidelines sumitted to the united nations and it govern's it's principles. I actually just watched this whole documentary with all the parts, even though for alot of ppl it's boring. It's enlightening at least about it's global government objective.

This thread is now about triangles.

That the UN is exceptionally corrupt is not really a debatable point. enough reportage of the Oil for Food scandal is out there, as are the myriad reports of "peacekeepers" basically forcing refugees to have sex with them for basic necessities. This isnt a "new world order" deal...this is a the UN is a waste of money thing. They dont disclose anything for even rudimentary oversight (that will have to change because Republicans are going to demand it or withhold all funding) and have solved no issues. 
 
is this a peaceful time for Europe? Given how much money the US poured into Europe since the end of WWII, I'd say the US is far more responsible for that than the UN. And much of Europe's "peace" is due to them ignoring glaring problems, which is their right. It will eventually bite them, but it is not my concern. 
 
And government, by default, is corruptible. Power corrupts.

The EU is on the verge of economic collapse and I doubt it survives.