Feeling political today...
Anyway, I have a question for you guys, was Barack Obama really chosen for his views on issues or was he, as this satire you've probably already heard (below), simply chosen by an idea that he was the "magic negro" (for those of you who don't understand this reference they're making, think movies with the black dude who comes and helps the other characters out). Was it his ideas or the false idea of him having all the solutions and that somehow if he were elected everything would "change" and become perfect?
What say you?
(here's the video)
Was Obama elected off of a make believe conception?
I do not believe that he was elected on a 'make believe conception'. He has promised many things, but it has only been a month since he was sworn in as president and there is much more time to see how things can turn out.
I also find that video you posted completely unrelated and pointless. Go back to listening to Rush Limbaugh
Br3adfan said:
"I do not believe that he was elected on a 'make believe conception'. He has promised many things, but it has only been a month since he was sworn in as president and there is much more time to see how things can turn out.
I also find that video you posted completely unrelated and pointless. Go back to listening to Rush Limbaugh
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Are you not familiar with that video?
It was a song making satire of the fact that he was essentially elected for being something of a conception rather than a politician of issues.
You saw all that "CHANGE!" things. What the hell did those mean? Change for what? Along that idea.
It's not racist at all for the record. It's referencing the term of that black guy who will show up and solve all the problems, somehow, in those movies. It's also poking stuff at Al Sharpton.
Time will tell....
"I do not believe that he was elected on a 'make believe conception'. He has promised many things, but it has only been a month since he was sworn in as president and there is much more time to see how things can turn out.I'm really talking about the vote.
I also find that video you posted completely unrelated and pointless. Go back to listening to Rush Limbaugh
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Did people vote for him because he had good ideas or because he was this false hope
Go back to listening to Rush Limbaugh
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I think he's more funny. I don't agree with him someof the time, but I also recognize some good points he makes.
Every leader is elected based on what people believe. There's no way any voter outside of a very small inner circle could really know anything at all about who they're voting for. Bush got in because people thought he was a cowboy and actually cared about his electorate. There's nothing really different in this case. It would be impossible for any leader to cure all of America's problem within even 2 terms, so some people do have unrealistic expectations.
I voted for him because I felt he had great appeal elsewhere in the world more than any other reason. We need close allies in everything we do and we need somebody who is willing to talk to everybody whether they share our views or not.
"No, he was chosen because he wasn't a Bush Republican. And take down that video, its stupidity offends me, and it has no reason to be in this thread.Well you can't just say it was McCain vs. Obama. Obama was elected when McCain was selected. I think mit romney was the best choice on the republican side.
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Not many people really like McCain on either side.
And if you really think the video is just stupidity, you are apparently not listening to it. It's encasing this whole topic and really the question that anyone with half of a brain might want to ask.
The movies? Really?
Well here's a nice popular one for you, Happy Gilmore. It's not the best example, but the one you'd recognize best.
Here's one from something you may not know but is exactly what i'm talking about: The Legend of Bagger Vance
I know that's Adam Sandler. But is that the one where he plays an idiot who's good at football, or the one where he plays golf to save someone from something, or the one where he's an idiot who's an idiot who has to get a tutor to pass grade school? I've never seen more than trailers for those, so ya lost me.
"Snipzor said:If Mitt Romney were the representative, the republicans still would have lost. It isn't an issue of personal politics, it is an issue of party trust and nobody trusts the republican party to lead again. Not after Bush. Plus a ton of people loved McCain, denial of that would be pointless (Also note that McCain was picked by republican voters, so don't subtly make an issue that he wasn't a real conservative)."No, he was chosen because he wasn't a Bush Republican. And take down that video, its stupidity offends me, and it has no reason to be in this thread.Well you can't just say it was McCain vs. Obama. Obama was elected when McCain was selected. I think mit romney was the best choice on the republican side.
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Not many people really like McCain on either side.
And if you really think the video is just stupidity, you are apparently not listening to it. It's encasing this whole topic and really the question that anyone with half of a brain might want to ask.
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And I've heard that song before, and really I never want to hear it again. Because if that is what passes off as "conservative satire", then no wonder the party should split up.
Most people I know don't even have a good general idea of politics in general. A lot of undecided voters with know intention of doing research into the candidates that were available just listened to what he said and went along with it. Personally I think almost all of his promises were false and we are headed for a really bad depression.
I've also asked a lot of people that voted for him about his policies and very few could actually tell me anything. So yeah I guess I do think that he was elected on false hope and it pains me to see it. In my opinion people should be mandated to take classes or do research on candidates and their policies before being able to vote.
"Most people I know don't even have a good general idea of politics in general. A lot of undecided voters with know intention of doing research into the candidates that were available just listened to what he said and went along with it. Personally I think almost all of his promises were false and we are headed for a really bad depression.Would this be true for both sides?
I've also asked a lot of people that voted for him about his policies and very few could actually tell me anything. So yeah I guess I do think that he was elected on false hope and it pains me to see it. In my opinion people should be mandated to take classes or do research on candidates and their policies before being able to vote."
"Most people I know don't even have a good general idea of politics in general. A lot of undecided voters with know intention of doing research into the candidates that were available just listened to what he said and went along with it. Personally I think almost all of his promises were false and we are headed for a really bad depression.
I've also asked a lot of people that voted for him about his policies and very few could actually tell me anything. So yeah I guess I do think that he was elected on false hope and it pains me to see it. In my opinion people should be mandated to take classes or do research on candidates and their policies before being able to vote."
"No, he was chosen because he wasn't a Bush Republican.This is true. I think people were willing to vote for anyone that had no resemblance to a Bush Republican. Too bad people don't see how amazingly similar they really are.
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"Most people I know don't even have a good general idea of politics in general. A lot of undecided voters with know intention of doing research into the candidates that were available just listened to what he said and went along with it. Personally I think almost all of his promises were false and we are headed for a really bad depression.That's the reason I hate democracy. I don't want idiots voting for policies that will greatly impact my life.
I've also asked a lot of people that voted for him about his policies and very few could actually tell me anything. So yeah I guess I do think that he was elected on false hope and it pains me to see it. In my opinion people should be mandated to take classes or do research on candidates and their policies before being able to vote."
Thankfully we live in a Republic, where idiots vote for people who greatly impact your life. The issues are abstracted, no one needs to understand them.
"Feeling political today...What I say?
Anyway, I have a question for you guys, was Barack Obama really chosen for his views on issues or was he, as this satire you've probably already heard (below), simply chosen by an idea that he was the "magic negro" (for those of you who don't understand this reference they're making, think movies with the black dude who comes and helps the other characters out). Was it his ideas or the false idea of him having all the solutions and that somehow if he were elected everything would "change" and become perfect?
What say you?
(here's the video)"
As someone who voted for Obama on his ideals and more importantly: two fucking years of hardcore campaigning on endless 24 hour news shows, debates, pundit debating, and speeches, I find this sheer concept is as stupid as it is offensive.
I voted for him because I thought he was the better candidate. The end.
Smug, your a nice guy, but this is hands down the dumbest topic you've yet posted.
"If you really think that Rush Limbaugh's brain could process that kind of thinking then you're delusional. The song is just racist, simple as that. Fuck Rush Limbaugh. Obama is president now. You lost. Get over it.Br3adfan said:
"I do not believe that he was elected on a 'make believe conception'. He has promised many things, but it has only been a month since he was sworn in as president and there is much more time to see how things can turn out.
I also find that video you posted completely unrelated and pointless. Go back to listening to Rush Limbaugh
"Are you not familiar with that video?
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It was a song making satire of the fact that he was essentially elected for being something of a conception rather than a politician of issues.
You saw all that "CHANGE!" things. What the hell did those mean? Change for what? Along that idea.
It's not racist at all for the record. It's referencing the term of that black guy who will show up and solve all the problems, somehow, in those movies. It's also poking stuff at Al Sharpton.
without reading the real post, im gonna just say... OF COURSE
"And if you really think the video is just stupidity, you are apparently not listening to it. It's encasing this whole topic and really the question that anyone with half of a brain might want to ask. "In that case this entire topic is shit, and no one else should make any attempt to reason with you. That was just plain stupid and annoying.
Hopefully he got voted in because more people registered to be able to vote.
If everyone knew that Obama supports infanticide, I'm sure he would have gotten a lot less votes.
"If everyone knew that Obama supports infanticide, I'm sure he would have gotten a lot less votes.Ooh, a Youtube video. The great source of knowledge, all true and all great. None of it is misleading.Now that's change we can believe in. Yes we can."
There hasn't been a day that has gone by where I haven't heard some butthurt republican scream "INFANTICIDE!" even though everything has already been explained and disproved. Perhaps if context was added, it would soothe your butthurt.
"xXRAWxHEATxX said:pfffft... Don't you know anything about politics?"If everyone knew that Obama supports infanticide, I'm sure he would have gotten a lot less votes.Ooh, a Youtube video. The great source of knowledge, all true and all great. None of it is misleading.Now that's change we can believe in. Yes we can."
There hasn't been a day that has gone by where I haven't heard some butthurt republican scream "INFANTICIDE!" even though everything has already been explained and disproved. Perhaps if context was added, it would soothe your butthurt.
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"xXRAWxHEATxX said:Interesting article. If you don't like youtube videos I can easily provide you context saying that he does support infanticide. Just google "Obama Supports Infanticide". You'll find a whole bunch of articles on it."If everyone knew that Obama supports infanticide, I'm sure he would have gotten a lot less votes.Ooh, a Youtube video. The great source of knowledge, all true and all great. None of it is misleading.Now that's change we can believe in. Yes we can."
There hasn't been a day that has gone by where I haven't heard some butthurt republican scream "INFANTICIDE!" even though everything has already been explained and disproved. Perhaps if context was added, it would soothe your butthurt.
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Snipzor gives factcheck.org, and you respond with a pro-life blogger?
"Snipzor gives factcheck.org, and you respond with a pro-life blogger?I not only responded with a pro-life blogger. I also responded by saying that googling "Obama Supports Infanticide" gives lots of context/articles on him supporting infanticide.There is so much wrong with what you just did, Raw.Whatever. I'm the fool here for thinking there wouldn't be some conspiracy theories sorrounding this president. Bush had the 2000 election and 9/11, Obama is going to have infantcide, being born in another country, and who knows what else."
"Snipzor gives factcheck.org, and you respond with a pro-life blogger?Conspiracy theories belong to every president for every fool to latch onto. I used to be one of those 9/11 trufers, god I was a fool. So I understand where they are going with this, but it's still wrong. This isn't Deus Ex, and there is no JC Denton to prove conspiracy theories true. But sadly some people think a link exists.There is so much wrong with what you just did, Raw.Whatever. I'm the fool here for thinking there wouldn't be some conspiracy theories sorrounding this president. Bush had the 2000 election and 9/11, Obama is going to have infantcide, being born in another country, and who knows what else."
What are you gonna do? People are weird in their mental state.
"In my opinion people should be mandated to take classes or do research on candidates and their policies before being able to vote."I think it would probably be more interesting to have candidates win, not based on who they are, but on their policies. Put a 50 question poll and based on people's "Agree", "Disagree", "No Strong Opinion" answers to policy questions the appropriate candidate would be elected.
As far as why Obama won this election, the media handed it to him on a silver platter. A vast majority of people will do what the TV tells them. The media flexed its muscles, grabbed the turtlewax, slapped a few coats on Obama, and the masses said, "Ooooo, shiny!" and bought one. A two-dollar crack-whore with no teeth could've been elected with that level of media manipulation. Not that I think it matters which asshole people think is running the country.
Sure, there were some people who actually read Obama's policies and agreed. But, I'd be shocked if they even counted for even a tenth of a percentage of the number of votes he received. Not that I think McCain had any greater of a percentage that looked at his policies. I am still baffled by how the worst candidates for each party received the nomination. Oligarchy manipulation for the win!
"The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. [T]he qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. Very very few people realize that the President and the Government have virtually no power at all."
"lukeissxc said:VaultBoy said:"In my opinion people should be mandated to take classes or do research on candidates and their policies before being able to vote."I think it would probably be more interesting to have candidates win, not based on who they are, but on their policies. Put a 50 question poll and based on people's "Agree", "Disagree", "No Strong Opinion" answers to policy questions the appropriate candidate would be elected."
"...Not that I think it matters which asshole people think is running the country."
"I not only responded with a pro-life blogger. I also responded by saying that googling "Obama Supports Infanticide" gives lots of context/articles on him supporting infanticide. "You're using Google search results as proof that he supports infanticide? I'm not going to sort through that shit. Provide a link to one of these sites that you think is reliable and not spouting bullshit. Otherwise you have nothing to support your claim.
He was chosen because people thought it would be cool to witness the first black president. Honestly, I'm not even joking. I wish I was.
That video is the opposite of funny, and typical of the radical right wing racist propaganda. This is such an old and obvious troll topic, I find it surprising that even Smug has dug this corpse out of the grave, well done smug, your trolling has paid off yet again
Was bush elected because of his views or because 98% of republicans vote republican and 98% of democrats vote democrat and the "undecided" are a bunch of fence straddling attention whores who do bullshit like become
single issue voters?
The GOP scared the country into voting for Bush W twice because of "Terror, alert levels, freedoms, mexicans, n00cueLER proliferations" What is so disgusting about this type of trolling is that this topic only comes up because
Obama is black. If John Kerry had won in 04 the same thing would not have been said. Most people that vote are idiots, most people in this country are idiots, the majority of the world's population are uneducated religious
right wing idiots.
But the Rush LImbaugh ditto heads see this as an attack opportunity, everyone voted for Obama because he is black! OH NOES!
Any politician who's only real "stimulation" seems to be in making the government an even bigger cluster fuck of a multi-headed Hydra monster than it already is can't be all bad, can he/she? They've always been able to straighten out all our problems in the past haven't they? Welfare, Social Security, Medicare, the CIA, now they want a part of the banking pie too?
If he can eliminate all the evil rich people, open markets, personal responsibility and freedom, then we can all live the dream of being equally miserable. I can't wait!
Obama was elected on his charisma and playing off the ludicrous guilty notion that America is now hated around the world, when America has been hated by someone around the world for as long as it's been in existence. We need to be building an enviroment where personal freedom can grow and all men are created equal. Not rich men and poor men, ALL men. Let them be free and make them live with their decisions in life. Teach a man to fish, don't take the fish away from the fisherman and then give it to a slug.
Man, Cool Cos didn't need no media son.
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