I'm a socialist, believe that we should have both private and government ran bizness's, I raugher spend money helping our people instead of Iraq and unlike most liberals, I believe we should use our resources though planning a responsibility, use them but not to the point of abuse, I also believe we should take the IRS away and just pay a fair tax meaning a sale taxes of 25 cents per dollar and 5% should go to univerisal heathcare and another 5% to Social Security and the rest for whatever, I dont like the republicans or the democrats, theres only lil difference between them
What would u consider u r politically?
"Fair tax is incredibly stupid. It exponentially punishes the lower-income citizens. I'm fine with you having your beliefs, and share some of them, but do you actually *know* what you're talking about, instead of just saying what you think based on what you've heard?"im poor, Im 21 and make only $19,000, I live in freaking Idaho one of the poorest states
"Jayge said:And you honestly think it's feasible for anybody (especially those supporting a family) to bear the brunt of a "fair tax"?"Fair tax is incredibly stupid. It exponentially punishes the lower-income citizens. I'm fine with you having your beliefs, and share some of them, but do you actually *know* what you're talking about, instead of just saying what you think based on what you've heard?"im poor, Im 21 and make only $19,000, I live in freaking Idaho one of the poorest states"
"Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"I have a full time job, and 21, I have no clue who that is, I love FDR
"What's the political word for not caring? I don't vote and never will because I don't think it matters who the President is, the government will do what they want, whenever they want, in my opinion.I think scientist call them, Giganist Dumbassist
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"thanatos990 said:I know :)"I think scientist call them, Giganist Dumbassist"Nice to know that you respect other people's opinion."
"Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"Not everyone who fits those stereotypes is a fake socialist who is going to drop it as soon as they get a job. I consider myself a socialist, and I fit all those stereotypes (although the Che Guevara shirt was a gift and I've only worn it a couple of times), yet I genuinely believe in socialism and come from a family that also supports it. I've learned about socialism from my grandfather and uncle who have both been supporters of it all their lives. I'm not just jumping on the bandwagon to be trendy, I've been taught about it and I genuinely support it.
Middle-Left wing, which would be relatively far left in the US. Germany is a social democracy, which I am extremely happy with. As far as I understand it, it is the one thing many democrats dream of and most republicans claim to be impossible. I consider the heads of our state and their ways of thinking as too conservative, but they too would count as "liberal" from an american point of view - If I lived in the US, I would be a registered and active democrat.
I also despise Hippies and do-gooders.
I'm a Libertarian which just happens to be the opposite of a socialist.
Smaller Government, Lower Taxes, More Freedom
Simple.
"Middle-Left wing, which would be relatively far left in the US. Germany is a social democracy, which I am extremely happy with. As far as I understand it, it is the one thing many democrats dream of and most republicans claim to be impossible. I consider the heads of our state and their ways of thinking as too conservative, but they too would count as "liberal" from an american point of view - If I lived in the US, I would be a registered and active democrat.This, though I do live in the U.S., I am registered as a democrat, and I agree with a lot of socialist policies (not all, a number of them, however).
I also despise Hippies and do-gooders."
"brukaoru said:How I feel about the government is an opinion which leads me to not vote. Who says I can't complain just because I don't vote? That logic doesn't make much sense. If someone votes for someone and they turn out to be a crap president, they don't have the right to complain because they voted for them. I have the right to complain all I want because I didn't vote. I don't need to vote to back up my opinion that the government will do what they want, no matter who the president is."What's the political word for not caring? I don't vote and never will because I don't think it matters who the President is, the government will do what they want, whenever they want, in my opinion.Not voting isn't an opinion. It's just not smart. If you don't vote then you can't complain when it's bad, like now."
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"HartKnight said:brukaoru, I believe the word is "apathetic.""brukaoru said:How I feel about the government is an opinion which leads me to not vote. Who says I can't complain just because I don't vote? That logic doesn't make much sense. If someone votes for someone and they turn out to be a crap president, they don't have the right to complain because they voted for them. I have the right to complain all I want because I didn't vote. I don't need to vote to back up my opinion that the government will do what they want, no matter who the president is.""What's the political word for not caring? I don't vote and never will because I don't think it matters who the President is, the government will do what they want, whenever they want, in my opinion.Not voting isn't an opinion. It's just not smart. If you don't vote then you can't complain when it's bad, like now."
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"brukaoru said:But what if you end up voting for the one who totally fucks up the country? No one wants to be responsible for that."What's the political word for not caring? I don't vote and never will because I don't think it matters who the President is, the government will do what they want, whenever they want, in my opinion.Not voting isn't an opinion. It's just not smart. If you don't vote then you can't complain when it's bad, like now."
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"Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"
True. The best thing is... they bought the shirt...
"MB said:You dont know who Che is? ..."Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"I have a full time job, and 21, I have no clue who that is, I love FDR"
I would consider myself a liberalist, in some way...
"thanatos990 said:"MB said:You dont know who Che is? ...""Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"I have a full time job, and 21, I have no clue who that is, I love FDR"
why should you get punished for making more money? US is a country where everyone is equal, if someone cant make enough money after taxes to support themselves, they dont get breaks. FLAT TAX FTW
"why should you get punished for making more money?"Why should you get punished for making less?
I'm so happy that you're initial post was poorly written.
"Conservatist I think there should be low taxes and the government should just stay out of everyones life since thats the only way everyone can be treated equally."Conservatist? Is that some sort of off-shoot of a conservationist?
How's Teddy Roosevelt doin'?
Marxist-Leninist.
And for the record, I've never owned a Che Guevara shirt. I do have a Marx/Engels '08 one around here, as well as a Lenin one somewhere. But they were both made for me by a friend.
"Flustercuck said:"why should you get punished for making more money?"Why should you get punished for making less?"
Here is an example: Lets say you lose 20% of income to taxes. Now, if everyone loses 20%, then it is fair. Your math is incorrect in saying that someone who has to contribute 15% is equal to someone who has to contribute the full 20%.
"What's the political word for not caring? I don't vote and never will because I don't think it matters who the President is, the government will do what they want, whenever they want, in my opinion.I agree completely. You can vote, but at the end, the government is gonna do what they want, whatever they want. And you have no say.
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"Sir_Ragnarok said:it is equal when the person contributing 15% is making less. The rich have more than enough money, im sure they can do without another lexus for a year."Flustercuck said:"why should you get punished for making more money?"Why should you get punished for making less?"
Here is an example: Lets say you lose 20% of income to taxes. Now, if everyone loses 20%, then it is fair. Your math is incorrect in saying that someone who has to contribute 15% is equal to someone who has to contribute the full 20%."
"MB said:Exactly. One of my friends had one of the shirts. I said I assume your being ironic. Turns out he didn't even know who the guy was lol"Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"
True. The best thing is... they bought the shirt..."
"h8smikemoore said:Most of them have no idea who he is, or that he is honored in Cuba just about every day, despite that Fidel Castro spent the last years of Che's life trying to minimize his role in the governement bcause he did a terrible job."MB said:Exactly. One of my friends had one of the shirts. I said I assume your being ironic. Turns out he didn't even know who the guy was lol""Most self-described "socialists" that I know are only in it for the Che Guevara shirts, are still going to college (most being under 21) and have never held a full-time job. Does that about sum it up?"
True. The best thing is... they bought the shirt..."
BoG said:and the prospects that Medicare, medicaid, and SS will take up 75% of the budget in a few decades.
Since several people said they are libertarians someone please explain this to me:
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