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#1 Posted by Aegon (5643 posts) -

What does ignorance mean?

#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

All I know is that I know nothing.

#3 Edited by Enigma777 (6073 posts) -

This thread is smart.

#4 Posted by Freshbandito (686 posts) -

Posting in this thread is for idiots.

#5 Posted by joshthebear (2700 posts) -

Wii U is an awesome name.

#6 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

It's like rain on your wedding day.

#7 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

All I know is that I know nothing.

#8 Posted by Jay444111 (2441 posts) -

Gentlemen! This is the War room! Stop fighting immediately!

#9 Posted by TheWholeDamnShow (232 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

It's like rain on your wedding day.

THAT IS NOT IRONIC! GEEEET OUUUUT!

#10 Posted by Animasta (14692 posts) -

I liked irony before it was cool

#11 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

@TheWholeDamnShow said:

@JasonR86 said:

It's like rain on your wedding day.

THAT IS NOT IRONIC! GEEEET OUUUUT!

That's not what Alanis Morissette says.

#12 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

Jay's a writter

#13 Posted by Aegon (5643 posts) -
@JasonR86 said:

@TheWholeDamnShow said:

@JasonR86 said:

It's like rain on your wedding day.

THAT IS NOT IRONIC! GEEEET OUUUUT!

That's not what Alanis Morissette says.

  
#14 Edited by TheWholeDamnShow (232 posts) -

@H2Oyea said:

@JasonR86 said:

@TheWholeDamnShow said:

@JasonR86 said:

It's like rain on your wedding day.

THAT IS NOT IRONIC! GEEEET OUUUUT!

That's not what Alanis Morissette says.

I'm pretty sure almost every single example in that song is not ironic. They suck... but still... not ironic.

EDIT: It's actually ironic that, that song is called ironic, yet nothing ironic about that song is in fact ironic. Holy shit.

#15 Posted by Levio (1784 posts) -

@TheWholeDamnShow said:

@H2Oyea said:

@JasonR86 said:

@TheWholeDamnShow said:

@JasonR86 said:

It's like rain on your wedding day.

THAT IS NOT IRONIC! GEEEET OUUUUT!

That's not what Alanis Morissette says.

I'm pretty sure almost every single example in that song is not ironic. They suck... but still... not ironic.

That's the irony numbnuts

#16 Posted by TheWholeDamnShow (232 posts) -

@Levio: Yeah, I already figured that out. On my own. Shhhhhhh....

#17 Posted by Nottle (1914 posts) -

I once owned a pen that said Viagra on it but it couldn't click out.

#18 Posted by N7 (3590 posts) -

There are only two things in this world that I can NOT stand: People who are intolerant of other people and their culture, and the Dutch.

#19 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4757 posts) -

American's have a good grasp on what irony is.

#20 Posted by ShaggE (6456 posts) -

Americans always generalize about other countries.

#21 Posted by Positrark (316 posts) -

@H2Oyea said:

What does ignorance mean?

You may want to look up ironic before you make a thread about it. Your example is more akin to an oxymoron than an ironic statement.

#22 Posted by Aegon (5643 posts) -
@Positrark said:

@H2Oyea said:

What does ignorance mean?

You may want to look up ironic before you make a thread about it. Your example is more akin to an oxymoron than an ironic statement.

You're wrong. 
#23 Posted by SSully (4192 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

It's like rain on your wedding day.

It's a free ride, when you are already paid

#24 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

If we all flew cars no one would need to walk because we wouldn't need the ground anymore.

#25 Posted by benpicko (2008 posts) -

@GunslingerPanda said:

American's have a good grasp on what irony is.

You have a good grasp of how apostrophes are used.

#26 Posted by smallmanoncampus (116 posts) -

@Enigma777 said:

This thread is smart.

Didn't you make a thread in which you said you drunk drove recently?

Yeah, I trust your opinion

#27 Edited by TheHT (11292 posts) -

Oedipus murdered his father, but didn't know it.

#28 Posted by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

I CANT DO ANYTHING WRITE!

#29 Posted by JackSukeru (5913 posts) -

@Animasta said:

I liked irony before it was cool

Becoming cool makes things that were cool suddenly not cool.

I'm no expert but I think that's pretty ironic.

#30 Posted by Positrark (316 posts) -

@H2Oyea said:

You're wrong.

Not really (great argument btw). The usual definition of irony implies that what's being said is opposite to its actual meaning, e.g. "Fantastic, a thunderstorm just as I was heading to the beach to get a tan". There's nothing inherently ironic about someone wondering about the meaning of ignorant. Its amusing because the person is highlighting the very word he's inquiring about, but that's not really irony, since the person saying it means exactly what he's saying.

#31 Posted by egg (1467 posts) -

@Positrark said:

@H2Oyea said:

You're wrong.

Not really (great argument btw). The usual definition of irony implies that what's being said is opposite to its actual meaning, e.g. "Fantastic, a thunderstorm just as I was heading to the beach to get a tan". There's nothing inherently ironic about someone wondering about the meaning of ignorant. Its amusing because the person is highlighting the very word he's inquiring about, but that's not really irony, since the person saying it means exactly what he's saying.

sounds like you described sarcasm

but hey I suppose irony means the same thing as sarcasm now or it does if you want it to

I don't make the rules I just observe other people change them on a whim

#32 Posted by Icicle7x3 (1181 posts) -

I think it would be ironic if we were all made of iron.

#33 Edited by MariachiMacabre (7096 posts) -

@GunslingerPanda

American's have a good grasp on what irony is.

You have a good grasp on proper grammar.

#34 Posted by crusader8463 (14422 posts) -

I love to suck off men in bathrooms at highway truck stops, but I'm totally straight and committed to my marriage.

#35 Posted by Tebbit (4465 posts) -

@crusader8463 said:

I love to suck off men in bathrooms at highway truck stops, but I'm totally straight and committed to my marriage.

*GASP*.

TruckLoveer69... IS THAT YOU?!

I THOUGHT WHAT WE HAD WAS SPECIAL YOU BASTARD.

#36 Posted by supamon (1333 posts) -

I was into hipsterism before it was cool.

#37 Posted by Enigma777 (6073 posts) -

@smallmanoncampus said:

@Enigma777 said:

This thread is smart.

Didn't you make a thread in which you said you drunk drove recently?

Yeah, I trust your opinion

No, that was a blog. Duh.

#38 Posted by SinGulaR (2312 posts) -

I spent 300€ on a cell phone I won next day at a contest. Anyone need a cell phone? ;)

#39 Posted by JordanK85 (140 posts) -

Irony seems to have two entirely different accepted definitions. Most definitions I find are more akin to what I think of as sarcasm and it seems like sarcasm is listed as a form of irony and in some cases as a synonym. This calls for more research! Wikipedia, ho!

#40 Posted by James_Giant_Peach (751 posts) -

I sold my hair to buy you a watch chain!

#41 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7617 posts) -

@Levio said:

That's the irony numbnuts

That's not what she said. Every single example she uses was supposed to be ironic, she argues that the "meaning of the word has changed". Which is pretty stupid, because you could use any word incorrectly and argue that. There's no hidden irony behind the fact every example she uses isn't ironic, thus making the song ironic itself.. She's just an idiot.

#42 Posted by JordanK85 (140 posts) -

Ok this cartoon explains the problem pretty well: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/irony

Tldr: People are referring to verbal irony, which is just sarcasm more or less, situational irony, which is when an olympic swimmer drowns in their bathtub, and dramatic irony, which is when characters in a story don't understand the significance of a situation that the audience does. So all the examples I've seen in this thread could be seen as forms of irony. NOTE: I justify the OP's example of "What does ignorance mean?" as dramatic irony by the implication that there is a speaker asking that question and that speaker counts as a character while we count as the audience. We understand that it's funny that someone would be ignorant of the what the word "ignorance" means while the "character" asking the question does not. All the other examples of irony posted so far are pretty self-explanatory. Of course this whole post is actually a waste because if experts in literature can't agree about what constitutes irony and what doesn't then random people on a forum probably shouldn't even bother.

#43 Posted by Still_I_Cry (2494 posts) -

@Cloudenvy said:

@Video_Game_King said:

All I know is that I know nothing.

Great show. No irony.

#44 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@Still_I_Cry:

Wasn't that the movie, though?

#45 Posted by Still_I_Cry (2494 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@Still_I_Cry:

Wasn't that the movie, though?

There was a movie?

#46 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@Still_I_Cry:

That's from The Meaning of Life, isn't it?

#47 Posted by Still_I_Cry (2494 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@Still_I_Cry:

That's from The Meaning of Life, isn't it?

Fawlty Towers I thought.

#48 Posted by habster3 (3595 posts) -

As for the people that keep arguing about what's ironic and what's not, there are several means for the word irony. Here are a few examples:

-Verbal irony: Saying something that clearly means the opposite of what's actually being said (similar to sarcasm) or possibly making a genuine statement that contradicts the nature of the speaker (the majority of posts in this thread focus on this type)

-Situational irony: The event or action that is most unexpected happens (kind of the idea Alanis Morissette was getting at, but she didn't do a very good job using it)

-Dramatic irony: A character, several characters, or all of the characters in a play, movie, etc. make mistakes out of their ignorance towards an important truth of which the audience is aware (Romeo and Juliet)

-From each of the above forms of irony come numerous other derivatives, including tragic irony, Socratic irony, cosmic irony, etc.

With my dictionary side out of my system, here's my own contribution to this thread: The word "homophobic" is gay (special thanks to Anal Cunt for such enlightening messages).

#49 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

@Still_I_Cry said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Still_I_Cry:

That's from The Meaning of Life, isn't it?

Fawlty Towers I thought.

Fawlty Towers is the correct answer, awesome series.

#50 Posted by Poppduder (460 posts) -

Dont be a dummy; nut on her tummy.