whats your oppinion on abortion

Okay lets take out all these bullshit extremes and just talk about both options.  None of these potential allowances, the stories which combined are  'Well what if the woman is raped by a mutant zombie who is actually her father and he happens to be into stem cell research and he tells her that her child will be disabled?". Just leave 'em out. Horrible incidents such as that obviously are grounds for abortion.

I'm talking about normal cases, cases that happen every year. A 21 year old has a drunken one night stand and becomes pregnant.  She has two choices, carry or terminate. Neither is wrong, just simply choices as either way she won't keep the child. Is it that hard to hold something for 9 months? Can she not just give it up to adoption and give it a chance at life? Or should she accept the over-population problem (As previous assholes have pointed out) and abort the fetus which may grow to be unloved by mother and unknown to father.  Maybe she is lives with her very conservative parents who will ostracize her for getting pregnant in the first place? None of us know the answer of what one woman would do. What makes me laugh is that more than half the people who have posted on this site will never have to make this choice due to the fact they are men. Men trying to dictate to women what is right and what is wrong. I even read some sadists saying there should be mandatory abortions. Are you kidding me? That isn't helping a woman out of a difficult situation, that is "helping" all women out of a situation you perceive to be difficult. Both sides have shown scant respect for one another and not a single mother or child has been helped. By being Pro-Life you are dictating to women who need to have abortions what is right and what is wrong - essentially telling them they are evil and placing a taboo on pregnancy which caused them to have an abortion in the first place. Most people who claim to be Pro-Choice are just as bad as the high and mighty Pro-Lifer. Dictating to women and forcing their opinions about solutions to over population. Why can't everyone just let a woman cross that horrible bridge when she comes to it? Meaningless pedantics and trivial points will not win anyone over and more than a few people have gotten into heated debates. This question has one answer. Let the woman decide.

"Snail said:

" It will exist. He/she will have a life, with or without a meaning, happy or not, one cannot tell, but he/she will have a life, and he/she deserves one like any other fetus."

It *could* exist. Something you still need to learn."

But Shazam, if we accept that, what can Snail and Jayge disagree about!?

"But Shazam, if we accept that, what can Snail and Jayge disagree about!?"

Hmmm, now this is a hard question....

"Okay lets take out all these bullshit extremes and just talk about both options.  None of these potential allowances, the stories which combined are  'Well what if the woman is raped by a mutant zombie who is actually her father and he happens to be into stem cell research and he tells her that her child will be disabled?". Just leave 'em out. Horrible incidents such as that obviously are grounds for abortion.

I'm talking about normal cases, cases that happen every year. A 21 year old has a drunken one night stand and becomes pregnant.  She has two choices, carry or terminate. Neither is wrong, just simply choices as either way she won't keep the child. Is it that hard to hold something for 9 months? Can she not just give it up to adoption and give it a chance at life? Or should she accept the over-population problem (As previous assholes have pointed out) and abort the fetus which may grow to be unloved by mother and unknown to father.  Maybe she is lives with her very conservative parents who will ostracize her for getting pregnant in the first place? None of us know the answer of what one woman would do. What makes me laugh is that more than half the people who have posted on this site will never have to make this choice due to the fact they are men. Men trying to dictate to women what is right and what is wrong. I even read some sadists saying there should be mandatory abortions. Are you kidding me? That isn't helping a woman out of a difficult situation, that is "helping" all women out of a situation you perceive to be difficult. Both sides have shown scant respect for one another and not a single mother or child has been helped. By being Pro-Life you are dictating to women who need to have abortions what is right and what is wrong - essentially telling them they are evil and placing a taboo on pregnancy which caused them to have an abortion in the first place. Most people who claim to be Pro-Choice are just as bad as the high and mighty Pro-Lifer. Dictating to women and forcing their opinions about solutions to over population. Why can't everyone just let a woman cross that horrible bridge when she comes to it? Meaningless pedantics and trivial points will not win anyone over and more than a few people have gotten into heated debates. This question has one answer. Let the woman decide."

For the record, I am for letting the woman decide. And if any of that "pro-choice people who think people should be forced to have abortions" crap is directed towards me, than I've either misrepresented myself or you (Shazam) have misinterpreted me. That's all. I'm gone.

" With so many ways to stop unwanted pregnancies no one needs to have an abortion, and if the woman is irresponsible enough (or gets raped) to get pregnant then she should give the child to adoption and give the child a chance in life.Letting women decide is not a responsible act."

It's good.
Why should you care when you don't have to answer your cause to someone rather than simple humans? When there ain't no a soul, why should we care about it tending to agree to kill your own child?

(Someone has filled me. yes it was Mr logic)
lol.

"Men trying to dictate to women what is right and what is wrong."

"Let the woman decide."

A fetus is as much of a human bieing as a seed is a flower.A SEED IS NOT A FLOWER DAMMIT.The mother can do whatever she wants with the fetus becouse its not a human bieing with (not many) rights.
Also dont put religion into this shit.

"Going into what you wrote, if society is going to hold the man financially responsible I think he has every right to dictate because it is going to affect him. If the women wants full choice over the the pregenancy, the man should free from any responsibility going forward. Right now the choice is given to one of the parents while the other can be made to comply with support of a decision he did not make. That's not right and is a contradiction to the fundamentals of Western society. "

Political topics on Giant Bomb, or elsewhere on the internets for that matter. GameFAQs, GameSpot, /b/, etc.
Always a good time.

"Snail said:

" With so many ways to stop unwanted pregnancies no one needs to have an abortion, and if the woman is irresponsible enough (or gets raped) to get pregnant then she should give the child to adoption and give the child a chance in life.Letting women decide is not a responsible act."

Says the person without a womb. I think that is all I need to say. "

Should be completely legel and completely safe.

"Congratulations. With this post you have proved nothing. I have numbers. Look at the number of abortions that are used like a contraceptive. There you go."

"With so many ways to stop unwanted pregnancies no one needs to have an abortion, and if the woman is irresponsible enough (or gets raped) to get pregnant then she should give the child to adoption and give the child a chance in life.Letting women decide is not a responsible act."

Shazam, have you ever been raped?

Nope. I'd be way angrier with people on this topic if I had been. Continue?

Well then how can you comment about people being reminded of the trauma, because if you haven't been raped how do you know?

I'm fine with it unless the baby can live outside the womb.

"Well then how can you comment about people being reminded of the trauma, because if you haven't been raped how do you know?

I know this is an irrational comment, and I agree with your points (I'm Pro-Choice, and I think that it's for the individual woman to decide). But this how dumb your comments about "Well how would you know,  you don't have a womb" seem.

"

And I have a girlfriend who has a womb. A few months ago she had to have an abortion, and it had an effect on me and her. (I have discussed this before) So why am I not allowed to voice any opinion on this?

"And I have a girlfriend who has a womb. A few months ago she had to have an abortion, and it had an effect on me and her. (I have discussed this before) So why am I not allowed to voice any opinion on this?"

Ah, I misunderstood. Sorry.

As long as it is not in the very last weeks or months, than yeah. I am pro choice.