When/Why Did It Become Cool To Be A Hipster?

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#101  Edited By Socialone

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

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#102  Edited By sockemjetpack

I was into this topic before it was posted. *adjusts black frame glasses*

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#103  Edited By xaLieNxGrEyx

@soulfulsoul said:

When Nickelback released a follow up album

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#104  Edited By Mr_Skeleton

I used to be a hipster before it became mainstream, now that's it's popular I am no longer a hipster.

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#105  Edited By YoThatLimp

@ThatFrood said:

Is there a more bruised and beaten punching bag than hipsters? I'm getting tired of hearing that word trotted out everywhere.

Emo? Honestly just another music fashion trend that will be dead in a few years.

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#106  Edited By MikkaQ

I genuinely believe stereotypes like that NEVER apply in real life, since people are too nuanced and complex to be boiled down like that. My life-long interests in film, photography, music, games and fashion are suddenly "hip" and now people have tried to label me as a fad-chasing hipster. They imply my love of bad films, vinyl and NES games are for ironic purposes which is plain insulting. I have genuine love for anything I'm into.

If you talk to enough "hipsters" you'll find that they are just normal people with normal lives who might wear horn-rimmed glasses.

At the end of the day, hipsters now are what grunge dudes were 20 years ago, a rejection of the mainstream. While I'm not closed-minded and stupid enough to avoid all mainstream media, it's true that a lot of it lacks merit or value to me. Whether that makes me a hipster or not seems irrelevant because I can only like what appeals to me.

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#107  Edited By LassieME

I was only a hipster before it was cool.

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#108  Edited By SirPsychoSexy

Live and let live

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#109  Edited By CrimsonNoir

It's funny how closed minded a lot of people sound when talking about hipsters just because people think they're snobs. It's like judging someone who's into punk for having spiked hair or a studded jacket. If someone is a pretentious snob, then don't hang around assholes like that, don't hate on people for liking certain things. To each their own.

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#110  Edited By nesagwa

I like that people sort of pretend that the word hipster is a recent invention and that it applies to one certain group of people. It's such an old (80 years old) generic term that's so over used that it's lost all meaning. A hipster is whatever you want it to be, but almost always used as a derogatory word for some group you don't like. Nobody can even agree on what one is.

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#111  Edited By JasonR86

@Socialone said:

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

Ughhh...God. All of these things you said irritate me. Not 'you'. I don't know if you irritate me or not. But all the 'socialist', 'environmentalists', 'politically aware', etc. Those are like nails on a chalk board to me.

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#112  Edited By Video_Game_King

@MikkaQ said:

They imply my love of bad films, vinyl and NES games are for ironic purposes which is plain insulting.

Isn't liking a bad film inherently ironic? Or are they insisting that you're ironically liking these things ironically?

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In my group of friends, hipsters and any other people we don't like are grouped under one umbrella term that I unfortunately can no longer use on this website.

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#114  Edited By Socialone

@JasonR86 said:

@Socialone said:

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

Ughhh...God. All of these things you said irritate me. Not 'you'. I don't know if you irritate me or not. But all the 'socialist', 'environmentalists', 'politically aware', etc. Those are like nails on a chalk board to me.

Mind if I ask you why? Is it solely because they possess such controversial views or because they can't talk about anything else and feel oh so superior about it? The latter is quite excusable, but the first hypothesis intrigues me.

I also realized my first post contained many grammatical error, my apologies.

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#115  Edited By jmfinamore

The big problem is their ironic facial hair and stupid hats. Outside of that, they're normally pretty nice, interesting people.

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#116  Edited By Chalian

you and i must have a different understanding of what is "cool".

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#117  Edited By Pop

After the all emo phase passed now we're in hipster territory. I hope steam punk is next.

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#118  Edited By trayntastic

wow i really like those broad strokes everyone is painting with in here.

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#119  Edited By Philantrophy

This thread is too mainstream for me.

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#120  Edited By Poppduder

June 8th 2004

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#121  Edited By MikkaQ

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ said:

They imply my love of bad films, vinyl and NES games are for ironic purposes which is plain insulting.

Isn't liking a bad film inherently ironic? Or are they insisting that you're ironically liking these things ironically?

Fuck, I don't know anymore, the term "irony" is so abused these days that it's lost most of it's meaning to me. But I find a certain charm and craftsmanship to otherwise bad low budget movies that I don't find in others, and I appreciate them in earnest.

I don't watch those movies so I can go to my friends and brag about my taste in unknown films, if anything it's a guilty pleasure that I don't bring up much.

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#122  Edited By ShaggE

The only thing that really bothers me about hipster culture is that they ruined square black frames for the rest of us. :P

Edit: And yeah, there are some perfectly likable hipsters out there. The stereotype isn't always accurate.

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Do Hipsters really exist?

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#124  Edited By Video_Game_King

@MikkaQ:

So you genuinely like these films ironically?.....What the fuck am I even saying anymore?

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#125  Edited By Chop

I'm fine with "hipsters". Despite how self righteous some are, they do tend to have pretty interesting taste in entertainment.

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#126  Edited By MikkaQ

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ:

So you genuinely like these films ironically?.....What the fuck am I even saying anymore?

I know right?!

Culture is a total clusterfuck right now and analyzing it is becoming increasingly futile.

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#127  Edited By Video_Game_King

@MikkaQ:

I'm still of my belief a few pages earlier that modern culture is entrenched in some bastardized cynicism. Or maybe it's just me perceiving things that aren't really there.

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#128  Edited By JasonR86

@Socialone said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Socialone said:

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

Ughhh...God. All of these things you said irritate me. Not 'you'. I don't know if you irritate me or not. But all the 'socialist', 'environmentalists', 'politically aware', etc. Those are like nails on a chalk board to me.

Mind if I ask you why? Is it solely because they possess such controversial views or because they can't talk about anything else and feel oh so superior about it? The latter is quite excusable, but the first hypothesis intrigues me.

I also realized my first post contained many grammatical error, my apologies.

I live in Washington state. We have a lot of people who define themselves as hipsters. I don't care if they do this. But the people here aren't content with just defining themselves and living their own lives (which I'm completely fine with). They feel it necessary to butt in on everyone else's life so that everyone is as "unique" as they are. And they all use the same verbiage you used in the post I initially responded to. So I guess I'm hypersensitive to that verbiage. I don't care if people live their lives how they want to. In fact, I'm happy for them. Just stay the fuck out of mine.

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#129  Edited By SeriouslyNow

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ:

I'm still of my belief a few pages earlier that modern culture is entrenched in some bastardized cynicism. Or maybe it's just me perceiving things that aren't really there.

It is. And it's drenched in large helpings of ignorance. So many hipsters don't even know what it is that they're mocking.

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#130  Edited By LaserLambert

isn't the joke about hipsters that they always say: "I was into _____ before it was cool" ? so doesn't that mean they are perpetually locked in a state of premature coolness?

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#132  Edited By Video_Game_King

Christ, guys, I just remembered: there were hipsters in the 1940s. You know what that means: there were people being hipsters before it was cool to be a hipster. Does that mean I've destroyed the hipster culture in an explosion of meta?

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#133  Edited By envane

cuz as i have learned , nobody likes a dirty hippie

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#134  Edited By Sin4profit

Bah, It's the "try hards" that are to be shunned and they exists in all social ideologies.

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#135  Edited By TheRamboFetus

Hipsters and bronies(or any mlp fan) are in the top 5 of who I hate list.

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#136  Edited By mikethekilla

Why did it become so cool to hate on Hipsters?

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#138  Edited By bybeach

@LaserLambert said:

isn't the joke about hipsters that they always say: "I was into _____ before it was cool" ? so doesn't that mean they are perpetually locked in a state of premature coolness?

Premature coolness.

I like that.

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#139  Edited By spartanlolz92

ive known hippsters but its not like they are forming the clique it just happens.

they wana be different but in the end they all become the same kinda funny actually

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#140  Edited By spartanlolz92

@Giantstalker said:

I find it very hard to associate with hipsters, but they've never caused me problems of any kind.

To be honest I barely know what a hipster even is, for how often the word gets thrown around these days. I suppose I don't even really care.

i think its along the lines of someone likeing something new or off beat because they think its cool to do not because they actually enjoy said thing

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#141  Edited By Brunchies

When was being a hipster cool, did I miss a memo or something.

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#142  Edited By ReyGitano

@Video_Game_King said:

Christ, guys, I just remembered: there were hipsters in the 1940s. You know what that means: there were people being hipsters before it was cool to be a hipster. Does that mean I've destroyed the hipster culture in an explosion of meta?

Hipsters from the 1940's and this new breed are fundamentally different. Why this new generation took on the name, who knows. Maybe they are unoriginal, or maybe they took the name for irony since the old Hipsters were ahead of their time.

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#143  Edited By BoG

Whenever I think about hipsterdom, I go back to this article. It makes me laugh a whole lot.

Story of my life, bro.

Seriously, though. I don't think being hostile towards any particular group will get us anywhere in this world. Different people have different tastes. They also have different concepts about what it means to be "cool." Many of the complaints I've read in this topic deal with hipsters being snobbish and condescending. Not all "hipsters" are this way, nor are these attributes exclusive to any one group. You're going to find dicks among all of society's "cliques." The nerdiest of nerds (you know, like all of us!) can posses these traits. Be careful when you generalize a group based on a few bad apples.

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#144  Edited By JazGalaxy

Here's the thing: there's no such hint as hipsters. What there is, is trends and people who follow them. Everyone lashing out at hipsters? Before that it was scene kids and before that it was emo kids, before that it was goth and before that it was grunge kids. It's just people trying to be cool and people hating people trying to be cool because by think it makes them cool. Same as always

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#145  Edited By Video_Game_King

@ReyGitano:

I like my idea of time-travelling ultra hipsters better.

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#146  Edited By BoG

@Video_Game_King: Meanwhile, in the future:

@Hipster_King said:

I lived on the moon before it was cool.

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#147  Edited By Video_Game_King

@BoG:

When exactly did it become cool to live on the Moon? I wasn't even aware that it was placed on that scale. Also, I imagine somebody's gonna go out and create that account for that explicit purpose.

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#148  Edited By BoG

@Video_Game_King said:

@BoG:

When exactly did it become cool to live on the Moon? I wasn't even aware that it was placed on that scale. Also, I imagine somebody's gonna go out and create that account for that explicit purpose.

It's from the future, when it will be cool to live on the moon.

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#149  Edited By Video_Game_King

@BoG:

Is this hipster talking to me? If so, he is nonsensical; if not, he is implying some sort of immigration to my Kingdom, and I doubt that will happen for quite some time. Star Ocean Law and such.

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#150  Edited By BoG

@Video_Game_King: It's the future.