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#101 Edited by Socialone (202 posts) -

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

#102 Posted by SockemJetpack (407 posts) -

I was into this topic before it was posted. *adjusts black frame glasses*

#103 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

@soulfulsoul said:

When Nickelback released a follow up album

#104 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5137 posts) -

I used to be a hipster before it became mainstream, now that's it's popular I am no longer a hipster.

#105 Posted by YoThatLimp (1880 posts) -

@ThatFrood said:

Is there a more bruised and beaten punching bag than hipsters? I'm getting tired of hearing that word trotted out everywhere.

Emo? Honestly just another music fashion trend that will be dead in a few years.

#106 Edited by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

I genuinely believe stereotypes like that NEVER apply in real life, since people are too nuanced and complex to be boiled down like that. My life-long interests in film, photography, music, games and fashion are suddenly "hip" and now people have tried to label me as a fad-chasing hipster. They imply my love of bad films, vinyl and NES games are for ironic purposes which is plain insulting. I have genuine love for anything I'm into.

If you talk to enough "hipsters" you'll find that they are just normal people with normal lives who might wear horn-rimmed glasses.

At the end of the day, hipsters now are what grunge dudes were 20 years ago, a rejection of the mainstream. While I'm not closed-minded and stupid enough to avoid all mainstream media, it's true that a lot of it lacks merit or value to me. Whether that makes me a hipster or not seems irrelevant because I can only like what appeals to me.

#107 Posted by LassieME (230 posts) -

I was only a hipster before it was cool.

#108 Posted by SirPsychoSexy (1327 posts) -

Live and let live

#109 Posted by CrimsonNoir (399 posts) -

It's funny how closed minded a lot of people sound when talking about hipsters just because people think they're snobs. It's like judging someone who's into punk for having spiked hair or a studded jacket. If someone is a pretentious snob, then don't hang around assholes like that, don't hate on people for liking certain things. To each their own.

#110 Posted by nesagwa (62 posts) -

I like that people sort of pretend that the word hipster is a recent invention and that it applies to one certain group of people. It's such an old (80 years old) generic term that's so over used that it's lost all meaning. A hipster is whatever you want it to be, but almost always used as a derogatory word for some group you don't like. Nobody can even agree on what one is.

#111 Posted by JasonR86 (9608 posts) -

@Socialone said:

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

Ughhh...God. All of these things you said irritate me. Not 'you'. I don't know if you irritate me or not. But all the 'socialist', 'environmentalists', 'politically aware', etc. Those are like nails on a chalk board to me.

#112 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

They imply my love of bad films, vinyl and NES games are for ironic purposes which is plain insulting.

Isn't liking a bad film inherently ironic? Or are they insisting that you're ironically liking these things ironically?

#113 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6287 posts) -

In my group of friends, hipsters and any other people we don't like are grouped under one umbrella term that I unfortunately can no longer use on this website.

#114 Posted by Socialone (202 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@Socialone said:

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

Ughhh...God. All of these things you said irritate me. Not 'you'. I don't know if you irritate me or not. But all the 'socialist', 'environmentalists', 'politically aware', etc. Those are like nails on a chalk board to me.

Mind if I ask you why? Is it solely because they possess such controversial views or because they can't talk about anything else and feel oh so superior about it? The latter is quite excusable, but the first hypothesis intrigues me.

I also realized my first post contained many grammatical error, my apologies.

#115 Posted by HarlequinRiot (1098 posts) -

The big problem is their ironic facial hair and stupid hats. Outside of that, they're normally pretty nice, interesting people.

#116 Posted by Chalian (216 posts) -

you and i must have a different understanding of what is "cool".

#117 Posted by Pop (2605 posts) -

After the all emo phase passed now we're in hipster territory. I hope steam punk is next.

#118 Posted by trayntastic (59 posts) -

wow i really like those broad strokes everyone is painting with in here.

#119 Posted by Philantrophy (354 posts) -

This thread is too mainstream for me.

#120 Posted by Poppduder (460 posts) -

June 8th 2004

#121 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ said:

They imply my love of bad films, vinyl and NES games are for ironic purposes which is plain insulting.

Isn't liking a bad film inherently ironic? Or are they insisting that you're ironically liking these things ironically?

Fuck, I don't know anymore, the term "irony" is so abused these days that it's lost most of it's meaning to me. But I find a certain charm and craftsmanship to otherwise bad low budget movies that I don't find in others, and I appreciate them in earnest.

I don't watch those movies so I can go to my friends and brag about my taste in unknown films, if anything it's a guilty pleasure that I don't bring up much.

#122 Edited by ShaggE (6327 posts) -

The only thing that really bothers me about hipster culture is that they ruined square black frames for the rest of us. :P

Edit: And yeah, there are some perfectly likable hipsters out there. The stereotype isn't always accurate.

#123 Posted by JonathanAshleyMoore (281 posts) -

Do Hipsters really exist?

#124 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

@MikkaQ:

So you genuinely like these films ironically?.....What the fuck am I even saying anymore?

#125 Edited by Chop (1994 posts) -

I'm fine with "hipsters". Despite how self righteous some are, they do tend to have pretty interesting taste in entertainment.

#126 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ:

So you genuinely like these films ironically?.....What the fuck am I even saying anymore?

I know right?!

Culture is a total clusterfuck right now and analyzing it is becoming increasingly futile.

#127 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

@MikkaQ:

I'm still of my belief a few pages earlier that modern culture is entrenched in some bastardized cynicism. Or maybe it's just me perceiving things that aren't really there.

#128 Posted by JasonR86 (9608 posts) -

@Socialone said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Socialone said:

@soulfulsoul said:

They wear ridiculous clothes just to look silly or unique, listen to music just because it is popular and new, and have horrific attitudes that are incredibly selfish

Real hipsters aren't selfish, it's quite the opposite as most of them are socialists and environmentalists. They are smart, politically aware people embracing the altermondialist movement. To me, this is more important than the artistic aspect of the trend, but that might be a local peculiarity (Montreal area, plenty hipsters around here). The goal is to be live in a more authentic manner, free more neo-liberal shit culture and conservative social norms. I'm a sociology major, therefore I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about (ha, not).

To answer your question, it became cool to be a hipster when ... I don't know, when the world realized intellectuals are much more interesting people than protein shake meatheads. That moment occurred when the hipster-dominated internet culture infiltrated pop culture I believe. That is a personal theory, but the result is the same nevertheless : people copy the general look and attitude, both sold in incredibly overpriced ''indie'' stores (Urban Outfitters, I'm looking at you). Problem is, you can't buy or imitate the deeper philosophy, which is wishing for a better world and not just despising the one we live in. There comes your bunch of idiotic sheepy posers.

Now if some of you were wondering, I have a lot of hipster friends, and while I think the dress code is ridiculous, I agree to their ideas. For the love of god, it's supposed to mock fashion, not to be fashionable.

Ughhh...God. All of these things you said irritate me. Not 'you'. I don't know if you irritate me or not. But all the 'socialist', 'environmentalists', 'politically aware', etc. Those are like nails on a chalk board to me.

Mind if I ask you why? Is it solely because they possess such controversial views or because they can't talk about anything else and feel oh so superior about it? The latter is quite excusable, but the first hypothesis intrigues me.

I also realized my first post contained many grammatical error, my apologies.

I live in Washington state. We have a lot of people who define themselves as hipsters. I don't care if they do this. But the people here aren't content with just defining themselves and living their own lives (which I'm completely fine with). They feel it necessary to butt in on everyone else's life so that everyone is as "unique" as they are. And they all use the same verbiage you used in the post I initially responded to. So I guess I'm hypersensitive to that verbiage. I don't care if people live their lives how they want to. In fact, I'm happy for them. Just stay the fuck out of mine.

#129 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ:

I'm still of my belief a few pages earlier that modern culture is entrenched in some bastardized cynicism. Or maybe it's just me perceiving things that aren't really there.

It is. And it's drenched in large helpings of ignorance. So many hipsters don't even know what it is that they're mocking.

#130 Posted by LaserLambert (167 posts) -

isn't the joke about hipsters that they always say: "I was into _____ before it was cool" ? so doesn't that mean they are perpetually locked in a state of premature coolness?

#132 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

Christ, guys, I just remembered: there were hipsters in the 1940s. You know what that means: there were people being hipsters before it was cool to be a hipster. Does that mean I've destroyed the hipster culture in an explosion of meta?

#133 Edited by envane (1159 posts) -

cuz as i have learned , nobody likes a dirty hippie

#134 Posted by Sin4profit (2907 posts) -

Bah, It's the "try hards" that are to be shunned and they exists in all social ideologies.

#135 Posted by TheRamboFetus (51 posts) -

Hipsters and bronies(or any mlp fan) are in the top 5 of who I hate list.

#136 Posted by mikethekilla (328 posts) -

Why did it become so cool to hate on Hipsters?

#137 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6386 posts) -

@wmaustin55 said:

i think a lot of people would classify me as a hipster. but im a generally nice guy and i'm actually enthusiastic and positive about most things in life. so i'm probably not what you mean, anyway

Same here. I'm curious though, do you consider yourself a hipster? I don't think I am, but most people I know call me a super fat hipster and just to accept it.

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#138 Posted by bybeach (4724 posts) -

@LaserLambert said:

isn't the joke about hipsters that they always say: "I was into _____ before it was cool" ? so doesn't that mean they are perpetually locked in a state of premature coolness?

Premature coolness.

I like that.

#139 Posted by spartanlolz92 (511 posts) -

ive known hippsters but its not like they are forming the clique it just happens.

they wana be different but in the end they all become the same kinda funny actually

#140 Posted by spartanlolz92 (511 posts) -

@Giantstalker said:

I find it very hard to associate with hipsters, but they've never caused me problems of any kind.

To be honest I barely know what a hipster even is, for how often the word gets thrown around these days. I suppose I don't even really care.

i think its along the lines of someone likeing something new or off beat because they think its cool to do not because they actually enjoy said thing

#141 Posted by Brunchies (2484 posts) -

When was being a hipster cool, did I miss a memo or something.

#142 Posted by ReyGitano (2467 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

Christ, guys, I just remembered: there were hipsters in the 1940s. You know what that means: there were people being hipsters before it was cool to be a hipster. Does that mean I've destroyed the hipster culture in an explosion of meta?

Hipsters from the 1940's and this new breed are fundamentally different. Why this new generation took on the name, who knows. Maybe they are unoriginal, or maybe they took the name for irony since the old Hipsters were ahead of their time.

#143 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -

Whenever I think about hipsterdom, I go back to this article. It makes me laugh a whole lot.

Story of my life, bro.

Seriously, though. I don't think being hostile towards any particular group will get us anywhere in this world. Different people have different tastes. They also have different concepts about what it means to be "cool." Many of the complaints I've read in this topic deal with hipsters being snobbish and condescending. Not all "hipsters" are this way, nor are these attributes exclusive to any one group. You're going to find dicks among all of society's "cliques." The nerdiest of nerds (you know, like all of us!) can posses these traits. Be careful when you generalize a group based on a few bad apples.

#144 Posted by JazGalaxy (1576 posts) -

Here's the thing: there's no such hint as hipsters. What there is, is trends and people who follow them. Everyone lashing out at hipsters? Before that it was scene kids and before that it was emo kids, before that it was goth and before that it was grunge kids. It's just people trying to be cool and people hating people trying to be cool because by think it makes them cool. Same as always

#145 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

@ReyGitano:

I like my idea of time-travelling ultra hipsters better.

#146 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: Meanwhile, in the future:

@Hipster_King said:

I lived on the moon before it was cool.

#147 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

@BoG:

When exactly did it become cool to live on the Moon? I wasn't even aware that it was placed on that scale. Also, I imagine somebody's gonna go out and create that account for that explicit purpose.

#148 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@BoG:

When exactly did it become cool to live on the Moon? I wasn't even aware that it was placed on that scale. Also, I imagine somebody's gonna go out and create that account for that explicit purpose.

It's from the future, when it will be cool to live on the moon.

#149 Posted by Video_Game_King (35989 posts) -

@BoG:

Is this hipster talking to me? If so, he is nonsensical; if not, he is implying some sort of immigration to my Kingdom, and I doubt that will happen for quite some time. Star Ocean Law and such.

#150 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: It's the future.