Interesting. I've seen close to this exact same poll on other forums, as these shows are pretty much cream of the crop in terms of popularity, and this is the first I've seen such low results for Evangelion.
I went for Bebop, but I would have voted for some others had they been there, like Lain or Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (though those could not be more different, aside from being weird)
I really don't understand all the hatred for Death Note in this thread, in my opinion it's absolutely brilliant. I will agree that it kind of falls apart after L dies. Though the ending is still good i think. But yeah, i voted Death Note. FullMetal would be my second. And the only other i've seen is Cowboy Bebop, so i don't really wanna call that my third, even though it's pretty good.
It gladdens my heart that 'evangelion' has so little votes.
AND cowboy Bebop is number one?
I must say, Giantbomb, I'm impressed.
As other have said, Code Geass is pretty kick ass.
This show is really weird. Its awful in every conceivable way, with its dumb characters, it manages to topple Death Note in sheer stupidity of convoluted plans and somehow it hits EVERY single manga/anime cliche along the road.
...Yet I couldn't stop watching it. I have no idea why, but I was thoroughly entertained the entire duration of that show and I soon found myself fist bumbing Zach whenever Lelouch pulled another ridiculously convoluted plan and contradicts his entire character AGAIN. I guess this is really one of those ''so awful, its awesome'' Anime's.
1. Full Metal Alchemist 2. Cowboy Bebop 3. Evangelion 4. Death Note
i have only seen the movie of ghost in the shell, and only the first episode of samurai champloo. Full metal alchemist is brilliant, i don't know why people are bad mouthing it, are you guys talking about the old series or the new one? since the new one is still going...
Death note was a bad series with an awesome, well written character in it. L was too good for that show, the writer must have stolen him from some other story lol. F
@FluxWaveZ: um, not really? he was just a guy who wanted to kill evil people, he was in some pseudo-denial that what he was doing was justice, but it didn't have any real depth in it other that what he said. I don't think he was a well written character but the way he interacted with L was great, as soon as L died it showed what a boring character light was.
At the start, before L came in, he was just annoying, he was a dick and i wanted him to just die. That's not bad writing in itself because the audience is emotionally involved and when L comes along we keep watching because we want L to outwit him, but as soon as L dies we're just left with a dick again, but this time the cool guy's dead and some guy we don't really care for saves the day instead... so anti climactic.
@cap123: I guess his initial motivation to rid the world of evil dudes wasn't deeply explored, but it became more and more interesting as his drunkenness with power was more and more evident; especially with his craziness in the last episode. I guess I liked it more because it was pretty much the first time I saw an anime (or any story, really) being explored by the perspective of the "bad guy".
It was also an interesting juxtaposition of personalities. I found it extremely interesting when he abandons his Death Note to accomplish his master plan and he reverts back to being the innocent guy of the beginning of the series, and when the plan wraps up and Kira gets "revived". It shows how much he's changed for the worse with the power he received, what he lost.
But all in all, I suppose a lot was left to be desired. I liked Near, but like Matt near the end, I didn't really understand them much except for both of them being from the same detective school as L and having their own, simple quirks. I do think the duality between L and Light was awesome, and I think one of the best parts of the series is when L finally fully realizes that Kira = L, in the rain and he realizes he's about to die. You could also feel, for the first time, sadness in Light for killing someone.
What exactly is that? Is it just another name for Full Metal Alchemist proper? Or is it some prequel or sequel ala Naruto Shipuuden or something? "
The manga and anime of FMA have two very different storylines. People who watched/read both generally agree that the manga was better.
FMA brotherhood takes the original manga storyline and animates it, if you have the time to watch it I say go for it. Though, I'm much more of manga guy seeing how one chapter takes so much shorter too read then a 20 minute episode.
Damn you TC! Hard as hell to choose between Cowboy Bebop and Ghost In The Shell. Both are great. Cowboy Bebop barely makes it above Ghost In The Shell though.
Took me a while to get on board with GitS, but when I did I found out it was a great show. It's a tad slow compared to others, but the story's really interesting. The action scenes are usually awesome when they happen, too.
@mutha3: I feel like that thread must be created. I mean, an "Anime vs Manga" one. I've heard that the manga iteration was better than the original a few times, so it's good to see that they made a new one following the series more closely. But, generally, I can't stand stills and "reading" when there's a colorful and active counter-part to it that is the anime. Especially when it's an action anime/manga. I couldn't imagine reading Cowboy Bebop (if the manga existed) and having the same experience as I had watching the show.
I love me some Evangelion and GITS but Cowboy Bebop is evergreen. That show was really really great and remains the only one I'll give to someone as evidence they just might like this stuff.
" @cap123: I guess his initial motivation to rid the world of evil dudes wasn't deeply explored, but it became more and more interesting as his drunkenness with power was more and more evident; especially with his craziness in the last episode. I guess I liked it more because it was pretty much the first time I saw an anime (or any story, really) being explored by the perspective of the "bad guy". It was also an interesting juxtaposition of personalities. I found it extremely interesting when he abandons his Death Note to accomplish his master plan and he reverts back to being the innocent guy of the beginning of the series, and when the plan wraps up and Kira gets "revived". It shows how much he's changed for the worse with the power he received, what he lost. But all in all, I suppose a lot was left to be desired. I liked Near, but like Matt near the end, I didn't really understand them much except for both of them being from the same detective school as L and having their own, simple quirks. I do think the duality between L and Light was awesome, and I think one of the best parts of the series is when L finally fully realizes that Kira = L, in the rain and he realizes he's about to die. You could also feel, for the first time, sadness in Light for killing someone. "
Now i've thought about, perhaps i mistook Light for being a bad character when he's more just a 'simple' one, although i agree he does change a bit towards the end when killing Light. As a simple character he worked well in contrast to L. It was not him that annoyed me so much, but silly writing decisions. So yeah i take that back.
For example that bit in the middle where he loses his memory, the whole thing with the business firm? it just seemed like filler! The story didn't move along, it couldn't move along, because there was no way for L to work out the truth, until Light's plan started up again. So it had that feeling of filler, where you know nothing matters, no revelations will take place as long as Light isn't Kira for the time being. It was just frustrating watching L go in completly the wrong direction, knowing full well that he was on the right track a second ago. The moment when the new kira starts talking to his shinigami in the car when everyone's watchin thought, THAT was a great moment it was like HERE WE GO AGAIN BOIIISSS.. but partly because it was like, finally, we can move on.
That was a bad decision, as well of of course L dying, and this new character coming along from this bording school that isn't even explained. He could have been a cool character, but only if he came in about 10 episdoes earlier, would it have been so hard to have a few mysterious cameos beforehand? rather than just springing him on us? could of had some remnants of a back story for L, while still keeping him mysterious.
Part of my negativity on it could have been down to the fact that i had just watched Code Geass though. The bad guy is the main character in that too, and it's done better in my opinion. They are both really intelligent school kids who are constantly trying to double cross people, and both have a weird power, there's quite a few connections but the difference is lelouch in code geass actually has a sense of morality. He is in denial for a while until it starts affecting people he knows, close friends of his die, and he goes through mental stages. Eventually he starts to numb to the deaths, which you think sends him insane and he goes to hitler level of evilness, only for a pretty cool revelation at the end to make you understand if just a little bit that he tried to make up for it.
ALSO full metal alchemist brotherhood is the real full metal alchemist, it is a million times better. The first one was manga for the first 20 episodes, then goes off on it's own made up story, Brotherhood is 100% manga and it shows. One of my favourite animes brotherhood, i thought the original was just OK.
" @mutha3: I feel like that thread must be created. I mean, an "Anime vs Manga" one. I've heard that the manga iteration was better than the original a few times, so it's good to see that they made a new one following the series more closely. But, generally, I can't stand stills and "reading" when there's a colorful and active counter-part to it that is the anime. Especially when it's an action anime/manga. I couldn't imagine reading Cowboy Bebop (if the manga existed) and having the same experience as I had watching the show. "
Agreed. I own various Manga but regret just about every one I've ever bought. Piracy aside, they cost $7-$10 a pop and I can burn through them in a single night most of the time. Actual anime on the other hand I feel better about buying since it has all that obvious stuff not in manga (music, voice acting, color, it moves). I'm not saying manga sucks or anything but I personally will always go for the anime version of a series when given the option.
" @mutha3: I feel like that thread must be created. I mean, an "Anime vs Manga" one. I've heard that the manga iteration was better than the original a few times, so it's good to see that they made a new one following the series more closely. But, generally, I can't stand stills and "reading" when there's a colorful and active counter-part to it that is the anime. Especially when it's an action anime/manga. I couldn't imagine reading Cowboy Bebop (if the manga existed) and having the same experience as I had watching the show. "
There are some obvious exceptions like Cowboy Bebop. That just isn't the same experience without the awesome jazzy soundtrack and (mostly) excellent animation.
But most of the time, I feel that anime takes the pacing of a manga and completely throws it into the wind. Something which takes a chapter in a manga gets converted to a full 20 minute episode instead of adjusting it appropriately, this is of course, because most anime is based on serialized work and they need to leave some time for the manga author to catch up. This brings me to my next point: goddamn filler no matter how good an anime may be, if it has filler it'll always be dumb stuff that feels wildly inferior to the regular storyline.
Besides, some authors like Oda(One Piece guy) really do some amazing artwork which only work in manga, speaking of One Piece, that show is so huge that I can't imagine anyone catching up to it through anime that's like 400 episodes(not sure on this)X 20/60= around 125 hours spent watching it!. Time is a huge issue for me as well. I don't get much of it weekly to spend on nerdy shit so I prefer my geek-out time to not be completely absorbed by one thing.
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