#1 Edited by TheGamerFix (201 posts) -
  1. http://www.dabs.ie/products/zoostorm-intel-core-i7-2600-8gb-500gb-dvdrw-win-7-pro-64-bit-7N4Y.html?refs=53900000   €688
  2. http://www.ebuyer.com/264501-zoostorm-premium-desktop-pc-7873-0261  €550
  3.  http://www.pcworld.ie/Product/ADVENT-DT1310-Desktop-PC/306536/307 €670
I'm looking to buy a new pc and I'm kinda stuck between these three they all have the same RAM 8gb, I don't really care about hard drive size cos I got plenty of external hard drives. The processor of no. 1 is the best and no. 3 has comparatively the worst i think it's clock speed is 2.9 GHz, but no. 3 is the only one with a decent graphics card, no. 1&2 just have some integrated intel thing. No. 2 is basically the same as no. 1 but with a slightly slower processor but it's a lot cheaper, so I put it to you humanity, well, at least the portion of it on Giant Bomb, which out of these three would be the best pc for gaming and just in general.  

EDIT :I'm probably gonna have to get a proper video card cos none of the ones here are any good, but just in terms of CPU, RAM and value do you think would be the best?
#2 Posted by TheWretched (5 posts) -

For gaming, an integrated GPU is NOT suited at all... go for a slower CPU and MUCH better GPU... though the third PC doesn't have a proper GPU either... but it's still quite a difference.

#4 Posted by matthias2437 (985 posts) -

Non would be really that great for a gaming pc, look at Cyberpowerpc.com or another website like that.

#5 Posted by krazy_kyle (715 posts) -

They all suck.  
 
This one is decent if you are on a very strict budget. http://www.amazon.co.uk/shinobee-Gaming-PC-1333-MEMSeven-DVD-Drive/dp/B0042EUNLQ/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1314658791&sr=1-7 
 
This one is great if you can afford it. http://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberPower-Desktop-Gaming-Water-Cooled-Dedicated/dp/B0055QXZVK/ref=sr_1_42?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1314658863&sr=1-42 
 
This one is great if you want something in the middle. http://www.amazon.co.uk/shinobee-HEXACORE-PC-1333-DirectX-DVD-Drive/dp/B00407QR56/ref=sr_1_58?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1314658935&sr=1-58 
 
I hope this helps but bear in mind, you need to install your own operating system on the Shinobee gaming systems as they come without. Good luck in your decision!
#6 Posted by Marz (5666 posts) -

build your own :(    If you can't then... #1 would be a good base and you could get a dedicated graphics card to put in it later.

#7 Posted by TheGamerFix (201 posts) -
@krazy_kyle: I aint too good with all this technical mumbo jumbo but if I get a new gpu for one of the three i linked would it not be as good as these pc's you've shown, like the most expensive one on your list has the same cpu and less ram than the 1st one in my list, is there anything ese other than the gpu which makes it better?
#8 Posted by krazy_kyle (715 posts) -
@TheGamerFix

On second thoughts, the first one you linked is pretty good, you need to buy a good graphics card on top of that which will cost around 200 euro or more. What kind of games withh you be playing??
#9 Posted by Droop (1916 posts) -

@TheGamerFix said:

@krazy_kyle: I aint too good with all this technical mumbo jumbo but if I get a new gpu for one of the three i linked would it not be as good as these pc's you've shown, like the most expensive one on your list has the same cpu and less ram than the 1st one in my list, is there anything ese other than the gpu which makes it better?

The GPU is the most important part of a gaming PC. 8GB ram is overkill. These days it's usually the video card that is the most expensive part of a gaming rig. The most expensive PC on krazy_kyle's list also has water cooling which is overkill as well if you don't plan on overclocking, which I asume you don't.

#10 Posted by TheGamerFix (201 posts) -

I dunno just anything, like the pc I have now can only play starcraft 2 on it's lowest settings, it has like 2gb of ram a dual core intel processr @2.13 GHz and a pretty crappy gpu so I can't really play anything that taxing on it like I want to play crysis and civ 5 but they just wouldn't run properly and they'd look terrible on it, so I just want something that can handle most pc games. The no. 2 desktop on my list is like more than a 100 euro cheaper than the no.1 option and it's cpu is only slightly slower i think it's around 3.1 GHz so do you think it would be better to spend the extra money to get a really good cpu or just take the money I'd save and put it towards a graphics card. I hope the lack of sanity implied by your name does not hinder you're judgement in this situation.

#11 Posted by krazy_kyle (715 posts) -
#12 Posted by TheGamerFix (201 posts) -
@krazy_kyle:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Multimedia-POWERSAVING-GF615M-P33-DVD-Writer-GigabitLAN/dp/B005HX9J9I/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1314659483&sr=8-7
 I just found this in the shinobee pc on amazon, it has a proper graphics card, although it's not particularily high end it's better than anything in the 3 pc's i posted, it has 8 GB RAM and a quad core 3.2 GHz processor and it's way cheaper than any of them, what do you think?
#13 Posted by AlexW00d (6389 posts) -

@TheGamerFix: If you tell us the top end of your budget we'll find you the best Pc for the money. How much are you willing to spend dude?

#14 Posted by TheGamerFix (201 posts) -
@AlexW00d: Ideally it would be in the 500-600 range, Ijust found a shinobee pc on amazon that has pretty much all the specs i want, like a processor over 3 GHz, 8GB of RAM, and a decent graphics card, its not top of the range or anything but it's an ok card, it's like 400 euro without import duty so I dunno how much that'll be but it doesn't come with an OS so I'd have to buy windows 7 for around €100. 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Multimedia-POWERSAVING-GF615M-P33-DVD-Writer-GigabitLAN/dp/B005HX9J9I/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1314659483&sr=8-7
so like I'm looking for something with roughly those specs and for ideally less than 600 euro, if you know of anything in that range it'd be great to hear about it, thanks man :)