Why education and college is a scam!

The true purpose of education, college, and the middle class in America

The first thing they do is put you in public school to keep you under control, discipline and surveillance, so that you can be conditioned to be a future good worker for the needs of the empire, all in the name of "education". Education my a**. 99 percent of what they teach you in this "education" are things you don't ever need to know and will NEVER use, either in real life or in any jobs or professions. They know that, but they NEVER tell you that. Do any teachers admit to their students that most of what they are teaching them will probably never be of use to them? Of course not. What they tell you is to study hard, get good grades, and pass exams so you can move to the next grade and have a better future. 

The purpose of education is not to educate, enlighten or increase your intelligence. It's all a scam to shape and mold you, keep you disciplined and under control, making you think that you are learning wonderful and useful things. And it's also to keep the next generation from thinking on their own which might lead to upsetting the status quo. Instead, they are told what to think (e.g. capitalism is good, socialism is bad, etc). 

Next, after high school, you are encouraged to go to college to raise your career level and status, where again you are bombarded with higher level "education" which in reality is just more useless information that you're tested on. In reality, most of what you study and memorize from college coursework under your degree program is NEVER used in the profession that you are specializing in, and is largely unnecessary for the work that you actually do. And even in the few specializations which are the exception, you still cram down far more than you need to know, just to give the college system a purpose to disciple you and weed people out.

What they don't tell you is that the real purpose of college is not to educate you, make you wiser or smarter, or even a better more capable person (though those can be fringe benefits). The real purpose is to create a middle class that acts as a buffer between the rich and poor, protecting and shielding the elite (those in power) from everyone else below them that might undermine the status quo. By using the old "divide and conquer" strategy, the elite divides its subjects in two, creating a middle class that gives the lower class a way to move up to quell some of their oppression or dissatisfaction (or at least give them the illusion of it). (See Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States) But unless you have a radical socialist history teacher (like I did) you’ll never hear that from them.

And of course, throughout the whole "education process" they indoctrinate you with the promise that if you work hard for them and retire, giving them the best years of your life, then you'll have the time and means to do any extensive traveling you dream of. Yeah right, with the poison they give you in American food, fat chance (pun intended). So in other words, you aren't supposed to have too much fun until you're too old and unhealthy to have fun anymore. They know that it may not even work out that way, but they keep the illusion of that going to serve their interests (not yours). You are conditioned and brainwashed into thinking that that's the only route in life; there is no alternative. And while you slave away your best years to them, you get 2 weeks off a year to go to Disneyland, New York, Hawaii, or some touristy crap, where you will never see or experience even 0.000001 percent of the world.    

Thanks, Tyler Durden.

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Awww, is someone having a post highschool/college career crisis?

So which college rejected you??? Dont worry bud, you can stick it to the man working the deep fryer at McDonalds, be sure to preach this bulltshit to your coworkers, I am sure they will agree with you...

He does make a good point.

" He does make a good point. "

The reason you think it's a scam is because you feel you didn't get enough attention in school. Of course it felt like boot/indoctrination camp, because there are billions of others, just like you, that the government want to grow up and be worth something. don't blame them for not being able to juggle the intellectual growth of millions of kids who don't even appreciate the sentiment.

Lol. It looks like I missed out on all the enlightening "education" a "radical socialist history teacher" could provide.  Wouldn't the terms radical socialist make it obviously he would have a super biased/unreasonable view?  And apparently math is just a lie i'm told to teach me capitalism is good, and engineering never really helps society beyond keeping the people in the profession as slaves.  Very insightful..... 
 
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This thread is a scam. :/

I think the education system we have in America right now is flawed, but not a scam, you do end up learning things, and judging by the mass amount of "gangstas" and "cholos" in my school, I don't believe they've been very subdued.

" @ThanatosXRS:   "The real purpose is to create a middle class that acts as a buffer between the rich and poor, protecting and shielding the elite (those in power) from everyone else below them that might undermine the status quo".  You clearly have no concept of history. If you look back at past revolutions (French and Russian being good examples), you will see that it is almost impossible for the lower classes to rebel on their own. It takes an educated middle class to act as the catalysis of the revolution. That is to say that it takes a middle class to realise that things could be better and to then educate the lower classes of this. If no middle class exists then the working class will almost always simply accept the status quo and not question the authority of the upper class.  If the government or the upper classes or whoever wanted a society where they could hold onto their power without any challenge then they would be best to create a world where there is no educated middle class at all. Seeing as how kids today are encouraged to improve themselves, this is hardly the case.   "

Education is necessary for the success of each generation

" Thanks, Tyler Durden. "

" I think the education system we have in America right now is flawed, but not a scam, you do end up learning things, and judging by the mass amount of "gangstas" and "cholos" in my school, I don't believe they've been very subdued. " 

" @mrfizzy said:

" @ThanatosXRS:   "The real purpose is to create a middle class that acts as a buffer between the rich and poor, protecting and shielding the elite (those in power) from everyone else below them that might undermine the status quo".  You clearly have no concept of history. If you look back at past revolutions (French and Russian being good examples), you will see that it is almost impossible for the lower classes to rebel on their own. It takes an educated middle class to act as the catalysis of the revolution. That is to say that it takes a middle class to realise that things could be better and to then educate the lower classes of this. If no middle class exists then the working class will almost always simply accept the status quo and not question the authority of the upper class.  If the government or the upper classes or whoever wanted a society where they could hold onto their power without any challenge then they would be best to create a world where there is no educated middle class at all. Seeing as how kids today are encouraged to improve themselves, this is hardly the case.   "

to simplify; the middle class is very good ant whining "

Wait, you're right! Am I really going to be USING these stupid programming languages if I get a programming job? Nah, it's all bogus to create a middle class!

If you don't go to college you won't get laid.
 
 

....Except by uglies. And you don't want to be with uglies do you?

Has anybody introduced you to HitmanAgent47?

Oh you are so wise to have cracked this, how could we have not seen this before? You are clearly the smartest man in the world, oh wise one how should we structure our world now that you have graced us with your vision?

Most peoples' education isn't perfect, most of the information we learn in school isn't directly applied to our real-lives, and there are a lot of things I don't like about the modern society of the US and UK, but come on, we are not living in Orwell's 1984 here, and education is vital for fostering the skills and knowledge of a lot of people in this world.

If anything, the rich want to get rid of the middle class because they are an asset that requires them to give up more of their cash.

I agree there are plenty of useless classes that we will never need the contents of, but an education is invaluable to a child. Countless case studies prove this.

The problem with the American education system is that they do not teach critical thinking. Students do not learn how to solve problems and how to think for themselves. They are taught to memorize a bunch of facts for a test that will quickly be forgotten. 
 
If you read L. E. Modesitt's "Imager Portfolio", you will find an interesting take on education. In the school in the book each teacher has only a handful of students. The teachers sit with each student on a one-on-one basis. A teacher assigns reading assignments and requires in depth essays on a subject. That is the simple part of it. Once the student brings their papers back to the teacher, the teacher then bombards them with not only questions about the facts, but they force them to critically analyze the "whys" and "hows" of the given subject. This kind of question and discussion forces the student to see the subject in a wider spectrum. It forces them to question and defend their viewpoints. To me, this would be an ideal way of teaching. If the a parent was smart enough and wise enough, they could teach their child this way as a supplement to formal education. If I ever have kids, this is what I will do. 

College is a scam huh? I'll get back to you when I get my master's. I'm a little busy learning about Organic Chemistry. I'm sure that will prove really useless when I'm working in a lab. 

" @McGhee_the_Insomniac: I'm a big proponent of alternate forms of education. The elementary education I received was somewhat like that, although there weren't really essays (I was in elementary school) "

The American education system is pretty badly flawed, and if you want to talk about how the culture feeds into that, I'll listen, but it's not a "scam". People just kind of suck, so a lot of the things we do and systems we create kind of suck. It can be frustrating, but this isn't going to shift the equilibrium. Either actual try to do something about it and most probably fail or deal with it. Stick with it long enough and you might find that you do have some place in it, and not everything was a waste.

" Next, after high school, you are encouraged to go to college to raise your career level and status, where again you are bombarded with higher level "education" which in reality is just more useless information that you're tested on. In reality, most of what you study and memorize from college coursework under your degree program is NEVER used in the profession that you are specializing in, and is largely unnecessary for the work that you actually do.  "

" This thread is a scam. :/ "

Perhaps education is a scam, or at least education occurs extremely inefficiently. But then again, I wouldn't be able to type this, nor would you be able to read this, hell, this website probably wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the forced education in the US. So it can't be that bad.

Well, yes our education system in america is super shitty and college is designed to suck the most money out of you as possible, but to say its a scam is pretty stupid in and of itself. Our entire school system in america needs to be redesigned and refined but to say that everything is pointless and make some of the accusations and assumptions that you do is pretty insane and just plain ridiculous.

Just so you know, anyone can get into community colleges man

I think we should just blow up all the banks.

I agree that education up through high school is pretty much a joke, but I think College is where you actually learn about what you want to learn about. Plus if you do it online, like I do, then you don't have to hear any teachers weird right/left wing rants or anything like that because all you get is the material. 

I hope all of you young'uns keep buying into the scam, otherwise the enrollments in my classes will drop and I'll be out of some cash. 
 
I wonder what series of circumstances and decisions let to the OP deciding that a video game forum was the appropriate place to make this grand public comment in.

Yeah, fuck learning.

" Oh you are so wise to have cracked this, how could we have not seen this before? You are clearly the smartest man in the world, oh wise one how should we structure our world now that you have graced us with your vision? "

You're quick to find fault in your country's education system yet you don't even try to propose any solutions or alternatives. The real reason why they teach you so many different and seemingly useless things at school is to give you options. Having options in school broadens the mind and leads you towards potential career paths, so that you might follow a chosen vocation into higher education and become highly qualified in that particular field. There's no wild conspiracy involved. If the government are able to produce a generation of competent workers in a wide range of industries then the country will continue to excel in those fields, and that very same duty will then be passed onto a future government for subsequent generations.
 
Not everybody's out to get you, mate.

College. That word holds a lot of significance in today’s society. College – the home of scholars and the enlightened, dedicated in pursuit of the answers to life, the universe, and everything in it. Many of us were taught that college was the next logical step after high school – that it was the key to leading a successful life. I’m sure you’ve all been told that to get rich, be happy, and get ahead, you need to go to college. Well, I’m here to tell you that it’s all bullshit. Every last word. You’ll find that it’s who you know, and not what you know, that determines how far you go in this life. For our generation, college is no longer a sign of excellence but a requirement. It’s nothing more than a prerequisite for any job that pays more than Kinko’s. A bachelor’s degree from your average college is the equivalent of a high school diploma in the ‘70s. You’ll find that most of your classmates will be from the shallow end of the gene pool. And there’s little chance for redemption either. Well-rounded college students are as rare as a virgin on Prom Night. Honestly, I think they're more a myth for us to aspire to than anything tangible. Most students, including all of you, are likely to fall into one of three groups. 

The first group is the college student that focuses on the social aspects. These are the spoiled brats who didn't have the grades for a scholarship and didn't work to pay their way in. Their tuition checks come in the mail every semester signed by Mommy and Daddy. Since they didn't earn their way into college themselves, it holds no real value to them. These are the students who experiment excessively with sex, drugs and alcohol and basically treat the campus as a 24-hour kegger. They know all of the students on campus, but none of the professors. They don't show up to class, more often than not...whether it's due to oversleeping, hangovers, or because Maury has the conjoined twins on again. I hear one wants to be a country singer now. 

Then comes the second group, which focuses its attention on academics. I like to consider myself a member of this category, if only out of necessity. You see, an academically focused student sounds like a good thing, to be sure. On the contrary, however. Something happens to many of these "intellectuals" by the time they reach college. Perhaps its the entrance exam or maybe its their SAT or ACT scores. Any academically-focused student that you’ll find on a college campus is a pretentious prick. No doubt about it. A lot of these students have it in their head that they are the utmost authority on everything - that their thoughts and experiences are deeply profound and original. They like to dig deep into shallow waters and discern meaning where none was intended. In high school, you knew them as the students that would remind the teachers when they forgot about a test and would insist on the class staying after the bell to continue a group conversation with the teacher. They also like to excessively flaunt their varied vocabulary. 

The last group focuses on neither the social nor the academic aspects of college. They coast through life, gaining nothing from the experience. They leech off of others, wasting their time and their lives just staying in their rooms. For them, college is just an expensive babysitter. They are just waiting for it to end, just like they waited through high school, and just like they will wait through whatever meaningless existence the future holds for them. They have no hopes, no dreams, no aspirations. They are the damned, the depressed, the unmotivated. They are the worst kind of college student you can possibly be, and should be avoided at all costs. You don’t want to be a part of the last group, trust me. 

So, if you can accept that you'll be in one of these groups of students, then you're finally ready for college.    

" Critical thinking really needs to be developed in the home, during the formative years of growth. That would mean, however, that parents need to be responsible for their children - but our country isn't quite ready to say that publicly, for some reason. So, lets blame the education system, why not...... "

...i thought college was for parties. I didn't sign up for all this learning crap