No chance. One of my wifes friends is a porn star. She now has kids..I mean isn't that just the setup for the most awkward teenage conversation? How about when the kids at school find out...no thanks.
A similar question (at least in my mind) would be: Would you marry a hooker?
Would you marry a pornstar?
" No chance. One of my wifes friends is a porn star. She now has kids..I mean isn't that just the setup for the most awkward teenage conversation? How about when the kids at school find out...no thanks. A similar question (at least in my mind) would be: Would you marry a hooker? "It's just fucking sex, y'know. Nothing to be embarrassed about. I'd consider someone who has sex for money far more honest and respectable than any person who worked for a company or institution I detested.
" Nope. I already learned a lesson with loving a whore. "Oh? What went wrong, if I may ask?
" @Ihmishylje said:I'm sorry to hear that, but I don't think that had anything to do with her profession, necessarily." @NikFreaX said:I had her friends tell me that she tried to cheat on me while we were going out and that she kept saying that she didn't love me. "" Nope. I already learned a lesson with loving a whore. "Oh? What went wrong, if I may ask? "
A woman that had sex with a hundred+ men (possibly all at once?!), had gallons of a certain substance sprayed all over her with a high-risk she's STD ridden? Now, let me think... Okay, I happen to know a couple of whom the woman was a former prostitute. Despite her history, her current husband loved her and married her. Love is a strange and beautiful thing. It gives hope, forgives, endures etc. To answer the question; I think I could marry her on the condition she quits doing what she's doing.
" @FourWude: " You've also talked out of your ass about how society is changing and more accepting of porn stars. If society was anywhere near where you believe it is, we'd have porn on daytime TV, the fact we don't is all you need to know about where society really is. If seeing porn as a perversion is "dying" out, it is by no means quite dead yet, and is certainly not accepted by society at large." If you read my words carefully you will notice that I move from porn to a more general outlook. There are people that will always think as you do. No doubt about that. So your reasoning is that if anything is not allowed to be on daytime TV then society holds it as a perversion. That would allow young children to view porn, which in their developing years may be harmful. The problem, once again, is that you are forcing your own morals onto the women who make porn. "And one last thing, it's nice to know you condone women who sell their bodies for drug use. I'm sure in the ideal society where you live in, they'd make great members of society, where everyone has equal worth. You wouldn't want to be demeaning to crack whores now would you? They are after all making their own choices in life, and giving themselves maximisation of their own pleasures." Full prostitution should be legal, but that is a whole other debate. This weird equation you are making where you equate a woman who makes porn to a woman who is drug addict and becomes a prostitute to support her addiction is just a little ridiculous. Drugs should also be decriminalized, but that is also another debate. In the society I live in a drug addict would get help. I would pity this person, instead of just shunning the "crack whores". Addiction is the problem here. JokerSmilez said it quite well, " If a pornographic actress enjoys what she does for a living and is making a lot of money (porn is one of the few industries where women make significantly more than men), why is she demeaning herself by doing it? Because you say so? Because you think porn is a perversion? That's your opinion. And to force your opinion onto others and to judge them based on your opinion is much more demeaning to women than what they freely choose to do with their lives and bodies." "
So what you're saying is that you find Crack whores demeaning and don't respect their lifestyle choices.... way to be a fucking hypocrite. Pathetic normative judgments on other people get you nowhere and you've just shown yourself up.
Prostitution for porn = prostitution for drugs. Both are lifestyle choices.
Probably not. It would be really weird having her start a conversation with my parents and having them asking her about her occupation.
People are far too diverse and unique for me to judge them based solely on their professions. Whether or not I'm going to marry someone will be solely based on my relationship with that person (i.e. love), not what they do for a living (well as long as it's not an illegal/criminal profession).
" @McGhee_the_Insomniac said:Ugh. . . I wonder why I bother. I said, "Drugs should be decriminalized." If you want to do drugs, then go ahead. I would go farther and say many should be flat out legalized, but regulated like alcohol and tobacco. Some drugs are physically destructive and some aren't. Most people who are hooked on hardcore drugs, at some level, really want to quit. If they WANT to stay addicted then THAT IS THERE CHOICE as long as they are not abusing others in that process. How does me saying that I want addicts to get help rather than writing them off "crack whores" mean I demean them and don't respect their lifestyle choice?" @FourWude: " You've also talked out of your ass about how society is changing and more accepting of porn stars. If society was anywhere near where you believe it is, we'd have porn on daytime TV, the fact we don't is all you need to know about where society really is. If seeing porn as a perversion is "dying" out, it is by no means quite dead yet, and is certainly not accepted by society at large." If you read my words carefully you will notice that I move from porn to a more general outlook. There are people that will always think as you do. No doubt about that. So your reasoning is that if anything is not allowed to be on daytime TV then society holds it as a perversion. That would allow young children to view porn, which in their developing years may be harmful. The problem, once again, is that you are forcing your own morals onto the women who make porn. "And one last thing, it's nice to know you condone women who sell their bodies for drug use. I'm sure in the ideal society where you live in, they'd make great members of society, where everyone has equal worth. You wouldn't want to be demeaning to crack whores now would you? They are after all making their own choices in life, and giving themselves maximisation of their own pleasures." Full prostitution should be legal, but that is a whole other debate. This weird equation you are making where you equate a woman who makes porn to a woman who is drug addict and becomes a prostitute to support her addiction is just a little ridiculous. Drugs should also be decriminalized, but that is also another debate. In the society I live in a drug addict would get help. I would pity this person, instead of just shunning the "crack whores". Addiction is the problem here. JokerSmilez said it quite well, " If a pornographic actress enjoys what she does for a living and is making a lot of money (porn is one of the few industries where women make significantly more than men), why is she demeaning herself by doing it? Because you say so? Because you think porn is a perversion? That's your opinion. And to force your opinion onto others and to judge them based on your opinion is much more demeaning to women than what they freely choose to do with their lives and bodies." "So what you're saying is that you find Crack whores demeaning and don't respect their lifestyle choices.... way to be a fucking hypocrite. Pathetic normative judgments on other people get you nowhere and you've just shown yourself up.
Prostitution for porn = prostitution for drugs. Both are lifestyle choices.
"
I generally am not one to call names, but everything about you screams "angry, self righteous, douche bag." In other words, I don't see any point in a discussion where the person I'm talk to's main line of reasoning is "This is BAD. The reason it is BAD is because I say it is BAD. LALALALALALALALA."
" @FourWude said:But do you see drug users as lesser than other members of society? Your posts imply yes.... which makes you a hypocrite on this topic." @McGhee_the_Insomniac said:Ugh. . . I wonder why I bother. I said, "Drugs should be decriminalized." If you want to do drugs, then go ahead. I would go farther and say many should be flat out legalized, but regulated like alcohol and tobacco. Some drugs are physically destructive and some aren't. Most people who are hooked on hardcore drugs, at some level, really want to quit. If they WANT to stay addicted then THAT IS THERE CHOICE as long as they are not abusing others in that process. How does me saying that I want addicts to get help rather than writing them off "crack whores" mean I demean them and don't respect their lifestyle choice? I generally am not one to call names, but everything about you screams "angry, self righteous, douche bag." In other words, I don't see any point in a discussion where the person I'm talk to's main line of reasoning is "This is BAD. The reason it is BAD is because I say it is BAD. LALALALALALALALA." "" @FourWude: " You've also talked out of your ass about how society is changing and more accepting of porn stars. If society was anywhere near where you believe it is, we'd have porn on daytime TV, the fact we don't is all you need to know about where society really is. If seeing porn as a perversion is "dying" out, it is by no means quite dead yet, and is certainly not accepted by society at large." If you read my words carefully you will notice that I move from porn to a more general outlook. There are people that will always think as you do. No doubt about that. So your reasoning is that if anything is not allowed to be on daytime TV then society holds it as a perversion. That would allow young children to view porn, which in their developing years may be harmful. The problem, once again, is that you are forcing your own morals onto the women who make porn. "And one last thing, it's nice to know you condone women who sell their bodies for drug use. I'm sure in the ideal society where you live in, they'd make great members of society, where everyone has equal worth. You wouldn't want to be demeaning to crack whores now would you? They are after all making their own choices in life, and giving themselves maximisation of their own pleasures." Full prostitution should be legal, but that is a whole other debate. This weird equation you are making where you equate a woman who makes porn to a woman who is drug addict and becomes a prostitute to support her addiction is just a little ridiculous. Drugs should also be decriminalized, but that is also another debate. In the society I live in a drug addict would get help. I would pity this person, instead of just shunning the "crack whores". Addiction is the problem here. JokerSmilez said it quite well, " If a pornographic actress enjoys what she does for a living and is making a lot of money (porn is one of the few industries where women make significantly more than men), why is she demeaning herself by doing it? Because you say so? Because you think porn is a perversion? That's your opinion. And to force your opinion onto others and to judge them based on your opinion is much more demeaning to women than what they freely choose to do with their lives and bodies." "So what you're saying is that you find Crack whores demeaning and don't respect their lifestyle choices.... way to be a fucking hypocrite. Pathetic normative judgments on other people get you nowhere and you've just shown yourself up.
Prostitution for porn = prostitution for drugs. Both are lifestyle choices.
"
No, I do not. I do drugs myself, sometimes. As do friends of mine. Some addictions turn into serious diseases that people want cured. There is no hypocrisy in saying that someone that wants help should get it. I do not equate a porn star as someone with a disease that needs help. It is a profession. You are throwing out a red herring, dodging the core issue.
" @FourWude: No, I do not. I do drugs myself, sometimes. As do friends of mine. Some addictions turn into serious diseases that people want cured. There is no hypocrisy in saying that someone that wants help should get it. I do not equate a porn star as someone with a disease that needs help. It is a profession. You are throwing out a red herring, dodging the core issue. "
Now you're equating drug use with disease. It's their lifestyle choice, no worse than getting addicted to cigarettes, which I'm sure you wouldn't classify as a disease. Stop demeaning crack whores who are happy with the way they are. Some may want off it, that's their choice, many won't though.
So all in all what we've learned from this topic of conversation is that everything is relative, value is completely subjective with disregard to wider society, and porn stars and crack whores are of equal worth to doctors and teachers. Interesting shit.
No, there is a debate among psychologists as to whether addiction is a choice or a disease. I am of the opinion that addiction starts as a choice (even though some people are more prone to becoming addicted than others) and becomes a disease once the brain and body is altered.
What we have learned is that you hate a lot of people, even the ones that are harming no one. Funny though, how often the most vehement and vocal preacher against one sin or another turns out to be the one doing it the most. I wonder what kind of kinky stuff is on your hard drive? :)
" @FourWude: No, there is a debate among psychologists as to whether addiction is a choice or a disease. I am of the opinion that addiction starts as a choice (even though some people are more prone to becoming addicted than others) and becomes a disease once the brain and body is altered. What we have learned is that you hate a lot of people, even the ones that are harming no one. Funny though, how often the most vehement and vocal preacher against one sin or another turns out to be the one doing it the most. I wonder what kind of kinky stuff is on your hard drive? :) "
Coming from the man who is demeaning drug users this means nothing.
And whatever kink.com stuff you find on my hard drive is none of your business.
Wow, this thread is going off topic. Firsly, whether or not something is a a choice or a disease is not a "matter of opinion". Secondly, I don't give a shit what a psychologist says, most of them are not real scientists. Thirdly, a fair amount of physicists would argue that there's no such thing as "free will" and thus no "choice" to begin with." @FourWude: No, there is a debate among psychologists as to whether addiction is a choice or a disease. I am of the opinion that addiction starts as a choice (even though some people are more prone to becoming addicted than others) and becomes a disease once the brain and body is altered. What we have learned is that you hate a lot of people, even the ones that are harming no one. Funny though, how often the most vehement and vocal preacher against one sin or another turns out to be the one doing it the most. I wonder what kind of kinky stuff is on your hard drive? :) "
Edit: Furthermore, arguing about whether or not a mental issue is a "disease" is fucking pointless. Either it's a problem for the person and they need help or it isn't a problem for them and everybody else can go fuck themselves.
If I love a chick that happens to be a porn star.. sure.
I wouldn't marry a porn star. I would marry a woman. What she did/do for a living is a different discussion.
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