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Posted by falserelic (5407 posts) 1 year, 3 months ago

Poll: You ever plan on gambling at a Casino ? (100 votes)

Indeed I will one day seems like a good time. 12%
No fucking way I ain't wasting my money on pure luck. 27%
I'm debating whether I should go or not, maybe. 5%
I've already been and enjoyed myself quite alot. 30%
I been to a casino, but it wasn't something that I liked. 26%

In two weeks I'll be 21, and my father wants to take me to a casino and stripclub. The casino I'm perfectly fine with going too, but as for the stripclub I'm still debating about that. It's not that I don't want to visit a stripclub hell that's like a dream come true, but I would feel uncomfortable going with my dad.

As for the casino it seems like a place to chillout. I won't mind wasting afew bucks on some machines to see if I get lucky. I might end up enjoying the experience or not, but I guess I'll find out soon enough.

#1 Edited by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

I've gambled at a casino before, and it was alright. I wouldn't say I enjoyed myself a lot, but it wasn't awful. I'm pretty good at blackjack; so, making enough to waste on overpriced alcohol was nice.

I haven't really had a desire to go again though. I think gambling amongst friends is a lot more fun than just out at a casino. As long as you're willing to lose all of the money you're betting in exchange for a potential good time, it can be enjoyable enough.

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#2 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (3791 posts) -

A casino sounds alright. I've been to Vegas. But I suppose I'm not very good at any of those games. As long as you're happy with leaving at flat profit, you'll have fun.

#3 Posted by falserelic (5407 posts) -

I've gambled at a casino before, and it was alright. I wouldn't say I enjoyed myself a lot, but it wasn't awful. I'm pretty good at blackjack; so, making enough to waste on overpriced alcohol was nice.

I haven't really had a desire to go again though. I think gambling amongst friends is a lot more fun than just out at a casino. As long as you're willing to lose all of the money you're betting in exchange for a potential good time, it can be enjoyable enough.

If you don't mind me asking, I'm just curious.

How much money have you ever lost from gambling at the casino?

#4 Posted by Rorie (2987 posts) -

So long as you're OK with accepting the fact that you'll likely lose some money (and only bringing an amount of money that you're willing to lose), gambling can be pretty fun. Just don't become one of those sad old people who sit around the corner store playing scratch-off lotto all day.

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#5 Edited by falserelic (5407 posts) -

@rorie said:

So long as you're OK with accepting the fact that you'll likely lose some money (and only bringing an amount of money that you're willing to lose), gambling can be pretty fun. Just don't become one of those sad old people who sit around the corner store playing scratch-off lotto all day.

LOL! hopefully I won't.

My parents and brothers are addicted to gambling. I hope I don't follow that same path.

#6 Posted by 49th (2852 posts) -

I've gambled in Vegas a little bit, I don't really think it's my thing though. I tend to just bet the max amount every time and end up losing. The card games were kind of daunting as well, I didn't know the rules well enough to play.

#7 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4988 posts) -

I watched my brother once gamble on slot machines. He gained a profit of $60 and then we just bounced out of there. The environment of cigarette smoke and old people is just really depressing.

#8 Posted by Monkeyman04 (1228 posts) -

I'll just stick to the slot machines in Borderlands 2. =P

#9 Edited by Missacre (566 posts) -

I went to Vegas with my boyfriend (now-husband) and I have to say, we came back with a lot more money than we left with, so we got married right away and bought a house.

#10 Posted by Demoskinos (15176 posts) -

No sir. If gambling on Salty bet and other fake video games has taught me anything its that I should never gamble with my real money because I don't know when to quit.

#11 Edited by falserelic (5407 posts) -

@49th said:

I've gambled in Vegas a little bit, I don't really think it's my thing though. I tend to just bet the max amount every time and end up losing. The card games were kind of daunting as well, I didn't know the rules well enough to play.

There's afew card games I learned back in High School such as blackjack and tunk, but other then that I don't know how to play too many card games.

#12 Posted by Kevin_Cogneto (1184 posts) -

Yesh, this much hand-wringing about gambling in a casino? You'll have a blast, stop worrying about it.

#13 Edited by JadeGL (975 posts) -

I have been to two casinos in my life. One on my honeymoon, and it was literally in and out. Total time there was probably an hour.

The second time was in Bangor, Maine. Slot machine based, I don't think they had any other games. My husband and I went as purely an overnight trip to check it out. We got a hotel room and he ended up winning enough money to pretty much make our stay free that night, so that was nice. Otherwise it was pretty blah. We ended up watching Monday Night RAW in our hotel room that night, drinking soda and eating chips that we bought from a gas station across the street. So, all in all, a good time. :)

In total,casinos are okay, but not a place I would set out to visit now that I have experienced it. Most of the people I saw at the casinos were old and didn't look like they were having any fun. I had fun, but you have to be okay with the fact that you will lose, and then just let that happen, and if you win you pocket that shit and keep it.

But I am sure a place like Vegas would be much better and probably leave a different impression on me than the two casinos I have actually been to.

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#14 Posted by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

@truthtellah said:

I've gambled at a casino before, and it was alright. I wouldn't say I enjoyed myself a lot, but it wasn't awful. I'm pretty good at blackjack; so, making enough to waste on overpriced alcohol was nice.

I haven't really had a desire to go again though. I think gambling amongst friends is a lot more fun than just out at a casino. As long as you're willing to lose all of the money you're betting in exchange for a potential good time, it can be enjoyable enough.

If you don't mind me asking, I'm just curious.

How much money have you ever lost from gambling at the casino?

hm. I play pretty close to the vest. So, probably lost around $100. Though, if you just go off what I've -won- and then subsequently lost, that's probably close to a thousand dollars. But that was all fantasy at a certain point. ha. Casinos are good at making any winnings disappear.

Honestly, I wouldn't bring money to gamble unless I was willing to lose that money and still walk away happy with the time I had. You're basically paying that amount for a few days or hours of entertainment, and if you just happen to walk away with a similar amount or more than you came in with, that's just icing on the cake.

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#15 Edited by HerbieBug (4208 posts) -

Casino: sure, those can be fun. Just decide on a set amount of money you are willing to lose before you go and do not continue playing after you have lost that amount. If you prefer optimism included in the equation, also select a maximum winnings amount you will immediately stop playing once won. Gambling only turns sour when you start playing with intent to "win back" the money you have already lost.

Stripclub: I don't like stripclubs. I have no problem with the concept of them or their existence, it's more that I find the experience some unsatisfactory balance between sexual frustration and being treated by all of the staff in the place like a money dispensary wearing pants. I usually feel shitty about women and shitty about having spent any money at all to experience the place.

That said, strip clubs can be fun too. With friends. Not your dad. I feel uncomfortable enough when I am visiting dad and we watch a movie that has a sex scene in it. He's super uptight about sex and I start to wonder if maybe he would be happier if I fastforwarded the scene like he did constantly in the same situation when I was a kid. :/

#16 Edited by Captain_Insano (1566 posts) -

@rorie said:

So long as you're OK with accepting the fact that you'll likely lose some money (and only bringing an amount of money that you're willing to lose), gambling can be pretty fun. Just don't become one of those sad old people who sit around the corner store playing scratch-off lotto all day.

+1

Over here in Aus I've been to a few casinos, mainly on bucks weekends. For those types of occasions I always take a decent budget that I'm prepared (and expecting) to lose. That way if it all goes, that's fine, it's budgeted for and at least I've taken some time doing it. If I win, that's a bonus. I'm normally pretty stoked if I break even and cover the costs of my drinks.

Tips: don't try to 'win' your money back. don't play pokies (slot machines), they suck, just go with blackjack or roulette.

#17 Edited by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

Oh, and on the other topic, I think it would be weird to go to a stripclub with your father. It can be weird enough going at all, but with a parent? Just sounds awkward to me. Like those fathers that take their sons to prostitutes when they come of age to "make a man of them". Stuff is weird.

Going with your father to a casino is one thing, but a stripclub? I don't really know why you'd want to go to one in the first place, but if you do, I'd go with friends rather than your father.

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#18 Edited by falserelic (5407 posts) -

@truthtellah Yeah, I'll probably take a certain amount of cash with me. I would hate to lose all my money on the sameday at the casino. As for the stripclub I wouldn't want to go with my dad, so I'll probably avoid it.

@herbiebug LOL! I know what you mean. afew times I got caught in awkward situations from sex scenes in movies with my parents. I still remember that sex scene in Monster Ball, where that old man was running the train on Halle Berry. That day I was with my mom at the show. She told me to close my eyes, but I kept them open.

#19 Edited by HerbieBug (4208 posts) -

Oh, one more thing about gambling: all of the games are statistically slanted towards the casino's favour. The only exception to that is card games where you are playing against other people rather than the casino, and blackjack which works out more or less to 49/51 odds between you and the casino respectively. The casino has a very small edge because you automatically lose when you bust (go over 21) even if the dealer also busts on the same hand. In a fair game of blackjack, that would be a push, where both sides retain the money wagered.

#20 Posted by falserelic (5407 posts) -

Oh, one more thing about gambling: all of the games are statistically slanted towards the casino's favour. The only exception to that is card games where you are playing against other people rather than the casino, and blackjack which works out more or less to 50/50 odds between you and the casino.

Thinking about it your right. I remember seeing a vid about that, and how some people manage to cheat the system.

#21 Posted by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

@herbiebug said:

Oh, one more thing about gambling: all of the games are statistically slanted towards the casino's favour. The only exception to that is card games where you are playing against other people rather than the casino, and blackjack which works out more or less to 50/50 odds between you and the casino.

Thinking about it your right. I remember seeing a vid about that, and how some people manage to cheat the system.

Yeah, and if you try to even the odds, they can gladly kick you out. :D

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#22 Edited by HerbieBug (4208 posts) -

edited above post for better accuracy on blackjack casino odds.

You can gain advantage in blackjack by card counting. This is a very difficult skill to learn and very hard to utilize effectively in a casino where the shoe (the dealer's cards) is several decks deep. Casinos love amateur card counters. They love them because they tend to lose. A lot. :D If you're proven to be good at card counting and the casino suspects you are doing so, they will boot you from the premises and ban you from entry in future.

#23 Posted by tourgen (4542 posts) -

Oh, one more thing about gambling: all of the games are statistically slanted towards the casino's favour. The only exception to that is card games where you are playing against other people rather than the casino, and blackjack which works out more or less to 50/50 odds between you and the casino.

there are a few video poker machines that pay out a few % with perfect play. you have to look at the payout chart to find them. but video poker and slots are just depressing and sad.

casinos kind of suck.

craps and blackjack are alright if you're with a group of friends and don't mind big swings.

strip clubs meh. overpriced drinks and fake tits. go pick up girls at the Dirty Bird bar instead.

#24 Edited by Turtlebird95 (2620 posts) -

Not casinos. I'd rather gamble among friends and those $1 lottery tickets my family gives me every year for Christmas.

#25 Posted by falserelic (5407 posts) -

edited above post for better accuracy on blackjack casino odds.

You can gain advantage in blackjack by card counting. This is a very difficult skill to learn and very hard to utilize effectively in a casino where the shoe (the dealer's cards) is several decks deep. Casinos love amateur card counters. They love them because they tend to lose. A lot. :D If you're proven to be good at card counting and the casino suspects you are doing so, they will boot you from the premises and ban you from entry in future.

Just wondering.

Don't some people bring partners to help them out while there cheating? To kinda give a heads up about what the dealer might do next.

#26 Edited by Kevin_Cogneto (1184 posts) -

@herbiebug said:

Oh, one more thing about gambling: all of the games are statistically slanted towards the casino's favour. The only exception to that is card games where you are playing against other people rather than the casino, and blackjack which works out more or less to 49/51 odds between you and the casino respectively. The casino has a very small edge because you automatically lose when you bust (go over 21) even if the dealer also busts on the same hand. In a fair game of blackjack, that would be a push, where both sides retain the money wagered.

I don't know the statistics of it, but I doubt that would be fair at all, since the player has the advantage of being able to make decisions based on the dealer's card, while the dealer must follow the house rules no matter what. If everyone at the table has 12s and 13s and the dealer has a 16, the dealer still has to hit, even though standing would result in a guaranteed win for the house. The fact that the dealer wins when both sides bust only serves to offset the player's natural advantage. I'm pretty sure the advantage would swing waaay in the player's favor if you made that a push.

@falserelic said:

Just wondering.

Don't some people bring partners to help them out while there cheating? To kinda give a heads up about what the dealer might do next.

Card counters tend to come in teams, yes indeed. Actually in Vegas a friend and I once had a minor confrontation with a pit boss because he suspected us of card counting, but we just happened to be talking about a topic that had a lot of numbers in it.

#27 Posted by Dalai (7074 posts) -

I make a trip to the local casino every month or so and park myself at the Texas Hold'em table for a few hours or until I lose the money I bring. I rarely touch slots or any game that relies more on luck than skill.

#28 Edited by MB (13140 posts) -

I've spent a lot of time in casinos and card rooms over the years. At this point in my life, I only play poker against other people in casinos' card rooms, and I don't really consider that gambling. Just keep in mind that the whole reason those big theme park-like casinos in Vegas and elsewhere exist is that most people lose, and lose big. I stick to games where I'm not playing against the house, who always has an advantage, without exception. At least in poker you're only paying the rake.

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#29 Posted by 34f3ecwdc3 (162 posts) -

Yeah, someday in a big Casino I will go happily drunk, sacrifice my entire economy and get out of there crying. At least I will make sure the experience will worth it.

#30 Posted by jasonefmonk (346 posts) -

I went and played Hold 'Em once. Had a lot of fun. Lost $200. Any money you go in with be okay with losing. At one point I was up $75, know when to quit.

#31 Edited by agemyth (93 posts) -

Casinos are for people who hate math.

Obviously, everything except some card games are absolutely rotten unless you enjoy flushing money down the toilet. Games like poker and blackjack do not interest me personally though.

Lastly, most casinos allow people to smoke in them, and boy do math-haters love to chain smoke.

#32 Posted by Animasta (14730 posts) -

I would go to the local casino for movies all the time, and everyone there were the saddest motherfuckers around, so no.

#33 Edited by falserelic (5407 posts) -

@agemyth said:

Casinos are for people who hate math.

Obviously, everything except some card games are absolutely rotten unless you enjoy flushing money down the toilet. Games like poker and blackjack do not interest me personally though.

Lastly, most casinos allow people to smoke in them, and boy do math-haters love to chain smoke.

Seeing old or middle age people smoke, drink beer, cuss, fight, argue, yell is something I'm very use too. My dad is very additive to gambling at the race track (Horse Racing). When I was younger he would take me there alot, and it was so boring. Now and then it was fun watching horses race, but man did it get old over the years.

Since my dad is an alcoholic and has a very short temper. I've seen him act up alot at the race track with other people. He also got my older brother into gambling at race tracks, and he became an alcoholic aswell.

#34 Edited by Sinusoidal (1822 posts) -

I gambled in a casino once. Blew $2 on nickel slots, won $15. Bought a pitcher of overpriced beer and considered it time well spent. I'd never bet any real amount of money on random chance.

On a side note, there's this one casino town here in Korea that is the fucking scummiest hole of festering shit I have ever been witness to. The small town that has sprung up around the casino (and ski-hill: the reason I was there) is nothing but wall to wall shitty overpriced restaurants, dabangs (places where young women serve "coffee" to older gents) singing rooms where you can hire young lady "helper" singers who help you to "sing" and fucking loan sharks as far as the eye can see offering to let you use everything from your phone to your car to your house as collateral. I can't imagine the number of lives have been wrecked in that place.

#35 Posted by Slay3r1583 (642 posts) -

I live like 15 minutes from a riverboat casino. I went one time when I turned 21. I just played slots for a bit and had a couple drinks. I ended up breaking even. I didn't really care for it and I don't plan on going back. There are always plenty of other things I'd much rather waste my money on.

#36 Posted by seveword (189 posts) -

I pulled $40 out of an ATM, sat down at the three card poker table, and immediately won $50. I then proceeded to get drunk as hell and blow all of my money. I woke up the next morning in a bathtub, without my pants on, with a crushing hangover.

It wasn't a bad experience, all told.

#37 Posted by audioBusting (1649 posts) -

I voted never, but it might be fun to go to with friends and family.

#38 Posted by Hunter5024 (5980 posts) -

My friend invited me to go with his family to Vegas this year, and I think I'm probably going to set aside like 50 bucks to gamble with until it's gone, just to see how I like it. I imagine that $50 will be gone pretty quick.

#39 Posted by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

My friend invited me to go with his family to Vegas this year, and I think I'm probably going to set aside like 50 bucks to gamble with until it's gone, just to see how I like it. I imagine that $50 will be gone pretty quick.

"Hi, sir, welcome to Vegas!"

*looks down and sees that $50 is already gone from your pocket*

"...."

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#40 Edited by falserelic (5407 posts) -

@seveword said:

I pulled $40 out of an ATM, sat down at the three card poker table, and immediately won $50. I then proceeded to get drunk as hell and blow all of my money. I woke up the next morning in a bathtub, without my pants on, with a crushing hangover.

It wasn't a bad experience, all told.

A few years ago my friend that lives in Canada had a Party at a stripclub when he was 19. From what he told me all his friends got drunk, he ended up getting a private lap dance with a stripper and made out with her (Which I thought was just nasty). Later on that day he ended up passed out in his friends tub. Though he did had a good time, but him and his friends were broke afterwards.

#41 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6311 posts) -

Gambling's never been my vice but if I go to a casino with a bunch of my friends then fuck it, why not?

#42 Posted by SARRISS (155 posts) -

I did once and was scared that I might get addicted to it or something. In the end I was pretty bored and didn't get enough to get a porygon.

#43 Posted by Slag (4899 posts) -

Nope, I got far more enjoyable ways to throw away money.

#44 Posted by crusader8463 (14429 posts) -

I always thought it would be fun to drop a couple hundred. I would spend my time playing 21 -betting a couple dollars each hand- as it's the only gambling card game I know the rules to. Then when I was done I would spend the money I had left at the craps table. I would just keep betting a colour until I either lost my money or was doubled.

All that said, I have never been near a casino nor have I had that kind of money to just blow on a whim. So I doubt it would ever happen.

#45 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3828 posts) -

I once won about fifteen hundred dollars at a casino on the slots and lost it at the black jack table. I could have the money to buy both an xbox one and a playstation 4 plus food, and now I'm broke. You learn your lessons and get over it.

#46 Edited by Felorn (12 posts) -

As someone who was born and raised in Las Vegas, my only advice is that you look at gambling as entertainment rather than a way to make money. You will have a lot more fun this way and if you do happen to win leave immediately or you will give it all back.

#47 Edited by Kidavenger (3629 posts) -

I've been to the casino 3 times in my life, each time I spent $25 and I basically just spent it as fast as I possibly could, I wasn't there for the gambling, just to hang out with friends; one of those times I ended up taking home $300 so overall I'm up, but it's really stupid/boring, I can't imagine going on a regular basis but it's ok to go a few times.

The year I turned 18, my friends and I went to strip clubs pretty much every single weekend for about 6 months straight, it was an obsession for awhile but I haven't been to one in probably 15 years now, it loses it's appeal once you step back from it and think about what is actually going on. I think it would be pretty strange going to a strip club with your dad, but not stranger than going alone (never go alone).

The last strip club I went to was completely insane and really put me off of them, my friend used to exclusively date strippers and we went to a private club with his girlfriend and the place was just one big empty room with a big stage in the middle, the girls sat along the walls (no changerooms) and waited for their turn to go up, all of the walls were covered with big screen TVs playing hardcore porn, it felt more like a hooker audition than a stripclub; thankfully I wasn't the only one freaking out and we left very quickly.

#48 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3828 posts) -

@kidavenger said:

I've been to the casino 3 times in my life, each time I spent $25 and I basically just spent it as fast as I possibly could, I wasn't there for the gambling, just to hang out with friends; one of those times I ended up taking home $300 so overall I'm up, but it's really stupid/boring, I can't imagine going on a regular basis but it's ok to go a few times.

The year I turned 18, my friends and I went to strip clubs pretty much every single weekend for about 6 months straight, it was an obsession for awhile but I haven't been to one in probably 15 years now, it loses it's appeal once you step back from it and think about what is actually going on. I think it would be pretty strange going to a strip club with your dad, but not stranger than going alone (never go alone).

wait we talking about strip clubs or "strip clubs" with the tatas? I think I can like kinda figure out what you're saying here but yeah going to a strip club with the tatas would be kinda weird with a parent.

#49 Posted by falserelic (5407 posts) -

The last strip club I went to was completely insane and really put me off of them, my friend used to exclusively date strippers and we went to a private club with his girlfriend and the place was just one big empty room with a big stage in the middle, the girls sat along the walls (no changerooms) and waited for their turn to go up, all of the walls were covered with big screen TVs playing hardcore porn, it felt more like a hooker audition than a stripclub; thankfully I wasn't the only one freaking out and we left very quickly.

I can already imagine the type of stuff that goes on in that club. I would have felt uncomfortable too in that situation. It was probably more of a sex club if anything.

#50 Posted by alwaysbebombing (1652 posts) -

Does the Salty Dream Casino count?