Zune HD vs. Ipod Touch 3g

My old ipod just recently broke. I was planning to get a new ipod touch, but i saw a lot of comparisons to the zune hd, so i decided to give that a look. Right now, the Zune has me more interested than the ipod touch. I mostly want good UI and a good browser. Most of the ipod apps don't interest me, and the Zune will have a few good apps similar to the ipod's. I like the nice screen on the zune. One thing, however is that I have not spent any money on the itunes store. I think Microsoft Points are more convenient, so that is a plus. What do you think?

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I've had a Zune since the originals and I've loved them. Haven't picked up an HD yet because I don't have the cash, but the Zune interface is slick and easy to use. The PC software is nice as well. 
One thing you CANNOT overlook, but many sites do when comparing the 2 is that the Zune has the Zune Pass. For $15 a month you can download AS MANY CDs as you want which stay valid for as long as you have a subscription and you can download 10 songs that are permanently yours every month. So, if you do that in Itunes pricing, you are buying 10 songs every month and getting unlimited access to their entire catalog for just $5 a month, that's a steal. 
Plus, the HD is just a sexier device... you know it. The HD looks like a man's player, the Ipods and Iphones both look like something my girlfriend would find cute in her purse.

I hate all things touchscreen as its just pointless. Why give up the old click-wheel and bigger HD for a flashy UI and smaller HD? 
 
I personally prefer itunes for its quick sync ability, and hey, you can pirate music anyway ;)

I would go with the Zune HD. Its a new product, its different and looks super slick. I know I wish i could pick one up, but Im stuck with an iMac.. so that blows.. and also having the option to use a zune pass to pay 15 bucks a month to download all the music you want. Thats a pretty good deal right there. So my vote is for the zune hd. 

Depends on what you want.  The Touch is more like a handheld computer since it can be coded for.  The Zune HD excels at media (especially with that screen).  It's the screen that would be the clincher for me.....if I could buy it.  I just have to hope that it comes out in Canada someday.

I don't think you'll be disappointed with the Zune HD's UI, but the browser isn't quite as good as the iPod Touch's. Other than that, here is a nice comparison in table form.

Gizmodo said pretty much that for pure media playing, the Zune HD raises the bar on every level.

EDIT: Um, do links not work with Opera or something?

I'm a fan of the Zune software, especially the latest 4.0 update.  Zune pass isn't such a bad deal either.

" @Averhoeven: Do you work at Microsoft? "

I use a zune for the same reason The Duke was my favorite controller. It fits really well in my freakishly huge hands. My fingers are way too big for touch screens too. So yeah, zunes.

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" My old ipod just recently broke. I was planning to get a new ipod touch, but i saw a lot of comparisons to the zune hd, so i decided to give that a look. Right now, the Zune has me more interested than the ipod touch. I mostly want good UI and a good browser. Most of the ipod apps don't interest me, and the Zune will have a few good apps similar to the ipod's. I like the nice screen on the zune. One thing, however is that I have not spent any money on the itunes store. I think Microsoft Points are more convenient, so that is a plus. What do you think? "

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I've had a Zune since the originals and I've loved them. Haven't picked up an HD yet because I don't have the cash, but the Zune interface is slick and easy to use. The PC software is nice as well. 
One thing you CANNOT overlook, but many sites do when comparing the 2 is that the Zune has the Zune Pass. For $15 a month you can download AS MANY CDs as you want which stay valid for as long as you have a subscription and you can download 10 songs that are permanently yours every month. So, if you do that in Itunes pricing, you are buying 10 songs every month and getting unlimited access to their entire catalog for just $5 a month, that's a steal. 
Plus, the HD is just a sexier device... you know it. The HD looks like a man's player, the Ipods and Iphones both look like something my girlfriend would find cute in her purse.

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I bought the Zune 80GB, and it really is a great media device, but, honestly, it is too big.  
 
Went back to my old 1st generation 2GB Nano and I couldn't be happier. It's small, simple, and just a sexy looking piece of hardware overall.  
 
NOTE: I am not dissing the Zune, nor am I an iPod fan by any means. 

I have had a Zune since the original and there are some pros and cons to the device. I have a 30gig and have a friend with the 80 and both have all the same issues. Maybe they are fixed in the HD but I doubt it. 
1. Video from the Zune Software to the Zune is INSANELY slow. Even if the video you are moving over is in a Zune supported format it has to "convert" the video to the format it is already in. This process takes anywhere from 10 mins for a music video to 4 hours or more for movies. I seriously started a movie syncing a movie to my zune around 11pm one night, went to bed and woke up around 7am with it still converting. 
2.The $15 a month is a cool offer, but the downside is the zune software randomly not updating the license agreements on your downloaded songs. Nothing sucks worse than to leave to go somewhere and hop in the car expecting to play some music, and the only thing that happens is the Zune goes from song to song to song endlessly until it goes through the entire library and shuts off, never playing any of them. Me and my friend both have delete everything off the zune and re sync which will take hours. My friends 80gig took 14hours to re sync and re license every song. So yea, thats what $15 a month gets you. 
3.The Zune software is a resource hog, and very clunky. 
4.My Zune will randomly restart which automatically puts the volume down to 9, and if I am in the middle of a podcast, will not save my spot which forces me to try and find it myself. 
 
I really liked the Zune when it first came out and when I saw the Zune HD my initial thought was "Awesome, I want that" but then i quickly changed my mind. The main issue is why would I get a Zune HD????? It takes 4 hours to sync one sub standard definition movie I cant imagine how long an HD one would take. Oh and battery life on video is awful, maybe 2hrs.

if you get a zune everyone will think your cool

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I've had a Zune since the originals and I've loved them. Haven't picked up an HD yet because I don't have the cash, but the Zune interface is slick and easy to use. The PC software is nice as well. 
One thing you CANNOT overlook, but many sites do when comparing the 2 is that the Zune has the Zune Pass. For $15 a month you can download AS MANY CDs as you want which stay valid for as long as you have a subscription and you can download 10 songs that are permanently yours every month. So, if you do that in Itunes pricing, you are buying 10 songs every month and getting unlimited access to their entire catalog for just $5 a month, that's a steal. 
Plus, the HD is just a sexier device... you know it. The HD looks like a man's player, the Ipods and Iphones both look like something my girlfriend would find cute in her purse.

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I disagree with you on your claim that the iPhone and the iPod touch look feminine in any way, shape, or form. Physically both devices are superior. The iPod Touch is thinner than the Zune HD and has a 3.5 inch screen opposed to the 3.2 inch screen that the Zune HD has. "