Answer to gay marriage debate

Post by iAmJohn (1,461 posts) See mini bio

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@Sushbag said:

"since marriage has so many religious implications (traditionally, obviously not with gay marriage) I probably won't ever consider it as an option for myself."

What? Marriage has always been a legal institution first and foremost. The reason marriages even started was so families could come together and share their wealths with each other and pass it on to future generations. That's why there's legal benefits to being married in modern society.

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Post by CL60 (5,738 posts) See mini bio

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Who the fuck cares? Seriously...why the hell do people even care.

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Post by Relys (574 posts) See mini bio

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Marriage is very much tied to religion.

I don't see why they keep bitching about it.

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Post by Branthog (630 posts) See mini bio

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You can't change the mind of an ignorant bigot, so why even bring the topic up? If you don't like the idea of gay marriage, just don't marry someone of the same sex and you'll be okay. Who the hell is anyone to tell anyone else what they can or can not do, consensually? And if that's okay, then why don't I get to dictate who does and doesn't have children since my tax dollars are spent on them?

Also, marriage is not a religious thing. It is considered a business contract by the state. In fact, the same guy who notarizes incorporation of businesses notarizes incorporation of persons. If you get married for religious purposes, that is YOUR business. There is more to the world than religion and certainly more to it than YOUR particular religion. So how about we all just STFU and go about our own lives and leave other people alone?

Moreover, who the fuck needs this on a videogame site? Jesus fucking christ. Hey, let's bring up abortion and the death penalty next.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by iAmJohn (1,461 posts) See mini bio

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@Branthog said:

"Hey, let's bring up abortion and the death penalty next. "

I guess you missed Smugdarkloser's thread about sex changes and transgenders. :P

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

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@iAmJohn said:

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@Branthog said:
"Hey, let's bring up abortion and the death penalty next. "
I guess you missed Smugdarkloser's thread about sex changes and transgenders. :P "

please tell me that isnt a real thread

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Diamond (4,811 posts) See mini bio

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I'm gonna keep it real simple : If it doesn't hurt anyone, why do you care? It shouldn't matter that a gay couple can have the same rights of visitation and insurance coverage as a straight couple. Beastiality hurts animals who cannot consent. Gay marriage hurts no one.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Ahmad_Metallic (2,496 posts) See mini bio

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yeah why does everybody have a stick up their shiz hole debating and discussing other people's business like... speech worms?

who gives a fuck really let the butt buddies have their butt-related activities and get married and cross their meat swords and who gives a damn stop fucking around with other people's business

the thread is long i didnt read it im enjoying some lemonade i just assume the OP is asking us whether homo marriage is ok or not. assumptions make me happi .

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Akeldama (1,980 posts) See mini bio

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@Brendan said:

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@RsistncE said:

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This. "

yes. This.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Death_Unicorn (1,033 posts) See mini bio

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Who cares?
Two gay people getting married does not affect you in any way. The world won't explode because two gay people got married, and they most certainly won't come to your house and rape you.
People who don't want to see gay people have the right to get married just lovvvve to get into other people's business.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by NickL (375 posts) See mini bio

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i dont get the concept of "traditional" marriage

if it truly is a traditional marriage, then i am just auctioning my daughter off to the wealthiest family that will take her...

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Sushbag (186 posts) See mini bio

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@Death_Unicorn said:

People who don't want to see gay people have the right to get married just lovvvve to get into other people's business.

Yup. Which is why I say not only should gay people get married, but they and any other group who feels jealous of not being able to use certain terms for their relationships should have full access to the word "marriage."

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Post by Death_Unicorn (1,033 posts) See mini bio

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@Sushbag: Well, I guess, I wasn't referring to you, Ha! :P My mistake =)

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Shadow2K6 (220 posts) See mini bio

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@Relys said:

" Marriage is very much tied to religion.I don't see why they keep bitching about it. "

Hardly. Maybe in the bible belt were tolerance is at 0% but everywhere else marriage has very little to do with religion if anything at all.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Tarsier (1,348 posts) See mini bio

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i don't think you guys understand what marriage is. it is between a man and a woman and it has always been that way. it is also a religious ceremony and when you are forcing a church to marry two men or two women together you are forcing them to go against their own beliefs which is wrong.

the simple solution is to give them "equal rights" because that's what it's all about right? and let them have the same benefits of marriage, but let it not take place at a church.

this solution should satisfy everyone and if it does not satisfy you then you are clearly not fighting for the gays, you are fighting against religion.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Agnogenic (1,054 posts) See mini bio

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No one forces a pastor or church to marry anyone. Honestly, even if I was gay (I'm SO not), I wouldn't want to be, so called, "married". I would rather have it called a civil union because it makes more sense.

The first defintion of marriage is as followed... "the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. "

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Lustreplush (33 posts) See mini bio

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Straight guys don't want homosexual marriage legalized because right now, if they cheat on their wives with other guys it "doesn't count."

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by JeffGoldblum (1,529 posts) See mini bio

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This does not even belong in the off topic forum it belongs on a different site!

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Post by Branthog (630 posts) See mini bio

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@iAmJohn said:

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@Branthog said:
"Hey, let's bring up abortion and the death penalty next. "
I guess you missed Smugdarkloser's thread about sex changes and transgenders. :P "

No, but now that you've mentioned it I've bookmarked it. I might need some wanking-material before I go to bed! :)

Seriously though, whatever someone's view of various activities and proclivities and regardless of whether they feel they are natural or a choice or whether they are tolerated in an individuals' religion. None of that really matters. The majority of us live in countries that do place a great deal of value on the liberties and freedom of the individual and that should trump any personal bigotry. Nobody has to like what other consenting and willing people do in life, but they should have no ability to stop it. This extents to sex, partners, orientation, videogames, movies, books, music, hobbies, fetishes, professions. Everything.

Besides, life is WAY TOO SHORT to waste it making other people's lives miserable.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by KaosAngel (2,653 posts) See mini bio

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I don't see what the problem is. As long as they're having butt secks in private and not teaching kids about it, I don't mind.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by moopymoogle (3 posts) See mini bio

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Suchbag = Douchebag. If you're not gay what the hell does it have to do with you and why do you care so much? You can't even use some bullshit argument about believing in the sanctity of marriage because you just said you aren't religious. To atheistic people such as you and me marriage is about expresing love for another person. Your association of love and reproduction is total bullshit. Nobody in the world understands what love is.

And the point of marriage between two gay people is the same as the point of marriage between a man and a woman. If you youself decide to get married why would you do it? You have just said that you aren't religious so what reason would you have to get married? Gay people deserve to be treated the exac same way as straight people. Why try to set society back with your bigoted (and frankly very poorly constructed) arguments.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by MattyFTM (6,736 posts) See mini bio

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OR we could just shoot anyone ignorant enough to be against gay marriage!!!!

OK, maybe not shoot. Feed them to sharks? Drop a piano on them from a great height? Have a marching band trample over them?

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Tarsier said:

" i don't think you guys understand what marriage is. it is between a man and a woman and it has always been that way. it is also a religious ceremony and when you are forcing a church to marry two men or two women together you are forcing them to go against their own beliefs which is wrong.
the simple solution is to give them "equal rights" because that's what it's all about right? and let them have the same benefits of marriage, but let it not take place at a church.

this solution should satisfy everyone and if it does not satisfy you then you are clearly not fighting for the gays, you are fighting against religion.
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marriage has been around long before religion was established...

and besides, with that logic, how are two atheist couples supposed to get married? Just not at all?

that makes no sense at all.

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by Lustreplush (33 posts) See mini bio

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@JeffGoldblum said:

" This does not even belong in the off topic forum it belongs on a different site! "

I agree. No one ever gets their mind changed in these discussions. It usually just ends in a flame war. (No pun intended.)

Posted 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Post by cspiffo (536 posts) See mini bio

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I personally don't get the point of gay marriage either. Marriage is more of a contract with the state that you are uniting with a partner in the eventuality that kids may get involved some day. Other than that marriage is useless to anyone else. Why for the life of me anyone who does not plan to have children or who can't have children would choose to bind themselves in that contractual nonsense is beyond me.

I'm not against gays, btw.

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@JeffGoldblum said:

" This does not even belong in the off topic forum it belongs on a different site! "

Thats a good point...I mean this is a gaming site and why would you even bring up a topic like this. I mean who cares! If you all for it, then good for you. If not then whatever. But all you doing, when you start a topic like this and start shit. You get someone who is just a racist and wants to say dumb shit. or you get somone who doesn't know what the hell there talking about makes an ass outta himself.

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Post by Tarsier (1,348 posts) See mini bio

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@Gunner said:

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@Tarsier said:
" i don't think you guys understand what marriage is. it is between a man and a woman and it has always been that way. it is also a religious ceremony and when you are forcing a church to marry two men or two women together you are forcing them to go against their own beliefs which is wrong.
the simple solution is to give them "equal rights" because that's what it's all about right? and let them have the same benefits of marriage, but let it not take place at a church.

this solution should satisfy everyone and if it does not satisfy you then you are clearly not fighting for the gays, you are fighting against religion.
"
marriage has been around long before religion was established...and besides, with that logic, how are two atheist couples supposed to get married? Just not at all? that makes no sense at all. "

that's a completely different matter.

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Post by Gunner (2,855 posts) See mini bio

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@Tarsier said:

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@Gunner said:
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@Tarsier said:
" i don't think you guys understand what marriage is. it is between a man and a woman and it has always been that way. it is also a religious ceremony and when you are forcing a church to marry two men or two women together you are forcing them to go against their own beliefs which is wrong.
the simple solution is to give them "equal rights" because that's what it's all about right? and let them have the same benefits of marriage, but let it not take place at a church.

this solution should satisfy everyone and if it does not satisfy you then you are clearly not fighting for the gays, you are fighting against religion.
"
marriage has been around long before religion was established...and besides, with that logic, how are two atheist couples supposed to get married? Just not at all? that makes no sense at all. "
that's a completely different matter. "

Not really, there are such things as gay atheists, most actually are atheist because of the churches views towards them. Marriage is a bond between two people that love each other, regardless of race, sexual orientation, religion or political view.

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Post by Tarsier (1,348 posts) See mini bio

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@Gunner said:

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@Tarsier said:
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@Gunner said:
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@Tarsier said:
" i don't think you guys understand what marriage is. it is between a man and a woman and it has always been that way. it is also a religious ceremony and when you are forcing a church to marry two men or two women together you are forcing them to go against their own beliefs which is wrong.
the simple solution is to give them "equal rights" because that's what it's all about right? and let them have the same benefits of marriage, but let it not take place at a church.

this solution should satisfy everyone and if it does not satisfy you then you are clearly not fighting for the gays, you are fighting against religion.
"
marriage has been around long before religion was established...and besides, with that logic, how are two atheist couples supposed to get married? Just not at all? that makes no sense at all. "
that's a completely different matter. "
Not really, there are such things as gay atheists, most actually are atheist because of the churches views towards them. Marriage is a bond between two people that love each other, regardless of race, sexual orientation, religion or political view. "

whatever dood. gay marriage is wrong. =p

Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

Post by HatKing (515 posts) See mini bio

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Not sure why I even clicked the link when I knew, I KNEW, all I'd find was mostly idiots raving about stuff they do not understand.

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