Offended at being told I will go to hell.

Topic started by animegreen on July 2, 2009. Last post by Gamer_152 1 month, 3 weeks ago.
Post by animegreen (63 posts) See mini bio

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I am an atheist and I know that Christians think I am going to hell. I also am told that if I don't believe in god then I will go to hell. This is very offensive; because I am 100% sure hell doesn't exist and when I die I don't want people thinking i am going to hell. lol.

My proof for knowing that hell doesn't exist is I am told that "it is a place your soul goes when you die".. but there is no soul. Because when you lose the Insular Cortex part of the brain you lose all consciousness... and when you die your brain dies. This also proves there is no heaven. (defined by: A place your soul goes for eternity that is with god.)

How can you go to hell if you have no soul? When you die nothing happens. Doesn't sound that bad to me.

Any proof for souls? Reply if you think their is a soul.

P.S. I have no problem with religion; It is kind of entertaining.  I just have a problem at being insulted and told I will go to hell when people try and prove to me god exists.

P.P.S. Excuse my grammar and spelling English is my second language.


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You believe what you believe and no one can stop it.


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Solution: Tell these people to go fuck themselves. Seriously. They should be minding their own business.


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@MB said:
" Solution: Tell these people to go fuck themselves. Seriously. They should be minding their own business. "
Better yet, how about trying to ignore that shit?


Post by AngeTheDude (187 posts) See mini bio
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I used to be religious but I'm not any more. I believe in the soul, not as an actual thing, but as a concept if that makes any sense. 


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Bravo Seconded


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People believe what they want to believe. I wouldn't worry about being told you'll go to hell, just brush it off. I would worry if you were a part of the abomination crowd, then there should be general concern.


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I am agnostic, I belive that you have the right to do whatever the hell you want to do as long as that does not infrindge on anyone else's Rights,

To bad that it is an Impossible dream.


Post by Stang (2,243 posts) See mini bio
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@animegreen said:
Any proof for souls?
Therein lies the problem, this is a circular debate that ends straight in the middle of no fucking where. Arguing the existence of God, afterlife, the concept of the soul...it is all bullshit. Believe in what you want to believe, but keep it to yourself....unless you like to stir the pot up (like me :P ).

Feel free to tell those persistent Jehovah's witnesses to fuck off though, they just don't quit.


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You're kind of self centered thinking that people actually spend time thinking about your future and beliefs.... nobody actually cares what you believe in or not...



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Tell them to mind their own fucking bussines.


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If they are telling you that you are going somewhere that you don't believe in, then you are either unsure of what you truly believe in or you let things affect you when they really shouldn't. 


Post by auspiciousqueue (953 posts) See mini bio

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I believe there is a soul, but I know physiologically the evidence you give is valid and reasonable. I just cope with my own death by believing that I am part of a bigger picture. But I believe you should live your life the way you want. Whatever makes you happy and doesn't hurt others. 


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I find it funny that an atheist can be so easily offended.


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I would never tell someone that they are going to hell just because they don't believe in religion. It's your choice and I respect that. People can just be assholes.



Post by animegreen (63 posts) See mini bio

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@kmdrkul said:
" If they are telling you that you are going somewhere that you don't believe in, then you are either unsure of what you truly believe in or you let things affect you when they really shouldn't.  "
No, its more like I am offended  by how religious people(christians, pastafarians and muslims) walk around with a false sense of duty trying to "save" me. I am confident in my disbelief.


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@animegreen said:
" I also am told that if I don't believe in god then I will go to hell. This is very offensive; because I am 100% sure hell doesn't exist and when I die I don't want people thinking i am going to hell.
This statement makes no sense. You don't believe you are going to hell and therefor you are offended by the accusation that you are going to hell.


Post by TheFrostedGamer (96 posts) See mini bio

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You will go to Hell? Look at what humans have done to Earth and the rest of the animal kingdom. If Hell existed, you're already there. No no no..there's no "going" to hell. In fact, if you go back far enough, the bible in earlier languages before being translated to english, you'll find that "hell" was actually a concept, a state of mind, not a place. Anyway - someone telling you that you're going to hell is about as offensive as them saying the easter bunny is going to ride a chariot of fire into your bedroom tonight. What you need to do is, the next time someone tells you that, ask them to explain why God doesn't heal amputees. Or why mentally handicap people deserve to be born that way. Or why the old testament says disobidient children should be stoned to death. Or why people who work on Sunday should be stoned to death. That''ll give them enough to digest. Enjoy :)


Post by animegreen (63 posts) See mini bio

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@TheFrostedGamer said:
" someone telling you that you're going to hell is about as offensive as them saying the easter bunny is going to ride a chariot of fire into your bedroom tonight. "
I loled. Great analogy!


Post by animegreen (63 posts) See mini bio

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@Weltal said:
" @animegreen said:
" I also am told that if I don't believe in god then I will go to hell. This is very offensive; because I am 100% sure hell doesn't exist and when I die I don't want people thinking i am going to hell.
This statement makes no sense. You don't believe you are going to hell and therefor you are offended by the accusation that you are going to hell. "
I am offended that someone would believe that a murderer, rapist, or thief who has said they are sorry for their crimes would get into Heaven, whilst a person who has done nothing but think would go to Hell.


Post by Stang (2,243 posts) See mini bio
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@animegreen said:
" My proof for knowing that hell doesn't exist is I am told that "it is a place your soul goes when you die".. but there is no soul. Because when you lose the Insular Cortex part of the brain you lose all consciousness... and when you die your brain dies. This also proves there is no heaven. (defined by: A place your soul goes for eternity that is with god.) "
And by the way this is not proof. This is opinion. I know the internet is a magical place, but get this....your opinion is just as valid as other people's. Holy shit, that is insane!

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.


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@animegreen said:
" @kmdrkul said:
" If they are telling you that you are going somewhere that you don't believe in, then you are either unsure of what you truly believe in or you let things affect you when they really shouldn't.  "
No, its more like I am offended  by how religious people(christians, pastafarians and muslims) walk around with a false sense of duty trying to "save" me. I am confident in my disbelief. "
Again; they are confident on what they believe in.  You claim to be so confident in yours; smile, nod your head, move on.  You'll accomplish nothing by trying to argue your beliefs with them just as you are accomplishing nothing here by trying to justify your beliefs with us.  We all get it, you believe in what you do. 


Post by animegreen (63 posts) See mini bio

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@Stang said:
" @animegreen said:
" My proof for knowing that hell doesn't exist is I am told that "it is a place your soul goes when you die".. but there is no soul. Because when you lose the Insular Cortex part of the brain you lose all consciousness... and when you die your brain dies. This also proves there is no heaven. (defined by: A place your soul goes for eternity that is with god.) "
And by the way this is not proof. This is opinion. I know the internet is a magical place, but get this....your opinion is just as valid as other people's. Holy shit, that is insane!Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. "
Opinions are common, yes. But some are valid and others are not. There is no evidence whatsoever that a soul exists... but there is mounds of evidence that a soul does not exist.


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Just say

"isnt that something that your god is supposed to decide?"

and then walk away.


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@animegreen said:
"I am offended that someone would believe that a murderer, rapist, or thief who has said they are sorry for their crimes would get into Heaven, whilst a person who has done nothing but think would go to Hell. "
So, what you are really trying to say is you are offended by religion, not claims made against you.


Post by DanielJW (1,688 posts) See mini bio
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Why can't people just brush it off? All these comments about trying to get back at them by starting an argument just seem childish. Like Stang said, sure stirring the pot can be fun sometimes, but if somebody comes at me trying to shove beliefs down my throat I just ignore them. How does arguing their faith make you any better than they are? 

I'm an athiest simply for the reason that I don't believe in what can't be proved, or at least rationally backed up, so if there was hard evidence god existed I'd be on board. Anyways I'm at peace with my beliefs, why would I want to go argue with someone about it when neither side is going to be convinced? Just seems like a big childish cycle of "holier than thou" attitudes.


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@MB: this 


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@Red12b said:
" I am agnostic, I belive that you have the right to do whatever the hell you want to do as long as that does not infrindge on anyone else's Rights, To bad that it is an Impossible dream. "
This, and

@DanielJW said:
" Why can't people just brush it off? All these comments about trying to get back at them by starting an argument just seem childish. Like Stang said, sure stirring the pot can be fun sometimes, but if somebody comes at me trying to shove beliefs down my throat I just ignore them. How does arguing their faith make you any better than they are? 

I'm an athiest simply for the reason that I don't believe in what can't be proved, or at least rationally backed up, so if there was hard evidence god existed I'd be on board. Anyways I'm at peace with my beliefs, why would I want to go argue with someone about it when neither side is going to be convinced? Just seems like a big childish cycle of "holier than thou" attitudes.
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That

I will check this thread again in the morning, hopefully some religious devotees start posting and make this thread interesting. This thread is still far too civil, more shenanigans are needed! :evil:



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I find it hilariously ironic that most Atheists take Atheism to religious extremes.


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,585 posts) See mini bio

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Quit being a prissy baby and stop caring what people say. You have the power to take offense to things, and you give yourself that power. You don't need to.